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The nasty face of racism...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Nodin wrote: »
    People are free to read the links I posted and make their own minds up.

    I asked if you agreed with his views.

    You also seem to be dodging the questions regarding your views on the jews.
    KINGVictor wrote: »
    You still refuse to give your own opinion.

    Again what is your opinion?
    K-9 wrote: »
    When somebody dodges a question soooooo much it does kind of lead to a conclusion from somebody just reading a thread.

    profitius was making a big deal of people not answering a simple question earlier in this thread, now karma is coming back on him, or really, people are holding others to the same standards they expected previously.

    On a side note, racists suffer from a basic lack of logic and reasoning skills, just my opinion though.

    See the problem here is not me avoiding the question. I've said why I cannot answer it. You lot are trying to paint me as a big bad racist nazi skinhead etc etc. Well sorry to disappoint you all but I'm none of those. The question I asked was a straight forward question anybody can answer without having to deal with sh!te talk from internet warriors. But it was avoided by some people.

    I think in regards to the question I will say I have an opinion thats different to your opinions on racial intelligence. Get it? DO you get the hint? Thats all you're going to get so cry all you want about it its water off a ducks back to me. ;)

    Do you lot pester every person on their opinions on racial intelligence? If not, why not? And whats your opinions on the subject?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    old hippy wrote: »
    You don't write on where you stand - you spew out your tired and overlong polemics on the evils of multicultural society and people who fight against racists.

    I'm too long in the tooth & I've heard it all before. I welcome my brothers and sisters from all round the world & nobody is trying to wipe out anyone's culture or homogenise it.

    I deal with racism on a regular basis and I don't need pseuds standing at the sidelines with nowt to contribute, except a vague whiff of superiority and hapless accusations.

    Is that why you're being way too sensitive and accusing everyone of racism? You talked about your mother being bullied before, you're being the bully now! So take a good long look in the mirror and control that inferiority complex of yours.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    profitius wrote: »
    Is that why you're being way too sensitive and accusing everyone of racism? You talked about your mother being bullied before, you're being the bully now! So take a good long look in the mirror and control that inferiority complex of yours.

    Bullying? Inferiority complex? Do stop projecting, there's a good chap.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    profitius wrote: »
    See the problem here is not me avoiding the question. I've said why I cannot answer it. You lot are trying to paint me as a big bad racist nazi skinhead etc etc. Well sorry to disappoint you all but I'm none of those. The question I asked was a straight forward question anybody can answer without having to deal with sh!te talk from internet warriors. But it was avoided by some people.

    I think in regards to the question I will say I have an opinion thats different to your opinions on racial intelligence. Get it? DO you get the hint? Thats all you're going to get so cry all you want about it its water off a ducks back to me. ;)

    Do you lot pester every person on their opinions on racial intelligence? If not, why not? And whats your opinions on the subject?


    You lot.... you lot... you lot.

    Change the record.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    old hippy wrote: »
    You don't write on where you stand - you spew out your tired and overlong polemics on the evils of multicultural society and people who fight against racists.

    I have multiple times... I'll spell it out: I abhor racism, which includes both political racism and anti-racism.

    old hippy wrote: »
    I'm too long in the tooth & I've heard it all before. I welcome my brothers and sisters from all round the world & nobody is trying to wipe out anyone's culture or homogenise it.

    As do I, but they do not necessarily have to arrive on my doorstep for me to be friendly and get to know them, I will befriend anyone, anywhere, any place.

    1) Why would a person blame immigrants or people who aren't native (if I can use this word) for governmental mismanagement? Answer: Racism

    2) Equally, why would someone blame the native population for governmental mismanagement. Answer: Anti-racist racism.

    The two main types of racism that prevail in our society today.

    The key question is, why do you welcome them? And no, I'm not saying this is wrong, but the reasons will dictate it's justice. If it is because of some kind of promoting or feeling of the 'pan human race' then it is tribal racism, just as if it was the 'pan-black/white race' or similar.

    Also to say the 'nobody is trying to wipe out anyone's culture' is a tad silly, because they are! The global economic elite is trying desperately to wipe out all culture to replace it with a socially-consumerist culture, one of greed, material utility and profiteering, which is entirely subservient to themselves. How can a person NOT see this?!

    Human, national, ethnic, religious, customary culture is almost the only thing that stands in the way of this, which is precisely why it's being slowly eroded and destroyed. Cultural-Americanisation (WHICH HAS NOTHING to do with the REAL native Indian or European America) is rampant, this is the new One world Culture which replaces the existing ones; multiculturalism is the social counterpart of this pan-political-cultural movement and it plays a great role in nullifying the important inter-cultural specialities and uniqueness of the peoples of the earth. It is a detriment to us all, European, Irish, African, Egyptian, Brazilian, Korean, whatever!

    The purpose of all this is $$$ of course. This is not to say that anyone is our enemy, don't even go there, the only enemy is already in the position of power, it is the common enemy of all the creative, cultural people of the world. The average man of the nations of the world is our potential friend, not the responsible party for the current global atrocities, of needless war, pillage, cultural genocide, population implosions, devastating poverty et al. This is the aforementioned political-economic elite.
    old hippy wrote: »
    I deal with racism on a regular basis and I don't need pseuds standing at the sidelines with nowt to contribute, except a vague whiff of superiority and hapless accusations.

    Same here, especially from anti-racists and racists, directed against Irish people, Polish, Nigerian, Chinese etc all the time. Multiculturalism, and this is a sad fact, perpetuates a vile, largely passive, racism. This is how it is, and believe me, I wish it where different. I have come to the conclusion that people probably do need their own sphere of thought, space and states to truly find their own distinct and lasting expression as a people, only then with this new life can new friendship be established between all people. Cultural intrusion on a scale of which the world has never seen before instigated by those in power for profit simply doesn't work. It was never meant to work either.

    I say all these as a lover and out of respect for world diversity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭reprazant


    profitius wrote: »
    See the problem here is not me avoiding the question. I've said why I cannot answer it. You lot are trying to paint me as a big bad racist nazi skinhead etc etc. Well sorry to disappoint you all but I'm none of those. The question I asked was a straight forward question anybody can answer without having to deal with sh!te talk from internet warriors. But it was avoided by some people.

    I think in regards to the question I will say I have an opinion thats different to your opinions on racial intelligence. Get it? DO you get the hint? Thats all you're going to get so cry all you want about it its water off a ducks back to me. ;)

    Do you lot pester every person on their opinions on racial intelligence? If not, why not? And whats your opinions on the subject?

    So essentially, you're not a big bad racist nazi, skinhead etc, etc, you are just somebody who bases the intelligence of a person on the colour of their skin?

    Also, you accused people of giving politician answers to your question because they didn't respond the way you wanted them but then refuse to answer the questions put to you. Somewhat hypocritical really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Eramen wrote: »
    This is true about the running culture in these countries. But people of African descent DO have faster contracting muscles than other ethnics, whereas Europeans have had more low twitch muscle development than others. There is no 'generalisation', it's just biology as confirmed by scientific investigation.

    This is a generalisation. Their are plenty of Europeans with more fast twitch fibres than Africans, and vice versa.

    The science is true but this more much more to do with a narrower band of genetics than saying an entire race has something another doesn't. Besides, you can have all the fast twitch fibres you like but if there isn't a running culture, it's likely you won't be the fastest. Europeans have a culture of football and we excel at that(Germany, Italy, Spain, etc..).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    reprazant wrote: »
    So essentially, you're not a big bad racist nazi, skinhead etc, etc, you are just somebody who bases the intelligence of a person on the colour of their skin?

    Also, you accused people of giving politician answers to your question because they didn't respond the way you wanted them but then refuse to answer the questions put to you. Somewhat hypocritical really.

    Where did I say that? Fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭reprazant


    profitius wrote: »
    Where did I say that? Fail.

    You didn't actually say it, you insinuated it and then refused to answer when asked directly.

    This coming from the same person who accused another of giving politician answers when they didn't get the answer they wanted is both hypocritical and pretty pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    reprazant wrote: »
    So essentially, you're not a big bad racist nazi, skinhead etc, etc, you are just somebody who bases the intelligence of a person on the colour of their skin?

    Also, you accused people of giving politician answers to your question because they didn't respond the way you wanted them but then refuse to answer the questions put to you. Somewhat hypocritical really.


    So, when you say 'colour of skin' you are referring to.. a race of people I take it? It's really not the same thing. Intelligence you were talking about, eh? Sometimes my skin is a little red when I come out of the shower, I must be of the 'Red race'.. :P

    It's well known that - in general - (and all jokes aside) East Asians have high metamathematical intelligence, yet lower spatial intelligence, Europeans have higher than the international average in verbal intelligence etc, according if a myriad of studies conducted many in countries.

    How can simply pointing out this general fact and trend make one a racist?! How pathetic.. especially when one speaks of intelligence. I smell political anti-racism (aka selective political racism = RACISM) which is neither logical or scientific. It scoffs at such things.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    reprazant wrote: »
    You didn't actually say it, you insinuated it and then refused to answer when asked directly.

    This coming from the same person who accused another of giving politician answers when they didn't get the answer they wanted is both hypocritical and pretty pathetic.

    Pathetic? Its pathetic that you're having reading problems. I said why I couldn't. You're the politician by ignoring that and then telling me I'm ignoring it while I'm clearly not. Is your name Bertie by any chance? :D

    I'd never judge a persons intelligence on the colour of their skin. I'm talking about averages if thats not too hard to understand.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    profitius wrote: »
    Pathetic? Its pathetic that you're having reading problems. I said why I couldn't. You're the politician by ignoring that and then telling me I'm ignoring it while I'm clearly not. Is your name Bertie by any chance? :D

    I'd never judge a persons intelligence on the colour of their skin. I'm talking about averages if thats not too hard to understand.

    And yet you'll post links to disgraced scientists who say blacks are less intelligent... what was the point of that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Eramen wrote: »
    So, when you say 'colour is skin' you are referring to.. a race of people I take it? It's really not the same thing. Intelligence you were talking about, eh? Sometimes my skin is a little red when I come out of the shower, I must be of the 'Red race'.. :P

    It's well known that - in general - (and all jokes aside) East Asians have high metamathematical intelligence, yet lower spatial intelligence, Europeans have higher than the international average in verbal intelligence etc, according if a myriad of studies conducted many in countries.

    How can simply pointing out this general fact and trend make one a racist?! How pathetic.. especially when one speaks of intelligence. I smell political anti-racism (aka selective political racism = RACISM) which is neither logical or scientific. It scoffs at such things.

    My East Asian wife might scoff at your "well known" bobbins and "general facts".

    I smell BS on a grand scale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    old hippy wrote: »
    My East Asian wife might scoff at your "well known" bobbins and "general facts".

    I smell BS on a grand scale.


    Just look it up.

    I'm loving the "Bah, science, what has science ever done for us?" attitude.

    What exactly is the problem? This information does not take away from your position, it just symbolises the diversity of the human condition. You want all humans to be painted and tarred with the same 'one size for all' brush, that's just wrong! Please respect peoples special nature and personalities as a whole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    profitius wrote: »
    I'd never judge a persons intelligence on the colour of their skin. I'm talking about averages if thats not too hard to understand.

    Averages.. that be that damn heretical science stuff.. arggh, down with that sort of thing! Averages is a racist. *thumps chest and howls menacingly*


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Eramen wrote: »
    Just look it up.

    I'm loving the "Bah, science, what has science ever done for us?" attitude.

    What exactly is the problem? This information does not take away from your position, it just symbolises the diversity of the human condition. You want all humans to be painted and tarred with the same 'one size for all' brush, that's just wrong! Please respect peoples special nature and personalities as a whole.

    Links and quotes to where I expressed that sentiment. I do respect different cultures which is why my family is diverse, my travels are diverse, my friends are diverse and the neighbourhood I live in is diverse.

    Pseudo science and bad agendum often go under the guise of "fact", I'd look that up too, if I were you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Eramen wrote: »
    Averages.. that be that damn heretical science stuff.. arggh, down with that sort of thing! Averages is a racist. *thumps chest and howls menacingly*

    Don't be facetious. Science can be twisted to certain agenda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    old hippy wrote: »
    Don't be facetious. Science can be twisted to certain agenda.

    Yes like when the Filipinos conducted an intelligence study with college students in the Philippines between Filipino, Chinese and Indian students which suggested, generally-speaking, that Chinese students demonstrated slightly higher mathematical ability, I believe they said "Ah, gawd, our science be twisted"..

    They really screwed themselves there, eh? :p What I'm getting at is that one can't possibly say that every single studies done was 'twisted', perhaps some had conditions that favoured others, but certainly not all by any stretch of the imagination.

    Bottom line is that this is benefits us as people, as humans, there is isn't anything wrong with everyone being a little different, afterall we all have our things in common too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    There'll always be differences between races, even nationalities. Apparently the Irish aren't that particularly bright as a nation from IQ tests or something. I wouldn't put too much credence into it really.

    Oh, what's an anti racist?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Eramen wrote: »
    ...........

    Anti-racism is just another form of racism.. a person with proper logic and reasoning skills understands this. .........

    Thats lunatic talk. Just so you know.
    Profitus wrote:
    See the problem here is not me avoiding the question. I've said why I cannot answer it.

    ....I've done a search for "I'm scared" and find no results.
    Profitus wrote:
    trying to paint me as a big bad racist nazi skinhead.

    No, no one mentioned size. And skins tend to be upfront about that kind of thing.

    You still haven't clarified your views on the jews, I note.
    Profitus wrote:
    Where did I say that? Fail. .

    So you're gloating over not having the nadgers to say what you believe?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    Nodin wrote: »
    Thats lunatic talk. Just so you know.

    Unfortunately you can not dispel the truth so easily.. calling it names won't work.

    Anti-racists are people who are politically selective in terms of race, which means they are RACIST (even if they display the charade as 'opposing racism'). The only difference is that anti-racists identify the tribe with most of humanity rather than the racists own race which he sees as his tribe. The same racist tribalism is apparent in both.

    Also : Anti-racists identify humanity as the 'human race', identifying this as their 'in-group' versus the 'out-group' (who they term racists, nazis, anti-humanists/human rights, etc). It's the exact same petty tribal racism as the racist, it's one of in-group altruism and out-group agitation.

    1) Why would a person blame immigrants or people who aren't native (if I can use this word) for governmental mismanagement? Answer: Racism

    2) Equally, why would someone blame the native population for governmental mismanagement. Answer: Anti-racist racism.

    You seek to create a Pan-Human race as the superior social and racial value, just as pan Arab, European, and Asian races were popularly attempted to be made the superior value in a similar way in days gone.

    You are anti-racist. You are racist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Eramen wrote: »
    .........

    You seek to create a Pan-Human race as the superior social and racial value, just as pan Arab, European, and Asian races were popularly attempted to be made the superior value in a similar way in days gone.

    .....

    Jaysus, I'm sussed. Your powers impress us greatly.

    Tell me now, am I posting from an underwater HQ, a hollowed out volcanoe, or a hidden crater on the dark side of the moon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    Nodin wrote: »
    Jaysus, I'm sussed. Your powers impress us greatly.

    Tell me now, am I posting from an underwater HQ, a hollowed out volcanoe, or a hidden crater on the dark side of the moon?

    Nah, I just paid a little attention to your previous posts and the fact that you agree with the popular ideology of so-called 'anti-racism'. Doesn't take a genius to see. Dunno, an underwater HQ ??

    Anti-racist racists never have a good response when you call 'em out ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    O, I see the bould profitus is with us. I almost forgot this bit of comedy gold earlier....
    profitius wrote:
    You see thats the problem with some people. They can only see the negative things and not the positive things. I remember stronger communities who looked out for each other, less crime, people behaving in a classier way, less greed and more generosity despite being less well off. We were not bombarded with sex, there were less binge drinking and drug taking and people (most, some are bitter about the past) were just generally happier.

    ......whats that to do with black folk and immigrants?

    As for less "binge drinking"....what period of Irish history are you referring to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Nodin wrote: »
    O, I see the bould profitus is with us. I almost forgot this bit of comedy gold earlier....

    ......whats that to do with black folk and immigrants?

    As for less "binge drinking"....what period of Irish history are you referring to?

    Lol you're a gas man, Nodin! I'm referring to the 80's and early 90's when I was growing up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    Nodin wrote: »
    O, I see the bould profitus is with us. I almost forgot this bit of comedy gold earlier....



    ......whats that to do with black folk and immigrants?

    As for less "binge drinking"....what period of Irish history are you referring to?


    Nodin there is a third way, one against the idiocy of both racism and anti-racism, both of which are now self-serving ideologies used today to dehumanise the person of whatever ethnic background to serve the economic industrial machine under a mercantile-political elite for profit.

    Pro-Identity, pro-Diversity, pro-Cultural, pro-Irish, pro-Humanisation, pro-Nobility - this is the true way. Join us!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    profitius wrote: »
    Lol you're a gas man, Nodin! I'm referring to the 80's and early 90's when I was growing up.

    That was when the Republican campaign was in full swing, people were leaving the country in droves, "cider crazed youths" was a favourite line in the papers, it'd be 5 deep at the bar, you could at last get condoms out of a machine....and the term "binge drinking" hadn't come into usuage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Eramen wrote: »
    Yes like when the Filipinos conducted an intelligence study with college students in the Philippines between Filipino, Chinese and Indian students which suggested, generally-speaking, that Chinese students demonstrated slightly higher mathematical ability, I believe they said "Ah, gawd, our science be twisted"..

    Nothing to do with different educational systems and focuses then, no?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Eramen wrote: »
    Nodin there is a third way, one against the idiocy of both racism and anti-racism, both of which are now self-serving ideologies used today to dehumanise the person of whatever ethnic background to serve the economic industrial machine under a mercantile-political elite for profit.

    Pro-Identity, pro-Diversity, pro-Cultural, pro-Irish, pro-Humanisation, pro-Nobility - this is the true way. Join us!

    I'd rather not join your sick cult, thanks all the same.

    Anti-racism is simply saying I don't like my friends, family or people on the street being shouten abuse at, spat at, stalked or worse.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭no1beemerfan


    Only seeing this thread now. Original clip has been removed....does anyone know if it can be viewed elsewhere?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Only seeing this thread now. Original clip has been removed....does anyone know if it can be viewed elsewhere?

    Think it's on HateTube but it's not pleasant viewing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Only seeing this thread now. Original clip has been removed....does anyone know if it can be viewed elsewhere?

    just typed racism youtube into google, its still there just this one has been taken down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    or here actually, as im nice




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭no1beemerfan


    Jaysus :eek:



    Don't really know what else to say....!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Yeah some set of balls on her eh? surrounded by them and she still stood up for whats right........oh ****, eh, im in the wrong thread hehehehe

    na seriously i just feel sorry for her child, what chance is he going to have like?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭facemelter


    *colonise half the world , gives out about foreigners :rolleyes:


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