New Shops/Businesses in Bray

Shaneo87ie

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

Drove by the site there at 9am. No sign of life on the site again today.

Its a bit mad isn't it? i'm sure there's a reason for it, but with there being so many delays I would have imagined from day 1 they'd have been back and trying to get it open asap

Lefty2Guns

Before lockdown they were only 2/3 weeks from PC (Practical Completion), so I heard anyway, once PC is given you can start fitting out your relevant units that the occupant was going to rent.

All sites are now open 4 weeks and still nothing if anything has happened.

Shaneo87ie

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

Before lockdown they were only 2/3 weeks from PC (Practical Completion), so I heard anyway, once PC is given you can start fitting out your relevant units that the occupant was going to rent.

All sites are now open 4 weeks and still nothing if anything has happened.

Yeah its strange alright. you'd imagine they'd be trying to get occupants in ASAP

tea and coffee

There probably aren't any. Only his own ones, and covid would have meant that there would only just be opening back up

murpho999

Could be numerous reasons for inactivity on site. Delivery of materials could be one issue due to Covid and even the Suez canal thing.

We just don't know.

Seems to be a narrative (on Bray Open Forum on FB) that the project is in trouble and there's no tenents etc but I just don't buy that at all as project is too near completion at this stage.

Annasopra

murpho999 wrote: »

Could be numerous reasons for inactivity on site. Delivery of materials could be one issue due to Covid and even the Suez canal thing.

We just don't know.

Seems to be a narrative (on Bray Open Forum on FB) that the project is in trouble and there's no tenents etc but I just don't buy that at all as project is too near completion at this stage.

The only tenants publicly announced are 7 press up group outlets and 2 others - There are as yet no retail tenants announced at all.

murpho999

Annasopra wrote: »

The only tenants publicly announced are 7 press up group outlets and 2 others - There are as yet no retail tenants announced at all.

Yes, I know that but it doesn't mean that things are not happening.

To me it's very obvious that retailers might put expansion plans on hold due to Covid but now that things are starting to change we may see announcements.

It still does not mean the project is failed.

Lefty2Guns

murpho999 wrote: »

Seems to be a narrative (on Bray Open Forum on FB) that the project is in trouble and there's no tenents etc but I just don't buy that at all as project is too near completion at this stage.

I'd agree in regards to the near completion. Regardless of tenants they would still look to complete the external works and have everything ready to go for when potential tenants view the place. I'm assuming the cash is there to complete these works and the builder would be under contract too.

As it is so near to completion I'm assuming its not a cash flow problem unless the builder is owed money and refuses to return to site until he is paid what is owed.

Shaneo87ie

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

I'd agree in regards to the near completion. Regardless of tenants they would still look to complete the external works and have everything ready to go for when potential tenants view the place. I'm assuming the cash is there to complete these works and the builder would be under contract too.

As it is so near to completion I'm assuming its not a cash flow problem unless the builder is owed money and refuses to return to site until he is paid what is owed.

Yeah surely its costing them more money for every day the crane sits there unused.

murpho999

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

I'd agree in regards to the near completion. Regardless of tenants they would still look to complete the external works and have everything ready to go for when potential tenants view the place. I'm assuming the cash is there to complete these works and the builder would be under contract too.

As it is so near to completion I'm assuming its not a cash flow problem unless the builder is owed money and refuses to return to site until he is paid what is owed.

I think most tenets like larger retail would be striking deals off plans and not waiting on viewing to make a decision.

I'd say Covid has just delayed everything, especially retail expansion plans.

As things are now start to open up then I'd expect things to happen pretty quickly.

Shaneo87ie wrote: »

Yeah surely its costing them more money for every day the crane sits there unused.

Depends on the deal they with the crane company. Maybe the construction company even owns it. Who knows?

Calibos

I think its likely a case of the new tenants in no hurry to move in until the economy opens up fully allowing the developer time to shift the workforce to its residential developments to make up for lost time on those before moving them back to complete the Florentine Centre.

I assume the clothes retailer of price conscious Bray ladies dreams is still ON as the main anchor tenant?

Shaneo87ie

Calibos wrote: »

I think its likely a case of the new tenants in no hurry to move in until the economy opens up fully allowing the developer time to shift the workforce to its residential developments to make up for lost time on those before moving them back to complete the Florentine Centre.

I assume the clothes retailer of price conscious Bray ladies dreams is still ON as the main anchor tenant?

I'm not sure if this anchor tenant you mentioned has ever been confirmed...

murpho999

Calibos wrote: »

I think its likely a case of the new tenants in no hurry to move in until the economy opens up fully allowing the developer time to shift the workforce to its residential developments to make up for lost time on those before moving them back to complete the Florentine Centre.

I assume the clothes retailer of price conscious Bray ladies dreams is still ON as the main anchor tenant?

I just can't see it myself. Brown Thomas opening a store in Bray?
Especially as they're taking most of the House of Fraser units in Dundrum.

You never know though.

Annasopra

Shaneo87ie wrote: »

I'm not sure if this anchor tenant you mentioned has ever been confirmed...

Nah. Just persistent rumours.

Shaneo87ie

I've heard the new Supervalue on the Southern Cross road opens tomorrow... is this true?

Alun

Shaneo87ie wrote: »

I've heard the new Supervalue on the Southern Cross road opens tomorrow... is this true?

I've just driven past it and there's nothing to say that. It's still opening "soon" according to the signs.

Calibos

murpho999 wrote: »

I just can't see it myself. Brown Thomas opening a store in Bray?
Especially as they're taking most of the House of Fraser units in Dundrum.

You never know though.

.....clothes retailer of price conscious Bray ladies dreams...

;)

murpho999

Calibos wrote: »

;)

Well BT customers are price concious but with minimums not maximums.;:pac:

Calibos

murpho999 wrote: »

Well BT customers are Price Concious but with minimums not maximums.;:pac:

In other words, they’re not counting the....pennies... ;)

BraveDonut

Shaneo87ie wrote: »

I've heard the new Supervalue on the Southern Cross road opens tomorrow... is this true?

June 10th 10AM

WeleaseWoderick

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/penneys-to-drop-anchor-at-bray-central-c5n0q7rxc

Penneys finally confirmed.

zoobizoo

That will be great for the Main St.

I'm not a fan of theirs but hey, lots of people are.

Creamy Goodness

Great anchor tenant, shall mean this place won’t be a ghost town in 5 years time.

Sad to be the end of a near 20 year rumour though

"Where were you when you found out Penneys were finally coming to Bray?"
"It was the June bank holiday, lovely day it was...."

It will be the stuff of legends.

Shaneo87ie

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Great anchor tenant, shall mean this place won’t be a ghost town in 5 years time.

Sad to be the end of a near 20 year rumour though

Haha I know, what will people moan about now? Oh wait, traffic in bray due to it opening… that’s already happening. People are hilarious. Literally never happy 😂

*update* oh someone is saying it’s great news but they hope it is air conditioning cos dundrum penny’s is too hot… Jesus Christ

fjon

Great news. But like everyone else I’ll miss the Penney’s rumours on BOF now.

Creamy Goodness

Don’t worry parking will be the next hot topic as always. Someone will complain that it’s not right outside the shop and it costs €3 ph.

Hasn’t seen BOF since the announcement I tend to log in once a week to FB cause I personally can’t take the faux rage.

murpho999

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Don’t worry parking will be the next hot topic as always. Someone will complain that it’s not right outside the shop and it costs €3 ph.

Hasn’t seen BOF since the announcement I tend to log in once a week to FB cause I personally can’t take the faux rage.

Good news about Penneys.
Not a fan of the shop or their clothes myself but they're very popular and will add to the town and hopefully help bring some vibrancy to the town and its retail.
Someone already complaining about traffic impact on town but you can't not build stuff just because it may increase traffic/

As for people complaining about parking, I never got the complaint. Always found there to be plenty of parking options in Bray, Church car park always had spaces when I went to it as did the car park on Florence Road where Bray Central now being bult. Even now I usually park for free in Lidl and do 5 minute walk up the town.

A lot of people think that cars should be allowed go anywhere and complain on days like today when they can't get parking on the seafront instead of just parking around Quinsboro Road etc and walking a little and then say there's no parking in the town.

Burt Renaults

murpho999 wrote: »

Someone already complaining about traffic impact on town but you can't not build stuff just because it may increase traffic/

Also, there's no valid reason why a shop like Penneys should result in increased levels of traffic. Bags of clothes and whatever other tat they sell can easily be carried on public transport - by which Bray is already extremely well-served. More needs to be done to discourage people from driving into the town centre.

murpho999

Burt Renaults wrote: »

Also, there's no valid reason why a shop like Penneys should result in increased levels of traffic. Bags of clothes and whatever other tat they sell can easily be carried on public transport - by which Bray is already extremely well-served. More needs to be done to discourage people from driving into the town centre.

People still prefer cars, simple as that.

You're not going to force people out of cars onto public transport.

Bray's traffic problem could be eased somewhat by changing the lights sequencing at Corke Abbey and Royal Corner as they cause all the problems.

Also I really don't view the new Bray Town Central as something to bring new people to the town as people outside of Bray have plenty of choices but more to try and keep Bray people shopping in the town.