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USB Saorview receiver ($7.40 delivered)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Rockn


    @slikvik That's strange. My driver is signed. Seems to the same one, file size and everything.
    it9135.jpg

    I'll attach it here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 slikvik


    I've just installed your version and it is indeed signed! Final piece of the puzzle solved. Cheers.

    On further investigation it seems that the catalog for yours is different to mine (and possibly others here). The certificate contained within the catalog is identical (and working) but it's the catalog that makes sure that the driver file is a match.

    Anyway, to anyone still having problems, use the driver that Rockn has kindly provided, use my instructions (steps 1-4) if you get stuck, and make sure you use a proper aerial.

    In answer to your aerial question Vertakill, I simply unscrewed the antenna from the aerial (may only be possible on my model) and temporarily taped my main aerial cable to it. :P

    Kind Regards

    Slikvik


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 thephantom1


    cheers for the alert. can't pass this one up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Danger_dave1


    Hi Just read your post about signed drivers for win 7 64 bit as i have win 7 32 bit would really appreciate it if you could post the signed win 7 32 drivers

    Kind Regards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,629 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Right... I'm ready to fire the thing out the wiondow... Using a HP Pavillion db6 with windows 7 64bit and nothing on this thread has helped... Any suggestions or should I give it away to somebody who needs a paperweight? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭moonboy52


    I installed Rockn's driver. We have lift-off on my win7 x64 machine finally! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Rockn


    Rockn wrote: »
    On my computer, when I scan on the correct frequency with BlazeDTV I get 100% signal strength and 10% quality and 0 channels found. I got one of these and tried with rabbit ears but that didn't help at all. I guess my problem is just a poor signal at the back of the house where my computer is.
    Found an old signal booster (one of these) and can finally get channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Nollog


    I done bought the antenna from aldi a week or two back.
    I need to have it positioned on it's side, but I get a pretty good signal.
    Finally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Right... I'm ready to fire the thing out the wiondow... Using a HP Pavillion db6 with windows 7 64bit and nothing on this thread has helped... Any suggestions or should I give it away to somebody who needs a paperweight? :p

    Any time ye want to throw it my way I will catch :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Vertakill


    I'm pretty sure half of us having so many problems with these pieces of sh!t just have bad reception which would be rectified with a proper antenna.

    Where do I get one of those antenna's linked anyways (are aldi still selling them?) ? I don't even want it that much anymore (I have Sky) but I just want to 'beat' it as it's beaten me so far as I can't get a single channel.. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    Vertakill wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure half of us having so many problems with these pieces of sh!t just have bad reception which would be rectified with a proper antenna.

    Where do I get one of those yokes linked anyways? I don't even want it that much anymore (I have Sky) but I just want to 'beat' it as it's beaten me so far as I can't get a single channel.. :)

    Beaten by an antenna... leave your IT skills at the door! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Cranium


    Works now on my: Dell Latitude E6510(64bit) running Windows 7 (intel core i7) using Rockn's uploaded driver zip-file & slikvik's instructions.

    Cheers folks! :D
    slikvik wrote: »
    I've just installed your version and it is indeed signed! Final piece of the puzzle solved. Cheers.

    On further investigation it seems that the catalog for yours is different to mine (and possibly others here). The certificate contained within the catalog is identical (and working) but it's the catalog that makes sure that the driver file is a match.

    Anyway, to anyone still having problems, use the driver that Rockn has kindly provided, use my instructions (steps 1-4) if you get stuck, and make sure you use a proper aerial.

    In answer to your aerial question Vertakill, I simply unscrewed the antenna from the aerial (may only be possible on my model) and temporarily taped my main aerial cable to it. :P

    Kind Regards

    Slikvik


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭robbie99


    Working for me too!

    Dell Latitude 6410 Core i5 64 bit Windows 7

    Used Rockn's driver. Thanks all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    I seem to have got the driver installed, it's scanning at the minute but seems to be taking ages, is that normal? The aerial is fairly tiny for Donegal tv-use, which might be the problem. It's got to 10% after about 10 minutes there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭moonboy52


    TPD wrote: »
    I seem to have got the driver installed, it's scanning at the minute but seems to be taking ages, is that normal? The aerial is fairly tiny for Donegal tv-use, which might be the problem. It's got to 10% after about 10 minutes there.


    There is either bad reception in your area or the driver is not installed properly / wrong version of it. Did you try the driver posted a few posts back?

    It was working great for me in Waterford City. I am in the heart of Wexford (Ballymurn) right now and the little aerial picked up all Saorview channels within 10 minutes. I was well surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,618 ✭✭✭milltown


    Anybody tried one with a mac?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    moonboy52 wrote: »
    There is either bad reception in your area or the driver is not installed properly / wrong version of it. Did you try the driver posted a few posts back?

    It was working great for me in Waterford City. I am in the heart of Wexford (Ballymurn) right now and the little aerial picked up all Saorview channels within 10 minutes. I was well surprised.

    Cheers, got that driver installed now, searching complete in a few minutes. Finding no channels here though, will try a few different areas and a different aerial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭moonboy52


    oldguysrip wrote: »
    My one worked in windows 7 home premium right out of the box, i selected ignore when the errors came up. The issue I had was trying to source the connectors from standard co-ax to the mini version. I ordered a bunch of them and it works fine now.

    I have a few connectors left if anyone wants them. €10 incl P&P pm me if you want one.

    How much did you buy them for? If i wanted one i could buy one for €1.74 incl P&P on ebay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭BionicRasher


    Used Rockn's drivers also

    works great now now on Win7 64bit - Asus EB1501P (Nettop with Intel Atom and Nvidia Ion)

    I use a small indoor antenna and it can be a little flakey depending on the weather (antenna works great with my TV for Saorview 99% of the time but it only works 75% of the time with this USB stick - must get it hooked up to roof antenna soon)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 mutunas


    does anyone get it work on windows 7 32 bit?
    it works ok with the driver 11.10 on win7 64bit but can't find any drivers for win7 32bit.

    any help?

    thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭costin


    Lads in order to get a signal boost stick the antenna on the radiator (has a magnet so it won't fall).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭norbert64


    Another option perhaps?
    http://www.sunsky-online.com/product/default!view.do?subject.id=7232

    The ones like in the OP have that mini aerial adapter thing which can be quite flimsy/loose at times.

    The one above is a straight plug in adapter.

    Mind you, what are sunsky like as a company/seller? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭norbert64


    Getting back to the Op, she shows up as

    Winfast DTV Dongle Gold BDA in Windows 7 and Xp SP3 for me.

    For the latter here is the driver you need
    http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/QBCO0J3N/DriversForYou.zip_links

    Extract all files, plug in the dongle and follow this manual driver install guide
    http://www.hyundaiit.com/images/download/Monitor_Driver_Setup_en.pdf

    Point the HAVE Disk search towards AF15BDA.inf inside my driver folder and click OK. Should ask you to restart your PC and voila, your dongle is ready to roll.

    Btw, have the dongle working perfectly using this indoor aerial (currently avilable in Lidl)
    http://www.adverts.ie/other-electronics/indoor-aerial-dvb-t/341824


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Cranium


    Hi Mutunas,

    Any joy locating a Win 7 32 bit driver ?
    I could use a Win 7 32-bit AMD driver if anyone has found the like anywhere.
    I found what is apparently 64-bit AMD Win 7 on MS's web site but no good it refused to install, then I realised the laptop was 32-bit.

    thanks,

    Cranium
    mutunas wrote: »
    does anyone get it work on windows 7 32 bit?
    it works ok with the driver 11.10 on win7 64bit but can't find any drivers for win7 32bit.

    any help?

    thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭WHL


    Just to say a big thank you to rockn and slikvik. I bought two of these a few weeks ago but only installed in the last few days. I had the driver issues on my Windows 7 64 bit laptop. I read back through the thread and installed rockn's driver with slikvik's instructions and it is working now.

    Just as a follow on, I nearly have line-of-sight on the Collins Barrack's transmitter and I am probably about 5-6 miles from it. I have to be careful where I locate the antenna indoors. If people have correctly installed the drivers and are finding nothing on the scan it is probably antenna related. If you are mobile with a laptop maybe get up high and closer to your transmitter and see if it makes a difference. At least it will identify the problem


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Rockn


    32 bit drivers here:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭norbert64


    Quick update on sunsky.
    Ordered and purchased the wandtv stick. Delivered in 9 days.
    Installed and working great for ''Saorview''

    Still waiting for buyincoins, although I guess I did purchase 4 other things so maybe that's why it is taking longer. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,810 ✭✭✭take everything


    Lads if someone gets this to work for me i'll be eternally grateful.
    I've done everything in this thread- got the driver that Rockn posted and followed the steps 1 through 4 posted above.
    I'm using Windows 7 (64 bit).
    Same thing every time.: It seems to recognise the device, scans for about 5-10 mins, then says no channels found. :mad:
    I've attached the antenna to radiators, biscuit tins etc.
    No luck. :mad:

    Help, please. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭norbert64


    Lads if someone gets this to work for me i'll be eternally grateful.
    I've done everything in this thread - got the driver that Rockn posted and followed the steps 1 through 4 posted above.

    I'm using Windows 7 (64 bit).

    Same thing every time.: It seems to recognize the device, scans for about 5-10 mins, then says no channels found. :mad:

    I've attached the antenna to radiators, biscuit tins etc.

    No luck. :mad:
    Help, please. :pac:
    You mean the little antenna that came with it?

    You could be in a bad signal area that requires something more substantial.
    Would you have a roof aerial, or some rabbit ears to double check things. ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Learn to understand the difference bewteen Vertical and Horizontal signals and check your transmitter off the list below.

    Half of all aerials work best on 'their sides' , eg Collins in Cork and Tonabrocky in Galway are Vertical but 3Rock and Woodcock are horizontal! This one is Horizontal and the tip should point at the transmitter while the flat panels are for the back. That is not an indoor, I know. :D

    http://www.techtir.ie/tv-radio/Irish-DTT-Sites

    Rabbit ears are VHF, probably won't work. They would for RTE (not TG4) on analogue.

    Get something more directional like a Loop aerial or this Lava model below where the double loop is shown vertical and the mesh should be on the far side away from the transmitter.

    IMG_0616.jpg

    Finally you may find a building bounces the signal strongly, eg an office block with 'metallic' coated windows.

    Read this if you need more.

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1037779


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,810 ✭✭✭take everything


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Learn to understand the difference bewteen Vertical and Horizontal signals and check your transmitter off the list below.

    Half of all aerials work best on 'their sides' , eg Collins in Cork and Tonabrocky in Galway are Vertical but 3Rock and Woodcock are horizontal! This one is Horizontal and the tip should point at the transmitter while the flat panels are for the back. That is not an indoor, I know. :D

    http://www.techtir.ie/tv-radio/Irish-DTT-Sites

    Rabbit ears are VHF, probably won't work. They would for RTE (not TG4) on analogue.

    Get something more directional like a Loop aerial or this Lava model below where the double loop is shown vertical and the mesh should be on the far side away from the transmitter.

    IMG_0616.jpg

    Finally you may find a building bounces the signal strongly, eg an office block with 'metallic' coated windows.

    Read this if you need more.

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1037779

    Thanks.
    Couple of questions.
    1. Does the antenna need a clear line of sight to the transmitter.
    2. How would you go about attaching this particular antenna to a bigger aerial (the antenna screws off but there's no obvious way of attaching a bigger aerial to it that i can see). Or is there some way you attach a bigger aerial to the actual DVB-T receiver itself.
    3. Also, is there more chance of picking something up sticking the antenna to metal (biscuit tin, radiator etc).

    Apologies if these seem dumb.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Put the antenna inside a biscuit tin perhaps with the mouth open facing transmitter. See link at bottom or my post and read.

    The sticks come with an MCX Connector so you need this below to connect to an aerial or the smaller MMCX connector, read the spec and see which.

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/RF-Coaxial-MCX-TV-Antenna-Cable-Adaptor-DVB-T-DVBT-/180550379298?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a09a42722


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 mutunas


    Rockn wrote: »
    32 bit drivers here:


    thanks mate. this did the job :):):):):):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 mutunas


    Lads if someone gets this to work for me i'll be eternally grateful.
    I've done everything in this thread- got the driver that Rockn posted and followed the steps 1 through 4 posted above.
    I'm using Windows 7 (64 bit).
    Same thing every time.: It seems to recognise the device, scans for about 5-10 mins, then says no channels found. :mad:
    I've attached the antenna to radiators, biscuit tins etc.
    No luck. :mad:

    Help, please. :pac:

    when tried to install it in my home pc (win7 64bit), had the same issue: recognised ok and then scanning channels very slowly.
    this is an indication of bad drivers.
    I downloaded and installed rockn's drivers, installed them manually through control panel and then everything ok.

    if you have problem with antenna signal, why don't try to search the channels with an external antenna (use it only for the first scanning), and after scanning is done, try to see if you can use these indoor antennas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭mrhappy42


    Getting the “USB 2.0 Digital DVB-T HDTV TV Tuner Recorder & Receiver” working.
    It looks like

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170615508474&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160

    When you plug in the USB into Windows 7 64bit it installs a winfast driver. You need to remove this driver if it was installed. Ignore the CD.

    Then use the zip file in this tread in the attached zip and run the exe.

    After that when you plug in the USB stick you will see in the device manager in the section ‘sound, video and game controllers’ a driver called 'IT9135 BDA Device'. In this section you should not see the winfast driver. Note this will only appear with the USB plugged in.

    When you unplug the USB the list in the device manager will refresh and the driver will not show. This was an indication for me that the device was doing something.

    I then downloaded PROG DVB 6 which is a free app for tuning in tv cards. It can be found here http://www.progdvb.com/download_progdvb.html.

    When I scanned I got nothing. However I did see the blue led flash quickly now and then. This means that its finding a single but its poor quality.

    If you get this far and the whole scan is quick, a few minutes and plugging different arials in shows a blue led now and again. Its all good you just need bigger arial.

    Thanks to all for your help.

    - ps. VLC works as well but is harder to setup as you have to figure our your frequence and down the country line of sight etc. is a hurdle. Windows media centre is blocked on my work laptop :-(.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭styron


    mrhappy42 wrote: »
    - ps. VLC works as well but is harder to setup as you have to figure our your frequence and down the country line of sight etc. is a hurdle. Windows media centre is blocked on my work laptop :-(.

    The transmitter frequency listings are here (eg. Three Rock = 738000 KHz):

    http://www.mpeg4ireland.com/dtt-muxes#mapping

    Plug in the USB DVB-T card
    VLC Menu: Media -> Open Capture Device (or Ctrl+C)
    From Capture Mode select TV Digital in the drop down list
    Ensure the DVB-T radio button is selected (latest version defaults to it)
    Enter the appropriate Transponder/Mux Frequency and click Play
    From the Menu Playback -> Program should give you (hopefully) the full list of TV and DAB Radio stations if your aerial arrangement is kosher.

    *A cheap USB extension lead gives a little extra flexibility for positioning the aerial setup and/or easy switching of the card between different systems.

    *When not in use unplug the card - it can get quite warm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 SP534


    Can someone tell me, is this a dual or single tuner device? That is, can I record from 3e while I watch RTÉ Two etc? Or am I limited to one or the other?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    SP534 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me, is this a dual or single tuner device? That is, can I record from 3e while I watch RTÉ Two etc? Or am I limited to one or the other?

    Lol, at this price?
    Its a cheap single tuner......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    SP534 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me, is this a dual or single tuner device? That is, can I record from 3e while I watch RTÉ Two etc? Or am I limited to one or the other?

    Single tuner .

    You can watch or record all the channels (17) on the one mux if you have the correct software and the PC is good enough.

    As it is single tuner you will only be able to tune in one mux at the time.

    Most software will only allow you to see one channel .... but that is a limitation of the software, not the device.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭theroomisonfire


    Hi

    If I want to connect the usb adapter to an external tv aerial, is there a special adapter required to connect the cable of the aerial to the usb adapter as the socket on the usb adapter seems a little smaller than that required for a normal aerial.

    Also, does anyone have a recommendation for an adapter?

    Many thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭norbert64


    Hi

    If I want to connect the usb adapter to an external tv aerial, is there a special adapter required to connect the cable of the aerial to the usb adapter as the socket on the usb adapter seems a little smaller than that required for a normal aerial.

    Also, does anyone have a recommendation for an adapter?

    Many thanks
    You need one of these
    http://www.scanstation.co.uk/computers-c35/accessories-c223/rf-to-mcx-antenna-cable-adapter-for-usb-tv-dvb-t-tuner-p1640
    or these
    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/428030378/RF_connector_Coaxial_connector_MCX_connector.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭breathn


    Any of these devices work on a mac?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Rockn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    breathn wrote: »
    Any of these devices work on a mac?

    I have seen one mentioned as working on a MAC ...... don't recall which one :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Rockn wrote: »
    @slikvik That's strange. My driver is signed. Seems to the same one, file size and everything.
    it9135.jpg

    I'll attach it here.
    Rockn you legend, finally got this working with your driver, this was about my 20th attempt with every driver going but it finally worked so thanks a million, this is a big plus for me when Im out in the middle of nowhere in South Galway every weekend.

    Just tried it there with the tiny aerial that comes with it and its as perfect as the first time I got it working with the adapter and the roof aerial so in my opinion because of the weak signal area I'm in, anyone who cant get it working with the small magnetic aerial is having driver issues not reception problems.

    BlazeTV is a piece of crap and I couldn't get it working in VLC player either but Windows Media Centre is absolutely perfect, recording/pause/rewind/tv guide/all Saorview channels all working fine, this is in Windows 7 64 bit.

    Cant believe how well its working now, this was around my 20th attempt and your driver (IT9135 BDA device in Device Manager) was the first and only time Id ever seen a blue light or any light on the device. One thing I will say is that this is that it only works after a reboot after installing the driver.

    Anyway all working now so thanks a million!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    styron wrote: »
    The transmitter frequency listings are here (eg. Three Rock = 738000 KHz):

    http://www.mpeg4ireland.com/dtt-muxes#mapping

    Plug in the USB DVB-T card
    VLC Menu: Media -> Open Capture Device (or Ctrl+C)
    From Capture Mode select TV Digital in the drop down list
    Ensure the DVB-T radio button is selected (latest version defaults to it)
    Enter the appropriate Transponder/Mux Frequency and click Play
    From the Menu Playback -> Program should give you (hopefully) the full list of TV and DAB Radio stations if your aerial arrangement is kosher.

    *A cheap USB extension lead gives a little extra flexibility for positioning the aerial setup and/or easy switching of the card between different systems.

    *When not in use unplug the card - it can get quite warm.


    **Edit** I was wrong i had the last version and installed the new one over it by check for updates but that didnt install properly initially** Working grand now thanks!


    This option isnt listed for me?. Ive downloaded the latest version of VLC too. Any ideas?.

    293fzeo.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    2 questions, any help appreciated please:

    1. Has anyone got the remote control working yet?

    2. Has anyone got any decent alternative software for it? VLC is a pain in the ass because you have to put in the frequency and scan every time, also no guide and changing channels is a pain having to open the dropdown menu. Windows Media Centre is also really annoying, the buttons for changing channel disappear if you shrink the window size down.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    2 questions, any help appreciated please:

    1. Has anyone got the remote control working yet?

    2. Has anyone got any decent alternative software for it? VLC is a pain in the ass because you have to put in the frequency and scan every time, also no guide and changing channels is a pain having to open the dropdown menu. Windows Media Centre is also really annoying, the buttons for changing channel disappear if you shrink the window size down.

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭BionicRasher


    Thargor wrote: »
    2 questions, any help appreciated please:

    1. Has anyone got the remote control working yet?

    2. Has anyone got any decent alternative software for it? VLC is a pain in the ass because you have to put in the frequency and scan every time, also no guide and changing channels is a pain having to open the dropdown menu. Windows Media Centre is also really annoying, the buttons for changing channel disappear if you shrink the window size down.

    Thanks.

    Windows Media Centre working perfectly for me in full size and minimized windows and on an Xbox as an extender
    Its actually a joy to use in WMC I find


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