Take to The Streets?

JeanLucPicard

With all the depressing headlines regarding our up and coming cutbacks and budget I'm just curious....

1. Are we a nation of just growling about it and sitting on our arses?

2. Or is there a point when we would collectively take to the streets in our masses in protest?

galwayrush

Weather's too cold atm, maybe next summer.

Biscuits16

Too much effort

MrStuffins

What are you protesting exactly?

These people are cutting back because there's f*ck all money at the moment. What exactly are you hoping will happen if you protest?

Budgets are nothing new my friend!

chocksaway

ya can protest all ya want but it wont solve anything! think the government knows that we aint happy but cuts have to be made!

phasers

You gwan ahead, I just have to lace my shoes up.

Chuck Stone

Global mortgage strike would bring the whole system down.

El Weirdo

Meh.

Pacing Mule

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Global mortgage strike would bring the whole system down.

Which would lead to complete chaos, anarchy and the sort of scenes seen in mad max. No thanks !

Ally Dick

Cuts need to be made but there needs to be fair play around who gets cut. The public service are getting off scott free again with the government's cowardly Croke Park deal. The banksters have gotten off as well. People wouldn't mind cuts if they felt that the politicians, public sector and banksters have taken the hit as well. The old bullsh!t in this country where certain people are protected from the pain, needs to be addressed

John Doe1

Ah be quiet shay givara:p

gbee

Personally, I'm afraid to leave the house as I'm over three months in arrears and I'd be afraid the council would change the locks and lock me out.

amacca

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

Which would lead to complete chaos, anarchy and the sort of scenes seen in mad max. No thanks !

I have a months supply of canned food...a lack of regard for personal safety, a penchant for strong bloody violence and I'm not afraid to rough it

Yes please!

Chuck Stone

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

Which would lead to complete chaos, anarchy and the sort of scenes seen in mad max. No thanks !

Ah now.

It would lead to flowers in our hair and chocolates and ponies and romance.

SeaFields

JeanLucPicard wrote: »

1. Are we a nation of just growling about it and sitting on our arses?

yes

JeanLucPicard wrote: »

2. Or is there a point when we would collectively take to the streets in our masses in protest?

no

Ally Dick

Irish people are different. They fume and give out about their lot, go to bed at night, then wake up refreshed and forgetting what they were annoyed about. That's why we take so much. It's a unique mentality

amacca

Ally Dick wrote: »

Irish people are different. They fume and give out about their lot, go to bed at night, then wake up refreshed and forgetting what they were annoyed about. That's why we take so much. It's a unique mentality

why do people keep talking about "Irish people" like its possible to understand them?

woodoo

Take to the streets...... hell yeah.... but...

Can't do Monday to Friday as i work,
Cant do Saturday as i golf that day,
Can't do Sunday as i have family over.

Do you mind if i just complain on boards instead.

Fromthetrees

**** it, if we sit back and take it in the ass for every cut than things will be much worse. The point is 'our' national debt has gotten so big because we bailed out French, British and German banks, 'if' we protested there might be a small chance that some of their debt that we're paying might be canceled off. All the sh1tes that say 'protesting won't change anything' are the exact same people who thought there was 'no point' in not being subjects of the queen, well we're not subjects of the queen, because people stood up and were counted.

tigger123

Or...

3. sit at home and not moan about it.

MrStuffins

Fromthetrees wrote: »

**** it, if we sit back and take it in the ass for every cut than things will be much worse. The point is 'our' national debt has gotten so big because we bailed out French, British and German banks, 'if' we protested there might be a small chance that some of their debt that we're paying might be canceled off. All the sh1tes that say 'protesting won't change anything' are the exact same people who thought there was 'no point' in not being subjects of the queen, well we're not subjects of the queen, because people stood up and were counted.

Rabble rabble!!!!

pragmatic1

Give it a few months.

wonderfulname

There is no benefit to mass protest, all it will do is give Ireland an even more unstable image internationally, which is bad, suck it up and get on with it, we're still an incredibly privileged nation and with proper management we have the ability to get out of this. Protesting cuts to inflated expenditure is as stupid as moaning about it.

MrStuffins

wonderfulname wrote: »

There is no benefit to mass protest.....

"Sir, there's a few people outside protesting"

"Really? Well in that case...... MORE SOCIAL WELFARE FOR ALL!!"

W.Shakes-Beer

Will there be sandwiches available at these Streets?

round tower huntsman

i dont know where the "fightng irish" thing comes from cos all ive seen over the last few yrs is a nation,bar a brave and principled minority, bending over and taking every inch.

daniel o connells brother,a priest, said bout the irish around the time of the faimine.................god bless the irish,they'll watch their children starve before breaking the law:o:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
we are a nation of walkovers and quislings.
someday we'll rise again.

Zebra3

MrStuffins wrote: »

What are you protesting exactly?

These people are cutting back because there's f*ck all money at the moment. What exactly are you hoping will happen if you protest?

Budgets are nothing new my friend!

There's plenty of money.

It's being given to failed gamblers and the b*stards that destroyed the economy.

A pension of 150k a year for Ahern? 50k a year pension for Sutherland who is worth 80million euro.

Cop the f*ck on people, this country ain't broke. There's plenty for the golden circle.

MrStuffins

round tower huntsman wrote: »

i dont know where the "fightng irish" thing comes from cos all ive seen over the last few yrs is a nation,bar a brave and principled minority, bending over and taking every inch.

daniel o connells brother,a priest, said bout the irish around the time of the faimine.................god bless the irish,they'll watch their children starve before breaking the law:o:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
we are a nation of walkovers and quislings.
someday we'll rise again.

You realise that the country is run by Irish people, its Irish people who got us into this mess and it'll be Irish drawing up the budget right?

round tower huntsman

the irish to me are the irish working class, they arent to blame for this mess. the people that caused this are traitors to the irish republic,imo.

wonderfulname

Zebra3 wrote: »

There's plenty of money.

It's being given to failed gamblers and the b*stards that destroyed the economy.

A pension of 150k a year for Ahern? 50k a year pension for Sutherland who is worth 80million euro.

Cop the f*ck on people, this country ain't broke. There's plenty for the golden circle.

Do you realise how tiny 200k a year is when you put it beside the country's annual budget? It's even more insignificant beside the national debit, the ridiculous levels of wastage in the public sector and social welfare on the other hand makes up a sizeable amount of money when you're talking on this scale.

round tower huntsman

Zebra3 wrote: »

There's plenty of money.

It's being given to failed gamblers and the b*stards that destroyed the economy.

A pension of 150k a year for Ahern? 50k a year pension for Sutherland who is worth 80million euro.

Cop the f*ck on people, this country ain't broke. There's plenty for the golden circle.

the man that over saw this whole mess, pat neary,walked from the central bank with a lump sum and yearly pension worth hundreds of thousands. harney and traitors like ahern and biffo earning a fortune on pensions, its sickening tbh:mad:

MrStuffins

round tower huntsman wrote: »

the irish to me are the irish working class, they arent to blame for this mess. the people that caused this are traitors to the irish republic,imo.

Well the people in charge are the people we, the Irish working class, put in power using our democratic rights.

gbee

MrStuffins wrote: »

Well the people in charge are the people we, the Irish working class, put in power using our LIMITED democratic rights.

See, I fixed that for you.

Zebra3

wonderfulname wrote: »

Do you realise how tiny 200k a year is when you put it beside the country's annual budget?

Of course I do, what sort of a stupid question is that to ask?

wonderfulname wrote: »

It's even more insignificant beside the national debit, the ridiculous levels of wastage in the public sector and social welfare on the other hand makes up a sizeable amount of money when you're talking on this scale.

Let the pain start at the top. I'm sick of seeing that slimeball Sutherland being given airtime on RTE to demand that poor people suffer cutbacks. Just shows how corrupt the system is. :mad:

wonderfulname

MrStuffins wrote: »

Well the people in charge are the people we, the Irish working class, put in power using our democratic rights.

Careful now, nobody likes when you point out that FF weren't heading up a dictatorship.

MrStuffins

gbee wrote: »

MrStuffins wrote: »

Well the people in charge are the people we, the Irish working class, put in power using our [COLOR="Red"]LIMITED [/COLOR]democratic rights.

See, I fixed that for you.

I'm sorry, did someone stop you voting?

Chuck Stone

MrStuffins wrote: »

Well the people in charge are the people we, the Irish working class, put in power using our democratic rights.

We weren't asked if we wanted the banks bailed out.

How many people do you think would have voted yes to a bank bailout if it had went to a referendum?

wonderfulname

Chuck Stone wrote: »

We weren't asked if we wanted the banks bailed out.

How many people do you think would have voted yes to a bank bailout if it had went to a referendum?

Did you speak to your local representative about the bail out? Encourage others to? How did they vote?

Zebra3

Chuck Stone wrote: »

We didn't ask, nor were we asked, if we wanted the banks bailed out.

How many people do you think would have voted yes to a bank bailout if it had went to a referendum?

You'd still probably get 30-35% of the moronic public to do so because "the politicans know best/told us to".

Just look at the turn around on Lisbon. "I'm voting for Lisbon for jobs". That worked out well, didnt it? :rolleyes:

W77

MrStuffins wrote: »

I am a sheep. Bah.

Fixed it even more.

wonderfulname

W77 wrote: »

Fixed it even more.

You you guys have a new version of democracy where you're always right and you ridicule anyone who disagrees with you regardless of what they have to say or what they know on the subject? We already have a name for that kind of system and it doesn't fall into the category of democracy.

So what was the problem with your vote anyway?

Or do you have nothing to add, rather just dislike what some people are saying?

coonecb1

MrStuffins wrote: »

What are you protesting exactly?

These people are cutting back because there's f*ck all money at the moment. What exactly are you hoping will happen if you protest?

Budgets are nothing new my friend!

Maybe you should be asking WHY there's f*ck all money.

The answer is that our Government threw our economic sovereignty under the bus in order to rescue private sector bank bondholders.

The debts incurred from that have bankrupted the country, and the Government are now coming to the most vulnerable in our society, and sticking them with the tab.

You don't get a sense of injustice in that?

dxhound2005

Ally Dick wrote: »

Cuts need to be made but there needs to be fair play around who gets cut. The public service are getting off scott free again with the government's cowardly Croke Park deal. The banksters have gotten off as well. People wouldn't mind cuts if they felt that the politicians, public sector and banksters have taken the hit as well. The old bullsh!t in this country where certain people are protected from the pain, needs to be addressed

Scot is an old word for tax or levy. So public service workers did not get off scot free.

Herb Powell

People have taken to the streets worldwide.
But sure they're only dirty, unemployed, weed-smoking hippies.

W77

wonderfulname wrote: »

You you guys have a new version of democracy where you're always right and you ridicule anyone who disagrees with you regardless of what they have to say or what they know on the subject? We already have a name for that kind of system and it doesn't fall into the category of democracy.

So what was the problem with your vote anyway?

Or do you have nothing to add, rather just dislike what some people are saying?

Whomever the political candidates may be, it does not matter. They are all different branches of the same Zionist tree. The outcome of this financial crisis was decided years ago. But telling you people this is just wasting time. You're all sheep beyond belief. So now I just use this site as a means to acknowledge how hopeless we truly are.

MrStuffins

W77 wrote: »

MrStuffins wrote: »

I am a sheep. Bah.

Fixed it even more.

Jaysus :rolleyes:

Herb Powell

W77 wrote: »

Whomever the political candidates may be, it does not matter. They are all different branches of the same Zionist tree. The outcome of this financial crisis was decided years ago. But telling you people this is just wasting time. You're all sheep beyond belief. So now I just use this site as a means to acknowledge how hopeless we truly are.

LAWL DATWORD AGAIN

wonderfulname

coonecb1 wrote: »

Maybe you should be asking WHY there's f*ck all money.

The answer is that our Government threw our economic sovereignty under the bus in order to rescue private sector bank bondholders.

The debts incurred from that have bankrupted the country, and the Government are now coming to the most vulnerable in our society, and sticking them with the tab.

You don't get a sense of injustice in that?

Our country is not bankrupt. As a young person my sense of injustice comes from knowing a huge portion of the older generation lived outside of their means and repeatedly and blindly voted for the party that offered the lowest tax rate and best hikes in social welfare, without this ridiculous behaviour we would not be in the same mess we are in now, there is nothing major wrong with our political system, just how the people utilised it.

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Scot is an old word for tax or levy. So public service workers did not get off scot free.

And gay is an old word for happy, funnily enough that's not what people think I mean when I use the word. "scot free" in current usage means without punishment or injury, whilst I agree they took a minor hit and "scot free" might not be an entirely accurate assessment the public sector is still sitting pretty in pre-recession Ireland.

coonecb1

wonderfulname wrote: »

Our country is not bankrupt. As a young person my sense of injustice comes from knowing a huge portion of the older generation lived outside of their means and repeatedly and blindly voted for the party that offered the lowest tax rate and best hikes in social welfare, without this ridiculous behaviour we would not be in the same mess we are in now, there is nothing major wrong with our political system, just how the people utilised it.

1. Our country is not bankrupt? Would you mind telling that to the IMF/ECB, since if I'm not mistaken we were bailed out by them last November due to being shut out of the bond markets? If that's not bankrupt, what is?

2. You don't see any injustice in taxpayers picking up the debts of private, bankrupt banks? So am I to take it that you approve of the "Privatise the profits, socialise the losses" school of finance?

3. Our current fiscal mess was not caused by "Low tax, high spending". It was caused by the government stepping in to bail out the banking system.

wonderfulname

coonecb1 wrote: »

1. Our country is not bankrupt? Would you mind telling that to the IMF/ECB, since if I'm not mistaken we were bailed out by them last November due to being shut out of the bond markets? If that's not bankrupt, what is?

You could probably do with looking up the definition of bankrupt

coonecb1 wrote: »

2. You don't see any injustice in taxpayers picking up the debts of private, bankrupt banks? So am I to take it that you approve of the "Privatise the profits, socialise the losses" school of finance?

We had to do something at the time or our economy would be in a lot worse a state than it is now, I agree that a blanket bail out was not the best thing to do, but unless you have a time machine there is sweet shag all we can do about it now.

coonecb1 wrote: »

3. Our current fiscal mess was not caused by "Low tax, high spending". It was caused by the government stepping in to bail out the banking system.

You honestly believe we'd still be living the high life had we not bailed out the banks? Do you perchance remember why we bailed out the banks?

gbee

wonderfulname wrote: »

there is nothing major wrong with our political system, just how the people utilised it..

Spoken by someone who, in this post, demonstrates to everyone else, how little is known by the poster of the system the post is referring to.

In short we never had a democracy and we never had a low tax economy and we never had a celtic tiger.