Sold!...

vkid

Opera Site has been sold...to the city council..with the help of Noonan?

what will happen it now?

http://examiner.ie/ireland/noonan-plays-key-role-in-councils-12m-property-deal-174392.html

Amazotheamazing

I genuinely dread to think what the council will do with that site.

vkid

Personally I would love to see one of the colleges invest in the city centre. UL are building all the time in Plassey...would be nice to see some interaction with the city and would bring students into city life a bit more.

Sabre0001

Unless the bus service is going to be improved, having any classes in the city would be a nightmare!

highlydebased

vkid wrote: »

Personally I would love to see one of the colleges invest in the city centre. UL are building all the time in Plassey...would be nice to see some interaction with the city and would bring students into city life a bit more.

A nice idea in theory, but in practice I doubt it will ever happen realistically.

Berty

Wasn't the invitation to UL and LIT not for Student Accommodation instead of Lecture Space/Lab space etc?

I suggest the planners go Visit the Victoria Centre in Belfast and come back with that idea.

http://www.victoriasquare.com/

Cinema, Restaurants, Shopping, Parking, Accommodation, Open Air(ish) and just a nice place to be.

Dare I say a M&S Store even.

Then again as the LCC have bought it lets not hope for very much.

munstergirl

I don't see the council having any money to do anything major on this site, maybe refurbish it a bit.

Scary same council that can't take down a christmas tree after christmas or decide on a bus lane are in charge of this.

Is this is why they are fighting parkway valley so much?

Don't like the way they bought it without having a plan, just because they didn't want some developer buying it.

Oh well let the planning begin, again

Icky Thump

they will surely knock it and use it as a carpark now until a new buyer comes along. wherent they already responsible if any accidents occured on the site??

to be honest ill be happy as long as they knock they dreadful site. i could say a billion different things id like to see happen that would improve the city but to be realistic i doubt the lcc have the cash or ambition to invest heavily.

if a complex is to be built there in the fuure i hope they start by putting in underground parking to start showing how effective it would be in limerick. maybe it would start a trend for future projects. hopefully developers will look at the long term and not making a quick buck

flutered

how long will it take them to fcuk it up, with all the bitching and oneupmanship going on, the only chance is give dennis brosnan free rein with it, or mabe jp mcmanus, a buisness man is required to manage it, if a buisness man got the running of it would the corpo put too many bananna skins in his/her way.

jmch81

flutered wrote: »

how long will it take them to fcuk it up, with all the bitching and oneupmanship going on, the only chance is give dennis brosnan free rein with it, or mabe jp mcmanus, a buisness man is required to manage it, if a buisness man got the running of it would the corpo put too many bananna skins in his/her way.

Could we get a business person of that quality to run for city mayor when the position is made directly elected? Don't think any of the current politicians will do us any good if elected to the role.

iguana

munstergirl wrote: »

Scary same council that can't take down a christmas tree after christmas or decide on a bus lane are in charge of this.

God! I was worried about what they would do before you reminded me of the farce that is the christmas tree brilliant year round celebratory water feature worth at least €10m to the city.:eek:

Poxyshamrock

It's going to be developed by Limerick Regeneration Agency! :O

Watergate flats take 2?

Oh god....

Aidric

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

It's going to be developed by Limerick Regeneration Agency! :O

Watergate flats take 2?

Oh god....

..and so the ghettoisation of Limerick city center continues apace. This is quite a sad development, truth be told.

pigtown

Well at least now the council has a site for the new library and museum it has been talking about. It may not be a shopping centre but I always thought that it was ill suited to that site anyway.

millold

Now that both library's at ul and lit have been shelved,great opportunity to build an iconic building housing a world class library,bring in 10000 students in to the city.

Jagle

millold wrote: »

Now that both library's at ul and lit have been shelved,great opportunity to build an iconic building housing a world class library,bring in 10000 students in to the city.

if i have to drive into the city just to get a book out that i need for my study's ill kill everyone

liammur

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

It's going to be developed by Limerick Regeneration Agency! :O

Watergate flats take 2?

Oh god....

Probably not good enough for regeneration purposes.
Seems nobody in Limerick counts apart from the regeneration. Great country we live in.

pigtown

millold wrote: »

Now that both library's at ul and lit have been shelved,great opportunity to build an iconic building housing a world class library,bring in 10000 students in to the city.

You know the more I think about it the more I see how this could be a very good plan. The four biggest libraries in Limerick; UL, Mary I, LIT and the City Library all need to either extend substantially or be rebuilt altogether. Surely a huge state of the art library built somewhere in the city incorporating all four libraries would make more sense?
It would also be of great benefit to the many other 3rd level colleges in Limerick that dont have the numbers to justify an extensive library, and also the secondary schools in the city.

Jagle wrote: »

if i have to drive into the city just to get a book out that i need for my study's ill kill everyone

Maybe the existing libraries could operate as satellite services where you could order a book and it would be delivered in so many hours?

flutered

Maybe the existing libraries could operate as satellite services where you could order a book and it would be delivered in so many hours?[/QUOTE]

logistically impossible, the only way this is feasible is electronically.

Jagle

pigtown wrote: »

Maybe the existing libraries could operate as satellite services where you could order a book and it would be delivered in so many hours?

again, i have assignments due and work to do, i dont wanna waste time, or days as they move books around, the library is hard enough to get the book you want without moving loads to town.

how about people who have never been in a library as a student, and havent had to deal with books not being where they are ment to be, idiots on facebook all day not have any input here, because ye just dont know how crap the system is, without splitting it between the plassey campus and town.

terrible idea

pigtown

Jagle wrote: »

again, i have assignments due and work to do, i dont wanna waste time, or days as they move books around, the library is hard enough to get the book you want without moving loads to town.

how about people who have never been in a library as a student, and havent had to deal with books not being where they are ment to be, idiots on facebook all day not have any input here, because ye just dont know how crap the system is, without splitting it between the plassey campus and town.

terrible idea

I have spent days in the library in UL doing assignments and projects and know very well all of the issues that exist there;

• 'laptop enabled' desks that dont have power or reliable internet connections
• extremely limited number of workspaces
• limited number and range of books
• no conveniently located cafe at night/weekends

Today, while doing some research for my thesis, I walked from the carpark on the north campus in the rain, struggled to find a desk with a working power outlet, scanned the few books that actually relate to my course before losing patience with the tempermental broadband connection and coming home to work from here.

Despite what it may look like, I'm not actually complaining. I don't expect the best of facilities for everything. I'm just suggesting that a state of the art library in the city that addressed these issues for all of the libraries in Limerick would be a good thing.

zuroph

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

It's going to be developed by Limerick Regeneration Agency! :O

Watergate flats take 2?

Oh god....

Aidric wrote: »

..and so the ghettoisation of Limerick city center continues apace. This is quite a sad development, truth be told.

just because its regeneration doesnt mean flats, theres commercial regeneration also...

flutered

they have made a fair job of the regeneration of morroe kilteely and a few more fedamere and many more villages.

Kess73

zuroph wrote: »

just because its regeneration doesnt mean flats, theres commercial regeneration also...

Residential regeneration was mentioned with regards to the Opera site along with commercial regeneration by the Mayor on the radio.

Spook58

Mabye Herr Mayor could use the buildings as a holding centre before he deports all the foreigners that he's forever moaning about.

Limerick City Library

flutered wrote: »

Maybe the existing libraries could operate as satellite services where you could order a book and it would be delivered in so many hours?
logistically impossible, the only way this is feasible is electronically.

The main issue with the digital solution is the fact that over the last number of years the subscriptions charged for providing access to these journal articles have increased a great deal. More and more of an academic library's budget must go into maintaining access to these materials. You can read more about the problem here

Staplor

I think knock it and car park it, sell off chunks as they can.

Berty

Staplor wrote: »

I think knock it and car park it, sell off chunks as they can.

Nope. Only one person would win here. Council and car park fees and the Hunt Museum who have been campaigning for it to be a car park.

Anybody find it strange that the council begged JP and his chums to fix up the place and THEN they buy it. Chancers the lot of them.

Anyway. I don't agree that it should be turned into an area to pack in the regeneration housing folk. Commercial regeneration yes but not residential or at least just the 10% legal requirement(maybe more) that they must allocate.

Shops, Cinema, Foodhall, Parking, Apartments(they will be needed eventually so build them now).

And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not knock down the original city hall which is still on the site.

Grumpypants

A decent cinema, food hall and shops and a few front facing bars would be great. But it is such a difficult build that i can't see anything like that happening. There is about 6 listed buildings in there, even the front face of Quinns has to be taken down stone by stone and rebuilt a few feet back.

Even knocking it and turning it into a carpark would be hard as the listed buildings would need to be propped up which is why a big shopping center would be structurally better.

All the area in front of trinity rooms looking out onto the river is wasted, could be a lovely open area for christmas markets etc if the Opera centre was designed right.

betonit

Put lowry's vegas style casino there

BESman

Surprised Marks & Spencer hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet. Every local newspaper which asked the public what they would like to see put in the site had the same response - Marks & Spencer.

Seriously, what is the obsession?