Manchester United v Newcastle United

killwill

basillarkin wrote: »

Jack Wilshere? Based on what?

His performances for Arsenal and England.
What else could it be based on?

basillarkin

killwill wrote: »

His performances for Arsenal and England.
What else could it be based on?

The lad has about 2 premier league goals scored in 3 seasons is injury prone and is one of Englands best players, if someine said he has the potenial to be then I might agree.

BERBA

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Back in the title race

ppfffttt....ye were never in it to begin with;)

i'd have J Defoe over Sturridge all day long and he's only a squad player for us

willmunny1990

BERBA wrote: »

ppfffttt....ye were never in it to begin with;)

We were at the start...Spurs were not even thought of, and I doubt City or United are quaking in their boots about ye now:pac:

1mcampo1

basillarkin wrote: »

The lad has about 2 premier league goals scored in 3 seasons is injury prone and is one of Englands best players, if someine said he has the potenial to be then I might agree.

More to football than goals....:pac:

He however, is not England's best player. He will be though imo. I think it's either Rooney or Cole

On form, its either Gabby Agbonlahor, Hart or Micah Richards. How Richards isn't the regular RB for England, i dont know...

basillarkin

1mcampo1 wrote: »

More to football than goals....:pac:

He however, is not England's best player. He will be though imo. I think it's either Rooney or Cole

On form, its either Gabby Agbonlahor, Hart or Micah Richards. How Richards isn't the regular RB for England, i dont know...

I've already stated Gabby twice above, of course there is alot more to football than goals, I watch alot of Arsenal games and he is one for the future

YouTookMyName

Le King wrote: »

Englands two best players are Jack Wilshere and Wayne Rooney. The rest don't come into the same class bracket as them.

Danny Sturridge certainly doesn't fit into that class.

Wilshere has caught the Out for 6 weeks, no 3 months, no 6 months, no the season, Arsenal muscle go bang syndrome.

And he'll never reach the heights he should do.

Xavi6

Thanks Toon

YouTookMyName

Disgraceful behaviour that will as usual go unnoticed and yet when suarez has a moan at a ref, it's as though the world is going to end

killwill

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Disgraceful behaviour that will as usual go unnoticed and yet when suarez has a moan at a ref, it's as though the world is going to end

Now whilst I hate seeing this happening, don't go over the top. You have a good point to make and if you cut out the wumming posters will take heed instead of dismissing you entirely.

The players were very frustrated with some of the decisions in particular the ridiculous penalty. In fact the linesman did not have nearly the view the ref had.
But yes that behaviour should not be tolerated.
Let's see what tomorrow brings before we go judging players in a top 4 game.

Professional Griefer

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Disgraceful behaviour that will as usual go unnoticed and yet when suarez has a moan at a ref, it's as though the world is going to end

Yeah, its because when Suarez moans we all jump on him. Thats not why I see people hating on Suarez.
And if it was, then fcuk it, we've all seen Barca players hound the ref after a tackle/or dive, and most people say nothing.

From what I've seen, people hate on Suarez because he dives and if he doesn't get a free for it he complains.

And if he gets fouled people complain, as he has a reputation of going down easy. But its not unlikely for players to go up to a ref after a game complaining about it, we all know it won't change anything, but it happens, its just United players who do it.

Hell, what Dalglish was caught saying to Wenger last year was disgraceful, and mostly went unnoticed, but if Fergie said that to another manager then there'd be uproar

killwill

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Yeah, its because when Suarez moans we all jump on him. Thats not why I see people hating on Suarez.
And if it was, then fcuk it, we've all seen Barca players hound the ref after a tackle/or dive, and most people say nothing.

From what I've seen, people hate on Suarez because he dives and if he doesn't get a free for it he complains.

And if he gets fouled people complain, as he has a reputation of going down easy. But its not unlikely for players to go up to a ref after a game complaining about it, we all know it won't change anything, but it happens, its just United players who do it.

Hell, what Dalglish was caught saying to Wenger last year was disgraceful, and mostly went unnoticed, but if Fergie said that to another manager then there'd be uproar

Very good point there.
If that was said to a player of a rival team or a linesman or ref he would have been banned.
I never understood why he got away with it. Especially because SAF and UTD are the only ones who get away with anything in the PL!

SantryRed

killwill wrote: »

Very good point there.
If that was said to a player of a rival team or a linesman or ref he would have been banned.
I never understood why he got away with it. Especially because SAF and UTD are the only ones who get away with anything in the PL!

Oh FFS. If he was a player he would not have been banned. Get over yourself. Not a very good point at all.

doc_17

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Disgraceful behaviour that will as usual go unnoticed and yet when suarez has a moan at a ref, it's as though the world is going to end

The ref handled it well by backing off but if ever any of them want to literally "take a stand" then this surrounding the ref would stop as it would appear to be physical interference.

Awful decision by the way.

nullzero

Xavi6 wrote: »

Thanks Toon

I think you meant "thanks Sheik Mansours money".

KittyeeTrix

nullzero wrote: »

I think you meant "thanks Sheik Mansours money".

That too;)

Vurnon San Benito

YouTookMyName wrote: »

What the hell is Macheda arguing with him for? :pac:

Will I Amnt

Doocey wrote: »

What the hell is Macheda arguing with him for? :pac:

Like everyone else on the team,in the stadium(except the lino)and watching on tv he seen a perfectly timed tackle result in a penalty.Thats why :pac:

Vurnon San Benito

cambo2008 wrote: »

Like everyone else on the team,in the stadium(except the lino)and watching on tv he seen a perfectly timed tackle result in a penalty.Thats why :pac:

I just find it funny considering the guy did absolutely nothing when he came on, hasn't played for United in how long? And he's one of the lads in the refs face :pac:

tommyhaas

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Hell, what Dalglish was caught saying to Wenger last year was disgraceful, and mostly went unnoticed, but if Fergie said that to another manager then there'd be uproar

Are we really at a stage where the phrase ''piss off'' can be described as disgraceful?

Liverpool got a pen late on, and Wenger started moaning to Dalglish about the decision. Firstly, Dalglish didn't award it, and secondly, if you remember it, its extremely unlikely Wenger could have seen it properly from the bench. Dalglish obviously wasn't interested in Wenger's whining, and said as much

Fans always complain about how easily players go down, how you can't tackle anymore, that football used to be a contact sport, and yet suddenly there's all these people offended by the phrase ''piss off''. So which way do you want it?

For all the cheating, diving and Tevez-like petulance in the Premier League, its pretty sad that people either genuinely or in looking for a way to criticise another manager, act offended by this.

Similar in alot of ways to the Rooney incident with the camera last year. Football for the most part is a working class game, if you're offended by swear words, go watch cricket, polo, rugby or something. As Liam Gallagher said about the Rooney incident, ''I'm sure it caused huge offence to all the little Sebastian's in private school's around London''

Will I Amnt

tommyhaas wrote: »

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Are we really at a stage where the phrase ''piss off'' can be described as disgraceful?

Not that it makes any difference to me personally but iirc he also told him to f@#k off.

I fail to see how people can be offended by either when you hear some of the chants from the fans.
Edit:here it is

The_Kew_Tour

Poor decision for Penalty, but in fairness we have got rub of green before.

We still had enough chances to win the game and failed to take them. Disappointing.

Blatter

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Poor decision for Penalty, but in fairness we have got rub of green before.

We still had enough chances to win the game and failed to take them. Disappointing.

We had enough chances to win around 5 games!

No where near clinical enough yesterday.

The_Kew_Tour

Blatter wrote: »

We had enough chances to win around 5 games!

No where near clinical enough yesterday.

The only plus about yesterday was at least we did create chances to actually win the game unlike say during the week against Benifca, where I can only remember one chance after they got it to 2-2.

Just one of those days that nothing would go in.

Before we may have been good enough to get points like that back, but the way we are playing at minute, it's hard to be confident.

YouTookMyName

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Poor decision for Penalty, but in fairness we have got rub of green before.

We still had enough chances to win the game and failed to take them. Disappointing.

UTD fan in talking sense shocker.

The_Kew_Tour

YouTookMyName wrote: »

UTD fan in talking sense shocker.