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    #2762
    Fiona
    Registered Users Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Fiona


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    Proper grip when reversing, and that shouldn't happen! ;)

    Totally one must exercise caution at all times.


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    #2763
    EPM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    Proper grip when reversing, and that shouldn't happen! ;)

    Just when you think rlh can't possibly go lower, he does.



    :D


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    #2764
    challengemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    EPM wrote: »
    Just when you think rlh can't possibly go lower, he does.



    :D

    That's how he put his back out :pac:

    >_>

    <_<


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    #2765
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    EPM wrote: »
    Just when you think rlh can't possibly go lower, he does.


    :D
    How low does she want me to go? :cool:
    challengemaster wrote: »
    That's how he put his back out :pac:

    >_>

    <_<
    Absolutely no idea what you're on about!!! >_>

    By the way, speaking of rubber, did you ever tell the good people of Motors about your pyromaniac episodes?

    :P


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    #2766
    EPM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    How low does she want me to go? :cool:

    Keep your head above water...


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    #2767
    TestTransmission
    Registered Users Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    mrs crilly wrote: »
    Well now you learn something new everyday.

    No problem, it's a very common occurence within the BMW franchise :pac:


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    #2768
    Fiona
    Registered Users Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Fiona


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    How low does she want me to go? :cool
    :P

    Is that a question for me?


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    #2769
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    mrs crilly wrote: »
    Is that a question for me?
    Noooooo!!! :eek:

    Just a generic jokey "she", Mrs C, sorry about that! :o


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    #2770
    MugMugs
    Registered Users Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    mrs crilly wrote: »
    Is that a question for me?
    Noooooo!!! :eek:

    Just a generic jokey "she", Mrs C, sorry about that! :o

    Isn't Mrs C a bloke?


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    #2771
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Isn't Mrs C a bloke?
    If "she" is, I've just been neatly hooked!! :D


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    #2772
    Fiona
    Registered Users Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Fiona


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    Noooooo!!! :eek:

    Just a generic jokey "she", Mrs C, sorry about that! :o

    Shame I was going to answer with something to bring it down another level but the moment has passed!!
    MugMugs wrote: »
    Isn't Mrs C a bloke?

    Well I can be but it have to strap it on. It's a bit awkward to be honest.


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    #2773
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Isn't Mrs C a bloke?

    She certainly isn't a bloke, even though she's a bmw fanboi :)

    /M


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    #2774
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    mrs crilly wrote: »
    Shame I was going to answer with something to bring it down another level but the moment has passed!!
    That moment never passes! ;)
    mrs crilly wrote: »
    Well I can be but it have to strap it on. It's a bit awkward to be honest.
    Yeah, actually, challengemaster was saying the same to us at the weekend.


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    #2775
    Fiona
    Registered Users Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Fiona


    OSI wrote: »
    Is it a BMW to?

    No it's not but I can give you some rear action with it if thats what you want, whatever floats your boat.
    randylonghorn wrote: »
    That moment never passes! ;)

    Nah it's gone mate..... until the next post :p


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    #2776
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    I've just heard an interesting rumour about SAAB from a well connected source


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    #2777
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    I've just heard an interesting rumour about SAAB from a well connected source

    Someone bought one of their cars new this year?:P


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    #2778
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    Someone bought one of their cars new this year?:P

    No but if it's true it could be a case of history repeating itself and they both have common beginnings which they acknowledge to this day


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    #2779
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    No but if it's true it could be a case of history repeating itself

    They're gone bust again :)

    /M


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    #2780
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Marlow wrote: »
    They're gone bust again :)
    No but it could lead one interested party to the brink again.....for the second time


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    #2781
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    No but it could lead one interested party to the brink again.....for the second time

    At the moment it just looks like Saab is consuming automotive companies instead of creating/manufacturing cars. I think it would be mad flogging a dead horse.

    It's similar enough to the whole Anglo Irish/Nama issue. Nama was created to take the bad debt, especially Anglo Irish bad debt. In the end Anglo Irish is going down the drain anyhow, so it was all wasted tax payers money.

    Here it's just a private enterprise chewing up automotive industry money for no purpose. There's been no interesting Saabs since the old style Saab 900. Nothing with identity anyhow. GM made sure of that.

    /M


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    #2782
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    No but it could lead one interested party to the brink again.....for the second time


    I read something about Lotus making a bid(or the people who own Lotus anyway). Is that it?


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    #2783
    Tea 1000
    Registered Users Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    Marlow wrote: »
    At the moment it just looks like Saab is consuming automotive companies instead of creating/manufacturing cars. I think it would be mad flogging a dead horse.

    It's similar enough to the whole Anglo Irish/Nama issue. Nama was created to take the bad debt, especially Anglo Irish bad debt. In the end Anglo Irish is going down the drain anyhow, so it was all wasted tax payers money.

    Here it's just a private enterprise chewing up automotive industry money for no purpose. There's been no interesting Saabs since the old style Saab 900. Nothing with identity anyhow. GM made sure of that.

    /M
    I agree.
    If possible it'd be best to just buy the rights to the brand, then set up from scratch and hire back any of the decent guys, and start using proper bases for their cars. Not GM cast-off's or the like.


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    #2784
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    I read something about Lotus making a bid(or the people who own Lotus anyway). Is that it?
    No.

    Although I did read something about that too. As an aside a Chinese company have the rights to use LOTUS on their bland range of cars.

    No this rumour involves BMW in behind the scenes talks at a takeover which I'm told are going well. Nothing may come of it of course but it's reliable info.





    For those who don't know, SAAB and BMW started off making fighter planes. BMW were brought to the brink by taking over Rover in 1994.


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    #2785
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    No.

    Although I did read something about that too. As an aside a Chinese company have the rights to use LOTUS on their bland range of cars.

    No this rumour involves BMW in behind the scenes talks at a takeover which I'm told are going well. Nothing may come of it of course but it's reliable info.





    For those who don't know, SAAB and BMW started off making fighter planes. BMW were brought to the brink by taking over Rover in 1994.


    I thought of BMW when you said about the origins but I don't see the interest myself. I mean BMW as a brand are hugely successful these days, why would they need to own a semi high end brand like SAAB?


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    #2786
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    For those who don't know, SAAB and BMW started off making fighter planes. BMW were brought to the brink by taking over Rover in 1994.

    Well, Spyker (and Koenigsegg) were planning on using parts out of the BMW drivetrain for the new cars alright. So they were involved all along.

    I can't see, what BMW would want with Saab though. There's nothing new for them to be got.

    With Rover, that was different. They wanted the "mini" brand and they wanted some of the technologies out of the Range Rovers ("descent" etc.).

    So unless they're looking for production facilities in Sweden and access to Kiruna steel, I can't see the point.

    /M


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    #2787
    Tea 1000
    Registered Users Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    I thought of BMW when you said about the origins but I don't see the interest myself. I mean BMW as a brand are hugely successful these days, why would they need to own a semi high end brand like SAAB?
    VW are buying or trying to buy left, right and centre... seems to be the way to go!


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    #2788
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    For those who don't know, SAAB and BMW started off making fighter planes. BMW were brought to the brink by taking over Rover in 1994.

    [pedant] BMW made engines for fighters, not the fighters themselves [/pedant]


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    #2789
    MetzgerMeister
    Registered Users Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Marlow wrote: »
    Well, Spyker (and Koenigsegg) were planning on using parts out of the BMW drivetrain for the new cars alright. So they were involved all along.

    I can't see, what BMW would want with Saab though. There's nothing new for them to be got.

    With Rover, that was different. They wanted the "mini" brand and they wanted some of the technologies out of the Range Rovers ("descent" etc.).

    So unless they're looking for production facilities in Sweden and access to Kiruna steel, I can't see the point.

    /M

    Wasn't the BMW front wheel drive thing developed in conjunction with Saab?


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    #2790
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    MetzgerMeister wrote: »
    Wasn't the BMW front wheel drive thing developed in conjunction with Saab?

    The same BMW FWD concept that underpins the R75?


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    #2791
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    I thought of BMW when you said about the origins but I don't see the interest myself. I mean BMW as a brand are hugely successful these days, why would they need to own a semi high end brand like SAAB?

    As Marlow points out they were already going to share parts.

    the only two things I can see in it for them as another brand to insert between MINI and BMW, or even a budget brand of some kind. Also if they bought it then could just strip it and kill the brand..........removes the competition really


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