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Roto Spike Bale Unroller
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21-11-2011 11:54am#1
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lakill Farm wrote: »In the video, was that silage chopped? it didnt look like it was.
I wonder what it would be like with chopped silage?
Would you consider a bale chopper that cuts the bale in 2? there cheaper that €1,100
I dont have one but they look a handy tool
Bale in the video, certainly did not looked to have been chopped.
I do wonder, how a chopped bale would work. I'd be afraid, it would possible fall off in a heap, after the first roll of the spike
Thing is, my bales are not usually chopped, but to be honest, that tends to depend as much on how many cans of Bulmers the driver had previous night as on anything else:eek: You never know!0 -
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I finally made a worth while point
. who said farming is hard :rolleyes:.Atilathehun wrote: »Bale in the video, certainly did not looked to have been chopped.
I do wonder, how a chopped bale would work. I'd be afraid, it would possible fall off in a heap, after the first roll of the spike
Thing is, my bales are not usually chopped, but to be honest, that tends to depend as much on how many cans of Bulmers the driver had previous night as on anything else:eek: You never know!0 -
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what kind if set up do you have?,
do you have a loader, tractor with front end loader?
how wide is your pad?
there may be other options apart from £1000 on an implement that has only one use, a lot of the time these things work well until it's a wet bale or a bale out of shape
Two bay slatted house. 15 foot passage. No front loader. Bog standard tractor.
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If its cost that's bothering you, get yourself one of these:
Its a silage knife. I can split a bale with mine in 30 seconds. It cost about £20 25 years ago. I recently bought a new blade for mine costing €25.
Who needs a fancy bale splitter when you can DIY
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If its cost that's bothering you, get yourself one of these:
Its a silage knife. I can split a bale with mine in 30 seconds. It cost about £20 25 years ago. I recently bought a new blade for mine costing €25.
Who needs a fancy bale splitter when you can DIY
What age are you? Have you ever had back surgery? 0 -
Atilathehun wrote: »What age are you? Have you ever had back surgery?
I'm in my mid 30's. Why?
You never said that you had back surgery?? :rolleyes:
My old man is near 70, had several discs in his back repaired in th 80's and 90's. He's well able to use it. It saves him forking the silage from the bale which is hard on the back.
Doctors who perform back surgery recommend exercise. Otherwise your problems will only get worse. I've been to enough case conferences over the years!!0 -
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Atilathehun wrote: »Didn't mention surgery, BUT, I did say about my back!
You are now in your mid thirties, and you bought your silage knife 25 years ago. So you cashed in the auld communion money when you were 10, cycled into town, came home with a silage knife, and laid claim to the auld place:rolleyes:
There's no need to get snotty.
You were the one to mention back surgery:Originally Posted by Atilathehun
Have you ever had back surgery?
I did not say that I bought the silage knife. I said that I recently bought a blade for it - and so what if I went on my bike for it. Exercise is good for the back
You seem to be having a go just for the sake of it.
The silage knife that i pictured would save a great deal of effort and stress on your back. Split bales are much easier to fork out. It does the same job as any of the fancy Mchale splitters, but used the power of your foot and cost a fraction of them.0 -
There's no need to get snotty.
You were the one to mention back surgery:
I did not say that I bought the silage knife. I said that I recently bought a blade for it - and so what if I went on my bike for it. Exercise is good for the back
You seem to be having a go just for the sake of it.
The silage knife that i pictured would save a great deal of effort and stress on your back. Split bales are much easier to fork out. It does the same job as any of the fancy Mchale splitters, but used the power of your foot and cost a fraction of them.
Ok. Not wanting to have a go. Just thought I asked a concise question, and gave my reason for it, and so didn't see the point of your reply.
Anyway, I am the proud owner of one of those knives, and have given it plenty muscle over the years.
These days, I suffer a fair bit of back problems, and so was just asking about the effectiveness or otherwise of the Roto Spike in different conditions etc,. There can come a time when, you cannot do what you always used to do unfortunately.
PS: I also have a bike. Got it on the bike to work scheme. Only thing I ever got off the Greens, other than grief:cool:
Back pain or not I still get to use it a bit. However the exertion of the silage knife gives more of a drag to the back than the bike.0 -
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Atilathehun wrote: »Two bay slatted house. 15 foot passage. No front loader. Bog standard tractor.
what kind of tractor, how many bales do you use in a week,jeff greene wrote: »I think the OP wants to save his back;) For me, I'd look into putting a loader on the tractor, way more useful all round and will feed and push up bales easily.
+1, front end loader is a life saver, it's one of those things that until you get it you don't know how useful it is, we got ours 2yr ago and wouldn't be without it now, if your going to spend 1000 you wouldn't need much more to buy and fit a loader,
what with you having a 15ft pad your set to make the most use of a loader, our pad's are 10ft and 12 ft wide, 2ft is a big difference,
a lot of people are going to disagree with me but i find that if i put the bale to the cows head they eat the same amount as if i were to grape it in, i actually think they eat less if they never run out of silage and it's there 24hr 6.5day, (need half a day to tighten them up to eat it all,)
the way we work is, we have a bale spike on the front end with 3 tines (the heavy one's off a stone rake), they are about 18" apart and we use it like a buckrake,
have often thought of modifying a buckrake but i dont think the tines would be strong enough, also the way we open the bales wouldn't suit,
when were taking the wrap off, we set the bale down like the way they come out of the baler and have the spike driven in at the bottom of the flat side and the bale held up with the loader, then cut the other flat face off the bale, run the knife up the two sides of the bale and pull the plastic back over the loader, then this leaves only the net on the bale, we just find the end of it and unroll it off the bale, with the plastic pull back out of the way if any silage falls off it doesn't trap any of the plastic,
we then drive them in 3/4 of the way up the bale on the flat side again and lift, the bale should split, then set it down on top of it's self then drive the spike in half way down and lift half the bale again, we then take that half and set it in front of another pen, it sounds messy but when you get used to it it's not messy at all,0 -
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why do you have to drag it out,can you not just put in a bale infront of each pen and push in with tractor every day ,i feed all mine like that dont need anything fancey or a sprong.
+1 to this. When cattle are in a slatted shed they dont need to all feed at the same time. So just open the bale and land it in front of them in one piece. They will all get their share during the day with out the backache of piking silage. Really thought piking silage (especially bale silage) was a thing of the past. Pulling silage from a bale with a pike is probably one of the worst things you could do for your back. As well as not having to pike out the silage, it wont go off as fast if it left as a full bale.
Ps . . . only use a pike, shovel etc when absolutely necessary and to lean on!! Otherwise leave it by the wall! 0 -
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I have a two bay shed with and open front. I just reverse in a bale to the centre pillar,, couple of forks left, couple of forks right.. and then leave them at it.. It saves the cows pucking each other. After a while they all take their fill.
Shove it in with the tractor when they eat it way from the front.I like machines and innovation, but no need to automate this.
I use one bale at atime as they don't eat 'hayledge' too quickly.+1 to this. When cattle are in a slatted shed they dont need to all feed at the same time. So just open the bale and land it in front of them in one piece. They will all get their share during the day with out the backache of piking silage. Really thought piking silage (especially bale silage) was a thing of the past. Pulling silage from a bale with a pike is probably one of the worst things you could do for your back. As well as not having to pike out the silage, it wont go off as fast if it left as a full bale.
Ps . . . only use a pike, shovel etc when absolutely necessary and to lean on!! Otherwise leave it by the wall!0 -
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My old man is near 70, had several discs in his back repaired in th 80's and 90's. He's well able to use it. It saves him forking the silage from the bale which is hard on the back.
So are you telling us that your father, who's near 70 and has had back problems, can climb up on a bale, balance on one foot in wellies while hopping up and down on a silage knife????? ..... :eek:
When's the next circus coming to leitrim?! People pay good money you know to see acrobatics like that!
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So are you telling us that your father, who's near 70 and has had back problems, can climb up on a bale, balance on one foot in wellies while hopping up and down on a silage knife????? ..... :eek:
When's the next circus coming to leitrim?! People pay good money you know to see acrobatics like that!
What's to stop my father from climbing on bales and splitting them? Just because he's near 70 and has had back problems in the past, doesn't mean that he's in a wheelchair. He had 3 discs rebuilt in his back. 2 in 1985 and 1 in 1990. He also had a disc removed in 1990. Exercise and light work is why he has overcome his back problems and isn't a cripple today!! Dad can back in a bale with the spike, pull out half way, and use the spike to bridge the height and can split bales at ease. Attillathehun's doctors too will recommend that he gets exercise in order to improve his back.
Back problems aren't for life if you get them treated properly!!
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I think you know your own mind. This machine will solve alot of your bale handling problems Atilathehun and at sensible money.
Some lads might say sure just roll the bale out yourself, but you can't do that with your back.
You would have alot of forking also with the bale splitter option.
Feed them little and often with the rotospike. Don't pile in 2 or 3 days worth as it won't suit you to be forking.
Exactly my plan. It's probably just me, but opening a rake of bales at one time, and jamming up the passage with them, would drive me nuts. I like to open what can be eaten in two days max and preferrably one day. And with November temperatures up around 16 degrees, I think that's enough time to have silage open to atmosphere. Forking loose silage is no problem for me, and is nothing more than exercise. Trying to untangle the silage from the bale is a nightmare though.
But doctors differ and patients die. Seems on here that most lads, prefer to put a bale up to every pen, and let them at it.
I'll see how it goes, and report back in a few weeks, warts and all 0 -
Atilathehun wrote: »Exactly my plan. It's probably just me, but opening a rake of bales at one time, and jamming up the passage with them, would drive me nuts. I like to open what can be eaten in two days max and preferrably one day. And with November temperatures up around 16 degrees, I think that's enough time to have silage open to atmosphere. Forking loose silage is no problem for me, and is nothing more than exercise. Trying to untangle the silage from the bale is a nightmare though.
But doctors differ and patients die. Seems on here that most lads, prefer to put a bale up to every pen, and let them at it.
I'll see how it goes, and report back in a few weeks, warts and all
How many animals and what type would you have in a pen?
Or how long would you expect a bale to last 1 pen of animals?0 -
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I saw this advertised on the Journal this week. Company is Agri-Spread in Ballyhaunis Co Mayo.
http://www.agrispread.com/bale_feeder.html
Same video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq1GD4dYrV4
It looks the business only thing i think it needs a shoot like a tub/diet feeder.
Id imagine its crazy money though :eek:
Edit: just seen the quad x video seems a better one, one tractor is only needed.0 -
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