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Self Monitoring wiht a HKC Alarm

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    #32
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    KoolKid wrote: »
    Saying you only install one system & not giving the customer a choice is not the actions of a good installer IMO,

    I am sure there are many installers out there who use 1 system.
    That is entirely up to them. Not up to us to judge !

    www.altor.ie



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    #33
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    altor wrote: »
    I am sure there are many installers out there who use 1 system.

    There are plenty. I come across them at least one a week when pricing jobs. Not judging them at all. They make my job easier & busier.;)


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    #34
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thats good as it is not up to us to judge.

    www.altor.ie



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    #35
    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    Koolkid you do constantly make it out as though the siemens panel is better then the rest. Honestly when I go to a mates or family members house its either a HKC ,Aritech cs350 or simon panel they have installed because there easy to use and do exactly what an alarm should do. i.e contact them or a monitoring station when a sensor is tripped. Do you not think that by connecting panels to the web your asking for trouble?? :( and dont all those extra features make it harder for the user to use the panel


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    #36
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    It would seem your friends and family have fairly old alarms.
    It's good while since I installed a CS350, Simon is old as well. Even the HKC secure watch is a bit dated now.
    The Siemens panel has some good features over other panels in the same price range.
    Features don't mean more complicated to use. Today's DVD players are full of features compared to old VHS units. You remember how complicated they were to programme.
    As for web acceds , that is quickly becoming the norm.
    Ip monitoring where the connection can be polled every minute will be a very secure way to monitor. Years ago having home cameras with web access was rare. Now is the norm even for the most basic systems. Alarms will become the same.


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    #37
    Jnealon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Jnealon


    KoolKid wrote: »
    Customers deserve what they want not what the installer wants.
    Galaxy and ATS are great panel as well. Galaxy would be a bit OTT for some simple jobs, but if that's what the customer wants them that's what we are willing and able to install, maintain and support. Unlike the OPs builder I don't force systems on customers because I want to keep it simple.
    Should the customer not be allowed a choice in something that is protecting ,possibly their biggest possession?
    If not why not?

    Funny you should mention the galaxy, this in one of the panels that can send texts with on UPC but for the last 2 years you have taken the view that you can not send texts on UPC.


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    #38
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Im sure we cleared that up some time ago. Is there something in that relevant to this discussion?:confused:


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    #39
    Jnealon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Jnealon


    Not much point in offering all these panels to customers if you do not know them inside out.
    Back to the company only installing one panel and knowing it's every detail.
    I know what I'd prefer


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    #40
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Quite a desperate stretch .
    Strangly enough I have never had a customer who wanted a Galaxy installed who had UPC telephone line & wanted it to send texts.
    Just luckey I guess;)
    If I ever do come across one, (Which I doubt) can I refer them to you?


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    #41
    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    KoolKid wrote: »
    It would seem your friends and family have fairly old alarms.
    It's good while since I installed a CS350, Simon is old as well. Even the HKC secure watch is a bit dated now.
    The Siemens panel has some good features over other panels in the same price range.
    Features don't mean more complicated to use. Today's DVD players are full of features compared to old VHS units. You remember how complicated they were to programme.
    As for web acceds , that is quickly becoming the norm.
    Ip monitoring where the connection can be polled every minute will be a very secure way to monitor. Years ago having home cameras with web access was rare. Now is the norm even for the most basic systems. Alarms will become the same.

    They all work :D whats wrong with these panels?


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    #42
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    They work, but they are old thats all.
    Newer systems have newer features in the same price range thats all.
    If you were buying a new phone would you pay the same money for an old Nokia 6110 or a new Iphone or similar?
    They both work...


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    #43
    EvilMonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭EvilMonkey


    KoolKid wrote: »
    They work, but they are old thats all.
    Newer systems have newer features in the same price range thats all.
    If you were buying a new phone would you pay the same money for an old Nokia 6110 or a new Iphone or similar?
    They both work...

    If i only wanted a phone for calls and texts and bought an iphone i would be disappointed because with a Nokia it would have better battery life and more reliable call quality.


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    #44
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    So , lets say you were buying a new phone today & an iPhone,a Samsung Galaxy & a Nokia 6110 were on offer & they were all the same price.
    Which would you take?


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    #45
    EvilMonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭EvilMonkey


    KoolKid wrote: »
    So , lets say you were buying a new phone today & an iPhone,a Samsung Galaxy & a Nokia 6110 were on offer & they were all the same price.
    Which would you take?

    If i didn't want any of the features in a smart phone i would go with the one with the best battery life, call quality and my network supported. I haven't sat down and compared them so i cant really say!. :D


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    #46
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    So you would choose 10 year old technology over features etc.
    If thats your choice then a CS350 , HKC Securewatch or Simon Panel is for you. In my experience , when something is not more expensive, people choose newer & better features.


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