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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,357 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Yes and he may well now have permission of the other tenants too. That would put the ownership issue to bed really.
    I dont rate that as a valid application. It doesnt appear to state the use/function of the structure and as such it is pretty impossible for the planning authority to make any declaration as to its status.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,273 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    yop wrote: »
    I think its commonage in which he has a share.

    I'm pretty sure you can't go building on commonage at random unless he got the backing of everyone else with a stake in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Agree with Mickeroo. Huge number in that commonage, many not traceable.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure you can't go building on commonage at random unless he got the backing of everyone else with a stake in it.

    For sure on that, but my comment was in more of a response to the "its not his own lad", in a kinda of a way it is, but its not either at the same time! :D


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,273 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    yop wrote: »
    For sure on that, but my comment was in more of a response to the "its not his own lad", in a kinda of a way it is, but its not either at the same time! :D

    Hah right I get you.:D

    Even if people are just walking on commonage sometimes some of the locals kick up a fuss, I really can't see them being ok with that being built, especially considering theres a known trouble maker around that area who doesn't take kindly to folks using the commonage, though they may not have rights to pollagh hill.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Personally, i think it will be knocked and there will be a huge bill for knocking it and disposing of the rubble.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,273 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    themadchef wrote: »
    Personally, i think it will be knocked and there will be a huge bill for knocking it and disposing of the rubble.

    Agree with that, seems the most likely conclusion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Not sure who will knock it? The court can order mcNamara to knock it but whether or not he does is a different story.

    I can't actually see the council going in and pulling it down. As someone has already indicated the initial problem was with the road access and not the structure.

    The planning process will have to run its course but it is not going to be today or tomorrow that it will be taken down.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,273 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    finisklin wrote: »
    Not sure who will knock it? The court can order mcNamara to knock it but whether or not he does is a different story.

    I can't actually see the council going in and pulling it down. As someone has already indicated the initial problem was with the road access and not the structure.

    The planning process will have to run its course but it is not going to be today or tomorrow that it will be taken down.

    Is that definitely the case? Every news story I read seems to have something different.


  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Vandy West


    Wonder what the response would be if he had built a pre-fab church over the weekend?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Vandy West wrote: »
    Wonder what the response would be if he had built a pre-fab church over the weekend?

    People seem to have a huge horn for this guy at the moment so maybe we'd all be saying the rosary. Hell, i dunno :D!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Vandy West wrote: »
    Wonder what the response would be if he had built a pre-fab church over the weekend?

    Sinead O'connor wouldn't have had to go to Vegas to get married for a start! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Mountjoy Mugger


    She coulda gone kite-surfing for her honeymoon too, with a bit of luck..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Went to the checkout in the local hardware shop and there it was, it all its glory. Full, more than full, signed above and below the lines :confused: A petition: "Save Achill Henge" I kid you not.


    Sometimes i think i need to get out more, some times, im sorry i leave the house :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭teddansonswig


    I go to the area lots, I really think the hole in keel should be sorted first. shows the priorities of MCC are personal. the village is destroyed with the gaping hole.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    themadchef wrote: »
    Went to the checkout in the local hardware shop and there it was, it all its glory. Full, more than full, signed above and below the lines :confused: A petition: "Save Achill Henge" I kid you not.


    Sometimes i think i need to get out more, some times, im sorry i leave the house :D

    surely not in sweeney's , they be more likely to be upset joe didnt get the building materials off them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    the council have sent out a further information request with a request for speed for the reply. I assumed that mr mcnamara lived in achill, but the address on the FI request indicates an address in Salthill Galway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Oldtree wrote: »
    the council have sent out a further information request with a request for speed for the reply. I assumed that mr mcnamara lived in achill, but the address on the FI request indicates an address in Salthill Galway.

    he has houses in both areas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Mayo454


    I really love it hope its kept :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Is it my imagination or what, but have the council removed the section 5 application documents from public view???? The mystery deepens.... ;)
    New application has come up at the front page so that usually means that further docs have been submitted, will have to go and have a look :p


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,273 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Oldtree wrote: »
    Is it my imagination or what, but have the council removed the section 5 application documents from public view???? The mystery deepens.... ;)
    New application has come up at the front page so that usually means that further docs have been submitted, will have to go and have a look :p

    Took a walk up to it at the weekend. A bit bigger than I expected it to be, it's an awful eyesore though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Oldtree wrote: »
    Is it my imagination or what, but have the council removed the section 5 application documents from public view???? The mystery deepens.... ;)
    New application has come up at the front page so that usually means that further docs have been submitted, will have to go and have a look :p


    I'm kinda glad i havent a clue about that stuff or i imagine i'd be on blood pressure meds by now ;)
    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Took a walk up to it at the weekend. A bit bigger than I expected it to be, it's an awful eyesore though.

    Aww i was kinda hoping that on the shortest day of the year we'd have had candle lit vigils, sacrificial lambs :D (couple of Anglo bankers) lined up and alot of shady looking fellas in hooded robes :pac:. Birra criac if nothing else, Island will have a track worn up to it over the New year. Pop into the Head for a hot one on the way home to discuss your views on it.

    Im a bit bah hum bug about the whole thing. Part of me wants him to stick two fingers up to the system but most of me thinks you shouldint just be able to fire up something like that and then look for the planning for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Funny that!! I am on blood pressure meds.... :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭boardsusername


    I like it.
    I like the way it's slowly revealed to you as you go up the track. There's a moment of disbelief when you think you're there & can't find it & then -boom. There it is.
    I like the way it sits in the landscape & not on top of it like a pimple. It feels grounded, as though it's coming up from the earth. But without trying to fake it, as the choice of material demonstrates. Standing it it feels good. It's impressive without being overpowering.
    I'm interested to see what the finished piece will be like. I hope it makes it to the end of it's journey.
    I also think it puts public art pieces to shame with relation to the time things take to get done. (Granted things went at breakneck speed here due to zero paperwork!)

    It's worth a look & then it's worth calling in to Sweeney's at the Sound to sign the petition!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    I like it.
    I like the way it's slowly revealed to you as you go up the track. There's a moment of disbelief when you think you're there & can't find it & then -boom. There it is.
    I like the way it sits in the landscape & not on top of it like a pimple. It feels grounded, as though it's coming up from the earth. But without trying to fake it, as the choice of material demonstrates. Standing it it feels good. It's impressive without being overpowering.
    I'm interested to see what the finished piece will be like. I hope it makes it to the end of it's journey.
    I also think it puts public art pieces to shame with relation to the time things take to get done. (Granted things went at breakneck speed here due to zero paperwork!)

    It's worth a look & then it's worth calling in to Sweeney's at the Sound to sign the petition!

    they have a petition, i been in there a few times over the Christmas and i didnt see one. not that id sign it anyway but.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,273 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I like it.
    I like the way it's slowly revealed to you as you go up the track. There's a moment of disbelief when you think you're there & can't find it & then -boom. There it is.
    I like the way it sits in the landscape & not on top of it like a pimple. It feels grounded, as though it's coming up from the earth. But without trying to fake it, as the choice of material demonstrates. Standing it it feels good. It's impressive without being overpowering.
    I'm interested to see what the finished piece will be like. I hope it makes it to the end of it's journey.
    I also think it puts public art pieces to shame with relation to the time things take to get done. (Granted things went at breakneck speed here due to zero paperwork!)

    It's worth a look & then it's worth calling in to Sweeney's at the Sound to sign the petition!

    Big lumps of pre-cast concrete?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Big lumps of pre-cast concrete?

    :D

    not quite Stonehenge is it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    BLOCKHENGE!?!?!? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭boardsusername


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Big lumps of pre-cast concrete?

    Yep.

    (And the petition is in Sweeney's hardware not the supermarket.)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    shows the priorities of MCC are personal.

    Would have to agree that is what it looks like. The mayo news article this week says this issue back in court on the 31st January. MCC website has a decision on the section 5 application due on the 12th January.

    http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14448:archaeologist-objects-to-achill-henge&catid=23:news&Itemid=46

    Never known them to be so rapidly proactive with an unauthorised development before, NEVER!!!


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