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Moses Ayanwole (41) Nigerian Taxi driver died after been beaten in his taxi today

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  • 24-11-2011 4:27am
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    samsham
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    Poor man, my heart goes out to his family, It's also so sad that he died on a week when racial differences were highlighted in the national news. Unfortunately the poor man was working in an industry full of danger. Perhaps its time to review Taxi safety. Also perhaps its time the seat was taking out of the front of taxis and the passengers caged in the back like we see in the UK and the US. If that's the way to prevent further deaths then it should be done. I wrote here just last week on assaults on African drivers in Waterford and what they saw as a lack of concern by local Garda. Well it seems this news is not going to give them any confidence that things will get any better.

    Anyway RIP Moses Ayanwole 41yo Dublin Taxi Driver


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    charlemont
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    RIP, Poor man only earning a crust and having to be subjected to an attack like that. Hope its a murder charge the culprit responsible gets.


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    wpearsons23
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    charlemont wrote: »
    RIP, Poor man only earning a crust and having to be subjected to an attack like that. Hope its a murder charge the culprit responsible gets.

    A murder charge? Why do you come to that suggestion? We know very very little about the details surrounding the incident. Step back and take a breath is what i'd say to you


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    stovelid
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    Horrible thing to happen over a taxi fare.
    wpearsons23 wrote: »
    A murder charge? Why do you come to that suggestion? We know very very little about the details surrounding the incident. Step back and take a breath is what i'd say to you

    If they are caught, it will unlikely to be a littering charge anyway.

    Hopefuly some light will be shed on the case sooner or later.


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    John Mason
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    samsham wrote: »
    he died on a week when racial differences were highlighted in the national news

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    I wrote here just last week on assaults on African drivers in Waterford and what they saw as a lack of concern by local Garda.

    Was it a racially motivated crime? I haven’t heard that said in the news?


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    chris85
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    wpearsons23 wrote: »
    A murder charge? Why do you come to that suggestion? We know very very little about the details surrounding the incident. Step back and take a breath is what i'd say to you

    +1 agree, let the guards sort that out.

    There have been many reports about what happened. One I have heard is that a disagreement came out over a fare, the driver took out a baton, the passenger defended himself and punched the driver who fell and his head hit the ground hard. So this would not be a murder charge.

    Obviously if the passenger did murder the driver then he deserves the full extent of the law thrown at him.

    innocent until proven guilty though.


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    AnonoBoy
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    irishbird wrote: »
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    Was it a racially motivated crime? I haven’t heard that said in the news?

    Neither have I. However lazy journalists will tie all the weeks events together so they can write articles about race relations in Ireland. Just wait.


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    Degsy
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    samsham wrote: »
    Poor man, my heart goes out to his family, It's also so sad that he died on a week when racial differences were highlighted in the national news. Unfortunately the poor man was working in an industry full of danger. Perhaps its time to review Taxi safety. Also perhaps its time the seat was taking out of the front of taxis and the passengers caged in the back like we see in the UK and the US. If that's the way to prevent further deaths then it should be done. I wrote here just last week on assaults on African drivers in Waterford and what they saw as a lack of concern by local Garda. Well it seems this news is not going to give them any confidence that things will get any better.

    Anyway RIP Moses Ayanwole 41yo Dublin Taxi Driver

    What about attacks on non-african drivers? Does that not concern you as much?

    Surely all men are equal regardless of ethnicity?


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    Ellis Dee
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    Children have lost a father, a woman has lost her partner. And why?

    It is sickening to see some of the comments being posted in the feedback columns of some online Irish newspapers and on the Politics.ie web site.

    It seems nothing is sacred to some racists, who want to blame the victim for being an immigrant, having the "wrong" skin colour, and so on.

    Let's have some respect for an innocent working man who was brutally assaulted while earning a living and let the Gardai, the DPP and the courts get on with dealing with this sickening crime against a human being. Let's hope none of them have Darren Scully's selective attitude to doing his official duty.


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    samsham
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    Degsy wrote: »
    What about attacks on non-african drivers? Does that not concern you as much?

    Surely all men are equal regardless of ethnicity?

    Why would you make a comment like that, all attacks concern me, It just happens this one happened this week and that African drivers seem to be taking a lot more abuse than Irish drivers lately. As to the other comments above as to this being racially motivated, who said it was. I said in a week when racially differences were pointed, as in, Africans being described as aggressive. Pointing out that were never agressive.


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    Degsy
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    samsham wrote: »
    that African drivers seem to be taking a lot more abuse than Irish drivers lately.


    Perhaps an irish taxi driver would like to comment on that?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0909/ifsc.html

    http://www.themissinglist.co.uk/police-appeal/taxi-driver-robbed-near-fire-station-north-strand-road-dublin

    http://www.herald.ie/news/taxi-driver-robber-is-jailed-2636896.html


    Ten seconds googling throws up three attacks...why didnt you highlight these when preachingto the forums?


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    JosDel
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    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    brutally assaulted

    I really feel it for his family RIP,

    Also from what I am lead to believe,

    There was a disagreement about an incorrect taxi fare, the driver jumped out and grabbed the young lad in the passinger seat, took him out of the car, a scuffle broke out between the 2 of them and the poor driver ended up falling to the ground and hitting his head off the pathway.

    Let the Garda or the DPP decide if this was a brutal assault.

    In anyway my heart goes out to his family and friends


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    John Mason
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    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Children have lost a father, a woman has lost her partner. And why?

    It is sickening to see some of the comments being posted in the feedback columns of some online Irish newspapers and on the Politics.ie web site.

    It seems nothing is sacred to some racists, who want to blame the victim for being an immigrant, having the "wrong" skin colour, and so on.

    Let's have some respect for an innocent working man who was brutally assaulted while earning a living and let the Gardai, the DPP and the courts get on with dealing with this sickening crime against a human being. Let's hope none of them have Darren Scully's selective attitude to doing his official duty.

    as have been said previously, no details have been released about the man's death. you dont know he was brutally assaulted - he there may have been an altercation and the man fell and banged his head - which is very different to being brutally assaulted.

    i think you should refrain from making wild "evening herald" statements until you know the full facts.


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    samsham
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    JosDel wrote: »
    I really feel it for his family RIP,

    Also from what I am lead to believe,

    There was a disagreement about an incorrect taxi fare, the driver jumped out and grabbed the young lad in the passinger seat, took him out of the car, a scuffle broke out between the 2 of them and the poor driver ended up falling to the ground and hitting his head off the pathway.

    Let the Garda or the DPP decide if this was a brutal assault.

    In anyway my heart goes out to his family and friends

    Saying it was over an incorrect fare implies the taxi driver was some how guilty. I have heard three different stories so far. none the same as yours.His post Morton is this afternoon, however the hospital said before his death he had serious face and head injuries. He also had injuries to his hands. regardless as to what happened to walk away leave him there, not even informing the emergency services is cold.


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    phasers
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    I'm hearing so many different versions of events that I don't know if anybody is really to blame. RIP the driver, my Dad is a taxi driver and I always worry about him when he's out.


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    strandroad
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    samsham wrote: »
    Saying it was over an incorrect fare implies the taxi driver was some how guilty. I have heard three different stories so far. none the same as yours.His post Morton is this afternoon, however the hospital said before his death he had serious face and head injuries. He also had injuries to his hands. regardless as to what happened to walk away leave him there, not even informing the emergency services is cold.

    Today's Herald (yeah I know) describes accounts according to which a larger group of people wanted to get into his taxi, the driver refused because of the size of the group he could not accommodate them all. They went away to get more taxis but one of them stayed behind and this is when it happened. The one who stayed behind was apparently drunk.


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    samsham
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    mhge wrote: »
    Today's Herald (yeah I know) describes accounts according to which a larger group of people wanted to get into his taxi, the driver refused because of the size of the group he could not accommodate them all. They went away to get more taxis but one of them stayed behind and this is when it happened. The one who stayed behind was apparently drunk.

    That along the line of one of the stories I heard, also that it was member of a particular community here. But then that's all second hand info.


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    Sooopie
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    This made me really sad when I heard.

    I hope the scumbag is done for it.


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    Boulevardier
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    Coming out of the Grand Canal theatre last night, we (my elderly dad and I) saw that the taxi queue was long and that we would probably have a wait.

    However, a taxi which had just left the queue suddenly stopped, and 2 people got out and went to the taxi behind instead. We gratefully grabbed the newly empty taxi, which turned out to have a driver who told us he is Nigerian. The taxi behind had a white driver, and my supposition now is that the other couple were racially prejudiced.

    This may be happening quite a lot.


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    carlowed
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    the sad thing is it happend around the time of the naas-gate


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    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Apart from this death happening on a Dublin street the discussion never really stayed inside the remit of the Dublin City Forum.

    Taxi driver assaults, disputes, fare's etc are not us.

    Neither is second, third or fourth hand information on an ongoing Garda investigation.

    Nass, Waterford etc ... :rolleyes:

    R.I.P.


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