Jeremy Clarkson: Shoot the strikers

B_Fanatic · 01-12-2011 9:00pm

Wow, he is a fool. Although it was clearly a joke it was in no way funny... I mean, it really wasn't funny at all. Personally I think he should be shot. I think we should bring him outside and execute him in front of his family, I mean, how there he make such a horrible joke on public television while the rest of us have to work for a living.

inforfun · 01-12-2011 9:08pm

Latchy wrote: »

Why didn't he say shoot the bankers instead ? Because he knew he would have lost his fcuking job , that's why ...he might still yet .

Pity his columns for The Times cant be accessed anymore because he Clarkson has given bankers a piece of his mind more than once in the recent past.

amacca · 01-12-2011 9:10pm

skelliser wrote: »

care to show us an example.

an example of what?...........weren't you the one that stated 50% of private sector workers did not have pension provision or something?.....that would be my example of being treated like sh1t......at least the percentage of that not comprised of short term temp work, holiday work etc

skelliser wrote: »

your missing the point tho.
PS pension being paid from tax,with an ageing population etc. , is simply not sustainable.

Perhaps...perhaps not, what is your alternative?..............no pension provision for public sector at all......much reduced provision.....public sector to look after their own pension by investing in the private sector?

its hard to miss the point when you are not sure what your alternative is.

skelliser wrote: »

one of the things that has been overlooked in the last ten years was the massive transfer of wealth from the young to the old.
The property bubble was a prime example of this.

I hate to give a my mate told me answer so I wont.......around my locality I know 3 couples who were given a deposit for a house by their parents who are now also helping them make the repayment (I'm fairly confident this is not an isolated incident) + others supporting their out of work offspring etc etc..its seems to me as if its not a one way street of young peoples money going to old people (developers etc aside)......in fact I can see a lot of it going the other way now or alternatively...everyones money going to pay back debts we (a) should not have taken on or (b) should never have been incurred if the system was regulated properly

skelliser wrote: »

im not anti PS or anti old people btw.
Just pointing out the reality of the situation we are in.

plan and simple.

Oh me neither having been part of the public sector for a good long while....I'm not anti private sector either I hasten to add, now being part of it

Realities however are rarely as plain and simple as you paint them...if they were what you have said would be the reality right now

skelliser wrote: »

Ireland is bankrupt.

yes well on that at least we are in full agreement.

John Doe1 · 01-12-2011 9:11pm

The BBC should discipline him by firing sqaud

amacca · 01-12-2011 9:12pm

Everly Mealy Cervix wrote: »

Maybe so, others are even more blinkered in the other direction though. I'm sick of these stupid banker comments being peddled out. Britain has a budget deficit every year, We have a budget deficit of 18 billion or so every year, that is nothing to do with bankers.

the urge to cry over split milk while futile in all likelihood is strong and quite understandable imo

especially when those most responsible for its spilling are not made clean it up or at least get a bit splattered with it and many who bear little responsibility are left mopping it up long after it has turned rancid.

ArtSmart · 01-12-2011 9:13pm

John Doe1 wrote: »

The BBC should discipline him by firing sqaud

Or strap him to a chair and force him to watch Top Gear for months on end.

oh, wait...

Paparazzo · 01-12-2011 9:17pm

Domo230 wrote: »

Clarkson is a legend

The unpopular opinion! But I agree, i think he's hilarious!

Biggins · 01-12-2011 9:20pm

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

The world is turning to shît. Humourless, serially offended, lefty PC twats everywhere. The mediocrity of it all.

Strangely enough, when at 7 in the evening and someone comes on and even jokes about violence, shooting wife and kids in front of each other - I have to say "Hold on a minute, have just a bit of fcukin' kop-on".

There a time and place - and Clarkson is just a gobschite, behaving as he does for self publicity/gain.

Some day he will be walking down the street soon and somebody will walk up to him I suspect and 'land' him one.
He'd get no sympathy from the like of me.

'Legend" my arse!

Paparazzo · 01-12-2011 9:24pm

Biggins wrote: »

Strangely enough, when at 7 in the evening and someone comes on and even jokes about violence, shooting wife and kids in front of each other - I have to say "Hold on a minute, have just a bit of fcukin' kop-on".

There a time and place - and Clarkson is just a gobschite, behaving as he does for self publicity/gain.

Some day he will be walking down the street soon and somebody will walk up to him I suspect and 'land' him one.
He'd get no sympathy from the like of me.

'Legend" my arse!

I'm shocked! I reckon I've agreed with every opinion from Biggins on after hours in the last year :eek:

Isn't it on the same time as the likes of eastenders? They actually show people getting shot in that. The news is on at 6, that's far worse? This was just a joke. Simple as.

The problem I have with it, if you're going to dissect every comment every comedian ever makes and take it literal, there's very little you can say. Lighten up!

amacca · 01-12-2011 9:28pm

Biggins wrote: »

Strangely enough, when at 7 in the evening and someone comes on and even jokes about violence, shooting wife and kids in front of each other - I have to say "Hold on a minute, have just a bit of fcukin' kop-on".

There a time and place - and Clarkson is just a gobschite, behaving as he does for self publicity/gain.

Some day he will be walking down the street soon and somebody will walk up to him I suspect and 'land' him one.
He'd get no sympathy from the like of me.

'Legend" my arse!

ah feck it....if everyone was the same the world would be a very boring place (definitely around 7 in the evening)

at least he stirs it up and gives people something to talk about...I quite like him on Top Gear.......and the other two goons as well.

ascanbe · 01-12-2011 9:34pm

Everly Mealy Cervix wrote: »

Maybe so, others are even more blinkered in the other direction though. I'm sick of these stupid banker comments being peddled out. Britain has a budget deficit every year, We have a budget deficit of 18 billion or so every year, that is nothing to do with bankers.

The financial quagmire we are currently in, the fact that we cannot borrow from the markets and have been rail-roaded into this so-called 'bail-out', has everything to the with the 'bank-guarantee' and, by extension, bankers.

skelliser · 01-12-2011 9:36pm

amacca wrote: »

an example of what?...........weren't you the one that stated 50% of private sector workers did not have pension provision or something?.....that would be my example of being treated like sh1t......at least the percentage of that not comprised of short term temp work, holiday work etc

Perhaps...perhaps not, what is your alternative?..............no pension provision for public sector at all......much reduced provision.....public sector to look after their own pension by investing in the private sector?

its hard to miss the point when you are not sure what your alternative is.

I hate to give a my mate told me answer so I wont.......around my locality I know 3 couples who were given a deposit for a house by their parents who are now also helping them make the repayment (I'm fairly confident this is not an isolated incident) + others supporting their out of work offspring etc etc..its seems to me as if its not a one way street of young peoples money going to old people (developers etc aside)......in fact I can see a lot of it going the other way now or alternatively...everyones money going to pay back debts we (a) should not have taken on or (b) should never have been incurred if the system was regulated properly

Oh me neither having been part of the public sector for a good long while....I'm not anti private sector either I hasten to add, now being part of it

Realities however are rarely as plain and simple as you paint them...if they were what you have said would be the reality right now

yes well on that at least we are in full agreement.

well imo for too long we have been pandering for short term gain and ignoring the long term sustainability of ireland and the western world as a whole.
And our politicians, in particular FF, have been more then happy to give us this.

Policies which Bertie in particular pushed post 2003 are now coming home to roost. See this is the thing with politicians. The vast majority know what the right thing to do is but the problem is how to get re-elected after they do it!

orourkeda · 01-12-2011 9:36pm

Why was he even asked for his opinion? Who Cares?

ArtSmart · 01-12-2011 9:38pm

orourkeda wrote: »

Why was he even asked for his opinion? Who Cares?

Dont think Jeremy needs to be asked for his opinion.

amacachi · 01-12-2011 9:39pm

Biggins wrote: »

Strangely enough, when at 7 in the evening and someone comes on and even jokes about violence, shooting wife and kids in front of each other - I have to say "Hold on a minute, have just a bit of fcukin' kop-on".

There a time and place - and Clarkson is just a gobschite, behaving as he does for self publicity/gain.

Some day he will be walking down the street soon and somebody will walk up to him I suspect and 'land' him one.
He'd get no sympathy from the like of me.

'Legend" my arse!

Weren't watching Emmerdale at 7 o'clock tonight I assume. Girl gave birth alone in a graveyard and thought the baby was dead so dumped it in a telephone box, I'd find that worse than one throw-away comment that was obviously not meant to be taken seriously.

orourkeda · 01-12-2011 9:43pm

ArtSmart wrote: »

Dont think Jeremy needs to be asked for his opinion.

True enough

4zn76tysfajdxp · 01-12-2011 9:48pm

Biggins wrote: »

Strangely enough, when at 7 in the evening and someone comes on and even jokes about violence, shooting wife and kids in front of each other - I have to say "Hold on a minute, have just a bit of fcukin' kop-on".

There a time and place - and Clarkson is just a gobschite, behaving as he does for self publicity/gain.

Some day he will be walking down the street soon and somebody will walk up to him I suspect and 'land' him one.
He'd get no sympathy from the like of me.

'Legend" my arse!

Wait a second here. He apparently joked about violence and you find that reprehensible yet if somebody actually commited an act of violence towards him that wouldn't be so bad? Is that not a bit contradictory?

amacachi · 01-12-2011 9:51pm

Javier Eager Spaciousness wrote: »

Wait a second here. He apparently joked about violence and you find that reprehensible yet if somebody actually commited an act of violence towards him that wouldn't be so bad? Is that not a bit contradictory?

"A punch isn't as bad as shooting hundreds of thousands of people."

Jazzzman · 01-12-2011 9:56pm

Jeremy Clarkson is the voice of the 21st centuries thinking man.

He's bold, he's brass and he doesn't give a **** if you don't like it.

He's a proper bloke, and all those cretins in the Union are fearful of him and men like him.

Typical that they're up in arms about it.

Time wasters.

Keep it up Jezza!

RoryMac · 01-12-2011 10:00pm

Not a fan of him myself, he's always been a loud mouthed publicity seeker and it has helped further his own career so can't have too many complaints if this eventually leads to his downfall.

The media love taking his type down and they smell blood now.

ArtSmart · 01-12-2011 10:01pm

Jazzzman wrote: »

Jeremy Clarkson is the voice of the 21st centuries thinking man.

He's bold, he's brass and he doesn't give a **** if you don't like it.

He's a proper bloke, and all those cretins in the Union are fearful of him and men like him.

Typical that they're up in arms about it.

Time wasters.

Keep it up Jezza!

wannabe

Jazzzman · 01-12-2011 10:05pm

ArtSmart wrote: »

wannabe

what's that pal?

Vadge · 01-12-2011 10:06pm

Not sure if this was posted, but heres a fantastic article from Steve Coogan regarding certain remarks made by the stooges on the asinine Top Gear

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/feb/05/top-gear-offensive-steve-coogan

....and he is absolutely spot-on in that piece. I wish Clarkson to be scalped live on his own piece of **** show, overthrown by armies of Top Gear haters, and then shot in the stomach with balls of his own **** until he dies from internal bleeding. The smug ****

amacachi · 01-12-2011 10:08pm

Vadge wrote: »

I wish Clarkson to be scalped live on his own piece of **** show, overthrown by armies of Top Gear haters, and then shot in the stomach with balls of his own **** until he dies from internal bleeding. The smug ****

What's it like up there on the moral highground?

amacca · 01-12-2011 10:10pm

skelliser wrote: »

well imo for too long we have been pandering for short term gain and ignoring the long term sustainability of ireland and the western world as a whole.

hear hear..........couldn't agree more...its not going to change overnight though.

skelliser wrote: »

Policies which Bertie in particular pushed post 2003 are now coming home to roost. See this is the thing with politicians. The vast majority know what the right thing to do is but the problem is how to get re-elected after they do it!

thats a problem with the electorate too (a majority of of them are greedy and short sighted and just plain stupid also)...so are you saying that the public service was unsustainable pre 2003?

if not then why cant it return (over time) to a situation similar to what it was in pre 2003

4zn76tysfajdxp · 01-12-2011 10:10pm

Jazzzman wrote: »

Jeremy Clarkson is the voice of the 21st centuries thinking man.

He's bold, he's brass and he doesn't give a **** if you don't like it.

He's a proper bloke, and all those cretins in the Union are fearful of him and men like him.

Typical that they're up in arms about it.

Time wasters.

Keep it up Jezza!

Proper bloke? Are you mad? He's a former private school school student turned millionaire TV presenter and expensive car collector. Hardly a salt of the earth grease monkey or builder.

ArtSmart · 01-12-2011 10:11pm

Jazzzman wrote: »

what's that pal?

you heard me, pal.

Howjoe1 · 01-12-2011 10:12pm

saw it live.. don't like the guy but i only took it as a joke.

ott pc again

ArtSmart · 01-12-2011 10:13pm

amacachi wrote: »

What's it like up there on the moral highground?

kinda quiet i'd say.

but replace the word Mexican with Irish, and re-read it.

how'd that work for you?

Biggins · 01-12-2011 10:15pm

amacca wrote: »

ah feck it....if everyone was the same the world would be a very boring place (definitely around 7 in the evening)

at least he stirs it up and gives people something to talk about...I quite like him on Top Gear.......and the other two goons as well.

There no problem sometimes with stirring things if it creates advantageous outcome debate - but as I mentioned, for all things there is a time and place.

Clarkson being the fool that he is should have picked a better later slot and/or place. Thats all.

ArtSmart · 01-12-2011 10:15pm

Javier Eager Spaciousness wrote: »

Proper bloke? Are you mad? He's a former private school school student turned millionaire TV presenter and expensive car collector. Hardly a salt of the earth grease monkey or builder.

he's a dyed-in-the-wool tory boot boy.

which is a 'proper bloke'

a right proper one at that

amacachi · 01-12-2011 10:16pm

ArtSmart wrote: »

kinda quiet i'd say.

but replace the word Mexican with Irish, and re-read it.

how'd that work for you?

I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be keen to see someone scalped for it and then shot in the stomach with balls of his own **** until he died of internal bleeding. I'm assuming here obviously.

CamperMan · 01-12-2011 10:17pm

Jeremy Clarkson should be the leader of the government!

ArtSmart · 01-12-2011 10:18pm

amacachi wrote: »

I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be keen to see someone scalped for it and then shot in the stomach with balls of his own **** until he died of internal bleeding. I'm assuming here obviously.

fair nuff.

one could use dog poop instead i suppose.

Biggins · 01-12-2011 10:23pm

Javier Eager Spaciousness wrote: »

Wait a second here. He apparently joked about violence and you find that reprehensible yet if somebody actually commited an act of violence towards him that wouldn't be so bad? Is that not a bit contradictory?

I wouldn't want violence to happen to him. I wouldn't do it myself. I didn't say "it wouldn't be so bad" either.
I alluded to if something like that happened - 1. it would come as no surprise and 2. while condemning any violence, see that he was reaping what he sowed somewhat - and for his words/actions I would have little feeling to him if there was a reaction, There's a subtle difference.
If one is stupid to keep saying the wrong things (for whatever reason), sooner or later there might be a backlash.

Jazzzman · 01-12-2011 10:23pm

ArtSmart wrote: »

you heard me, pal.

what's that pal?

Ally Dick · 01-12-2011 10:52pm

Clarkson is given so much leeway with Top Gear that he thinks he can say anything he likes when a microphone is put in his face. He needs to have his wings clipped

Alessandra · 01-12-2011 10:54pm

Exactly what you could expect from the likes of Clarkson who is very much out of touch with what the average PS worker in the UK earns.

He neednt worry about a pension when he is a journalist and presenter. He strikes me as the Pat Kenny of broadcasting in the BBC. Happy to cream in the big money for feck all work. Ready to vilify average Joe.

I'm not daft and realise he must have been stirring it but what he has said must have had an element of conviction.

amacca · 01-12-2011 10:58pm

Biggins wrote: »

There no problem sometimes with stirring things if it creates advantageous outcome debate - but as I mentioned, for all things there is a time and place.

that time and place is entirely subjective and subject to change over time though isn't it?

(a "lady" wouldn't have worn a swimsuit much above the knee on a beach in the states during the 20s whereas it would be OK as a white person to expect that you wouldn't have to share a seat with an "african american" on a bus/train etc during the same period - bit of a reversal there for the most part)

whats acceptable to you..or what you've been conditioned to accept may not be the same for others.

if we all agreed that you cant make certain statements before a certain time or at all and then actually stuck to them there would be no variety...we constantly set limits of whats acceptable and not acceptable...the majority sticks with them for a while and some push the envelope and the norm becomes a thing of the past etc before new boundaries are established or old ones re-established

I do agree though really...it was probably not the best chosen of opinions to express particularly when it will be taken out of context but it certainly generates more entertainment/comment than the plain vanilla 110% percent bobs your uncle tripe and being controversial (or simply a twat) is his stock and trade after all.

he can be an entertaining twat at times imo...hes definitely got us talking about him....

Biggins · 01-12-2011 11:04pm

amacca wrote: »

...he can be an entertaining twat at times imo...hes definitely got us talking about him....

Which probably was his partial objective.
Has he got a book or video, etc, coming out for Christmas?
(Genuinely don't know myself)

Jazzzman · 01-12-2011 11:04pm

Alessandra wrote: »

Exactly what you could expect from the likes of Clarkson who is very much out of touch with what the average PS worker in the UK earns.

He neednt worry about a pension when he is a journalist and presenter. He strikes me as the Pat Kenny of broadcasting in the BBC. Happy to cream in the big money for feck all work. Ready to vilify average Joe.

I'm not daft and realise he must have been stirring it but what he has said must have had an element of conviction.

Pat Kenny has done a morning radio show for decades and television work on top of that.

I'd wager that he works harder than most people on this board.

but hey, it's cool to hate on Pat Kenny, so off you go.

01-12-2011 11:06pm

ascanbe wrote: »

The financial quagmire we are currently in, the fact that we cannot borrow from the markets and have been rail-roaded into this so-called 'bail-out', has everything to the with the 'bank-guarantee' and, by extension, bankers.

Correct in part but there seems to be a presumption by the man on the street that had it not been for these bankers we wouldn't have any cuts. The whole of the western world is cleaning up their book and that includes us. This pain would have to be endured regardless.

John the lender wont lend Linda 100 quid if she earns 5 grand a year and spends 10 and then proceeds to make no reduction in her household budget. Why would he?
Chances are he wont get his money back, the bond market is no different, if anything they force the inevitable.

amacca · 01-12-2011 11:08pm

Biggins wrote: »

Which probably was his partial objective.
Has he got a book or video, etc, coming out for Christmas?
(Genuinely don't know myself)

don't know myself...presume he does and presume its overpriced and something to do with depressingly expensive cars or taking the piss out of ze germans or something.

If that was my business plan I'd by trying to coin it every Christmas I could.

Alessandra · 01-12-2011 11:11pm

Jazzzman wrote: »

Pat Kenny has done a morning radio show for decades and television work on top of that.

I'd wager that he works harder than most people on this board.

but hey, it's cool to hate on Pat Kenny, so off you go.

I'll not dispute his work ethic, I do however take exception to your perception that I am disliking someone as it's popular to do so. Kenny has frequently made his stance on PS workers, and I am ad odds with these opinions.

I do acknowledge that Kenny is of a superior stature in terms of length of service and quality of broadcasting to some degree.
My analogy was merely that as I believe a certain comparison may be drawn

Scruffles · 01-12-2011 11:14pm

Latchy wrote: »

He's got a dvd out to so it all makes sense .

jeremy clarkson is always spouting something or other that kicks up a fuss,probably just a coincidence about having a book out,not remember another huge contreversial comment he and the others on top gear made this year? it made him public enemy number one in mexico.

he is like a troll IRL,it gets him a big reaction and its all part of his public image.
anyone who watches top gear will know he isnt the serious type,he took the p out of southern americans in one special episode of top gear when they were all cruising down there,he deliberately had the team write messages on the sides of their cars which the southerners may find offensive and as a result they had rocks thrown at them, were threatened...typical clarkson,same as when he takes the p out of caravan drivers/towers and he got a load of BS off them for it.

Jazzzman · 01-12-2011 11:16pm

Alessandra wrote: »

I'll not dispute his work ethic, I do however take exception to your perception that I am disliking someone as it's popular to do so. Kenny has frequently made his stance on PS workers, and I am ad odds with these opinions.

I do acknowledge that Kenny is of a superior stature in terms of length of service and quality of broadcasting to some degree.
My analogy was merely that as I believe a certain comparison may be drawn

lets be frank - you're analogy was awful