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The Bank having their Xmas Party tonight...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭35notout


    Hey Jazzman - I left a pile of Troll Cookies outside for you, they should keep you going for a while............


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    I'm sorry that you have such crappy christmas parties, but the top hotels will be booked across the city this December for Christmas parties, and they cost a lot to rent out.

    I don't doubt for a second that the bank will still be renting out these top hotels.

    These things never change.

    Oh yeah? Care to back these wild claims up?

    And by the way, they don't cost all that much. Usually Christmas parties in hotels are shared by multiple private companies. You can have a dozen different Christmas parties from a dozen different companies in the same function room, eating the same food, watching the same band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Of course as a taxpayer and major shareholder of the Bank, I do believe I would be entitled to turn up and get all these free drinks people are talking about. Twill be a busy Christmas going to all the Bank Parties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭Wile E. Coyote


    Jazzzman wrote: »

    do you know how much it costs to rent out the fancy hotel it'll be on in?

    do you know much entertainment costs?

    when the staff said 'they'll be paying some towards it', it means they'll have to buy their own drinks when the free bar closes at 12.

    i guarantee this party will costs 10k+

    Do you know if this is even a bank that's been bailed out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭StephenHendry


    xmas parties don't have the cost the earth, it can range from a restaurant, meal booked for 20-30 people or people unofficially getting together in a pub suitable to everyone and having a few drinks, and whatever finger food etc. that the pub in question will offer. the point of a xmas party is an opportunity for people to enjoy themselves amongst colleagues who have worked hard throughout the year and have a drink with people you work with that you may normally not socialise with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭Jazzzman


    Jaxxy wrote: »
    Oh yeah? Care to back these wild claims up?

    And by the way, they don't cost all that much. Usually Christmas parties in hotels are shared by multiple private companies. You can have a dozen different Christmas parties from a dozen different companies in the same function room, eating the same food, watching the same band.

    wild claims?

    have you being living under a rock for the past 10 years?

    good lord


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,151 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    I'm sorry that you have such crappy christmas parties, but the top hotels will be booked across the city this December for Christmas parties, and they cost a lot to rent out.

    I don't doubt for a second that the bank will still be renting out these top hotels.

    These things never change.

    They'll make certain that the hotel doesn't go into administration until the day after the party, so's not to spoil the festivities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    wild claims?

    have you being living under a rock for the past 10 years?

    good lord

    At least I don't live under a cloud of bitterness.

    What have you got against the counter staff of a bank who are putting up some of the cost of a Christmas party so they can enjoy a bit of festive fun with their colleagues once a year? They haven't got us into this situation, maybe you should redirect your anger towards the Dáil bar and the politicians who will be propping it up this Christmas.

    Good Lord indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭aknitter


    I work as a cashier in a bank branch (online now as I am on maternity leave) and can say the staff of that branch will be paying ALL the cost of that party themselves. Management will pay nothing towards it and even discourage them from happening at all.
    The people you deal with behind the counter are in the worst position of all, dealing with p%^&ks the like of who post on here day in day out - some of my colleagues in Dublin branches have been spat on, literally spat on. Also then dealing with SH*^tTE from mangers who hide in offices like cowards. Some are don't know if they will even have a job next year (i know some of you will say tough, but the person dealing with your missing laser card, or lodging your cheque did not arrange any crazy loans with developers and need their jobs as much as you do.)
    It no ones business if a group of work friends decide organise a night out with each other - the people I work with are the only reason going back to work doesn't make me want to slit my wrists....
    Party on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭S. Goodspeed


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    wild claims?

    have you being living under a rock for the past 10 years?

    good lord

    Even at the height of the Celtic tiger branch staff had their xmas parties in rented rooms on the second floor of sh*tty pubs. You seem to think everyone connected with a bank is a Gordon gecko type, big spending @rsehole.

    There is so much more about the current operation of our banks that deserves our attention, the continuing influence of the unions in them for a start.


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭Jazzzman


    Jaxxy wrote: »
    At least I don't live under a cloud of bitterness.

    What have you got against the counter staff of a bank who are putting up some of the cost of a Christmas party so they can enjoy a bit of festive fun with their colleagues once a year? They haven't got us into this situation, maybe you should redirect your anger towards the Dáil bar and the politicians who will be propping it up this Christmas.

    Good Lord indeed.
    you live under a rather large, dark cloud of recession instead


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    you live under a rather large, dark cloud of recession instead

    I think the concept of debate and discussion escapes you. But continue on cherry-picking one sentence that you have the mental capacity to address from multiple posts, by all means.

    Trollolololol!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 feelingblue


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    do you know how much it costs to rent out the fancy hotel it'll be on in?

    do you know much entertainment costs?

    when the staff said 'they'll be paying some towards it', it means they'll have to buy their own drinks when the free bar closes at 12.

    i guarantee this party will costs 10k+

    It is not in a hotel. They are having an early bird menu in a local restaurant. From what I can gather the total amount of staff including those not dealing with the public is about 20. I can assure you that we are not talking about thousands here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    It is not in a hotel. They are having an early bird menu in a local restaurant. From what I can gather the total amounf of staff including those not dealing with the public is about 20. I can assure you that we are not talking about thousands here.

    Ah good you've returned. Which bank are you referring to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 feelingblue


    aknitter wrote: »
    I work as a cashier in a bank branch (online now as I am on maternity leave) and can say the staff of that branch will be paying ALL the cost of that party themselves. Management will pay nothing towards it and even discourage them from happening at all.

    I am not lying you know they are paying some and the bank are paying some. Also the Manager is going for the meal.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    *puts down soapbox for another dickhead*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 feelingblue


    Ah good you've returned. Which bank are you referring to?

    I am not going to name the bank or the branch. Sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭Batesy


    I know for a fact that this is definetly not a BOI branch.

    We've even been told that if we plan to go for a drink amongst ourselves that under no circumstances can a section in a pub even be booked under the banks name!

    There hasn't been a BOI Xmas party in years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    I am not going to name the bank or the branch. Sorry.

    Don't care about the branch, which bank are you referring to? I think you be trollin' here..


  • Registered Users Posts: 881 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    For all those saying the cashiers deserve a night and all that, do you really think the senior management wont be having a night out too and getting some of it payed for ultimately by us


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  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭PauloConn


    I think most bank staff will go out for drinks but not with any support from management or financial backing of any sort.
    I used to regularly organise events in a number of banks and over recent years you could arrange something but couldn't be booked under company name or be called a party.
    But i do remember those "winter warmer gathering" and "box socials" like they were yesterday.....


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    you live under a rather large, dark cloud of recession instead

    i think some one is in negative equity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,764 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    aknitter wrote: »
    I work as a cashier in a bank branch (online now as I am on maternity leave) and can say the staff of that branch will be paying ALL the cost of that party themselves. Management will pay nothing towards it and even discourage them from happening at all.
    The people you deal with behind the counter are in the worst position of all, dealing with p%^&ks the like of who post on here day in day out - some of my colleagues in Dublin branches have been spat on, literally spat on. Also then dealing with SH*^tTE from mangers who hide in offices like cowards. Some are don't know if they will even have a job next year (i know some of you will say tough, but the person dealing with your missing laser card, or lodging your cheque did not arrange any crazy loans with developers and need their jobs as much as you do.)
    It no ones business if a group of work friends decide organise a night out with each other - the people I work with are the only reason going back to work doesn't make me want to slit my wrists....
    Party on

    Yes they did. They gave ridiculously sized mortages to average people. That is as much of the issue as the developers. The people giving mortgages and the people who took them out should be getting part of the blame, as much as people hate to admit it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    AdamD wrote: »
    Yes they did. They gave ridiculously sized mortages to average people. That is as much of the issue as the developers. The people giving mortgages and the people who took them out should be getting part of the blame, as much as people hate to admit it..

    http://bit.ly/v3eTTF


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    AdamD wrote: »
    Yes they did. They gave ridiculously sized mortages to average people. That is as much of the issue as the developers. The people giving mortgages and the people who took them out should be getting part of the blame, as much as people hate to admit it..

    The cashiers didn't, they were handing out cash to people not approving mortgages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    I think they are entitled to a Christmas party. It is the socialists in society now who are trying to take all the fun away from people. It isn't easy running these banks and all the work that goes into it.

    People moan about big bankers bonuses, the work they put in is massive. They should get bonuses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    That's akin to saying we should have left the Nazi soldiers be, as all they were doing is following orders from the mad man at the top.

    They all need to be punished, from the front desk lady to the cashier to the branch manager to the head honchos.

    So now you are comparing a cashier at a bank to a Nazi?? Ok then :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    do you know how much it costs to rent out the fancy hotel it'll be on in?

    do you know much entertainment costs?

    when the staff said 'they'll be paying some towards it', it means they'll have to buy their own drinks when the free bar closes at 12.

    i guarantee this party will costs 10k+

    You obviously have some inside knowledge on this, fill us in. Which hotel is it? What is the entertainment? Free bar closes at 12? Nice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Sooopie


    Jazzzman wrote: »
    you keep on missing that bigger picture - good lad


    that huge chip on your shoulder is spoiling my view, pal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    mossyc123 wrote: »
    Neither were the lads on the building sites whose industry effectively doesn't exist anymore.

    Tax payer subsidised entertainment is not on IMO whether it's a government agency, a semi-state or a bank.

    So what you are saying is if I am unhappy that there is a ghost estate in my area I can go and throw my own sh*t at any builder or carpenter I see then as its their fault?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    No truer word spoken! Everyone hitting the public service while the teachers look after their scumbag un-educatable kids every day
    Do you feel better now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Noopti wrote: »
    That kind of ****e annoys me. The people working behind the counters did nothing wrong, they are just working day to day like a lot of people in the country. That guy making the snide comment is a prick.

    A lot of private businesses arent having Christmas parties this year because they have closed down or because they cant afford it.. The banks would have closed down except for the fact that the Government really had no choice but to save them to save the economy... This doesnt happen for any other private business, so they should feel lucky that they even have their jobs this Christmas...

    I dont agree with taking it out on the lower level staff... but I think that given the billions we've pumped in to the banks to save them, wasting more public money on Christmas parties for them is taking the p1ss altogether.. You'd have to wonder, if the banks hadnt received so much public money, would they be having Christmas parties this year??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    Simple fact is no-one knows the actual truth about this situation (bank paying, employees paying, how much etc), so commenting on the fairness of having a party or not is a separate thing to the fact that the customer was a prick for taking it out on the cashiers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    35notout wrote: »
    I would find this really amusing if the bank in question was an Ulster Bank branch.
    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,899 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    A lot of private businesses arent having Christmas parties this year because they have closed down or because they cant afford it..

    ok granted, and its terrible

    but really what should this mean...some people wont have money at Christmas or have a party....so therefore, nobody should have a party?

    there are people homeless, starving etc all around the world, should no-one ever have a christmas party?


    people happen to work as cashiers in a bank branch , they should never celebrate anything ever again due to what happened?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Riskymove wrote: »
    ok granted, and its terrible

    but really what should this mean...some people wont have money at Christmas or have a party....so therefore, nobody should have a party?

    there are people homeless, starving etc all around the world, should no-one ever have a christmas party?


    people happen to work as cashiers in a bank branch , they should never celebrate anything ever again due to what happened?

    They should, they just shouldn't use public money to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Why?

    Because they're owned by RBS and haven't gotten any Irish taxpayers money.

    Seeing as the OP is refusing to name the bank in question, I'm suspecting it's Ulster Bank or National Irish (part of Danske Bank)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Why?

    Probably because it is part of RBS and was bailed out by the British Government and not the Irish Government. So the prick customer giving out hasn't given a cent of his taxes to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    aknitter wrote: »
    I work as a cashier in a bank branch (online now as I am on maternity leave) and can say the staff of that branch will be paying ALL the cost of that party themselves. Management will pay nothing towards it and even discourage them from happening at all.
    The people you deal with behind the counter are in the worst position of all, dealing with p%^&ks the like of who post on here day in day out - some of my colleagues in Dublin branches have been spat on, literally spat on. Also then dealing with SH*^tTE from mangers who hide in offices like cowards. Some are don't know if they will even have a job next year (i know some of you will say tough, but the person dealing with your missing laser card, or lodging your cheque did not arrange any crazy loans with developers and need their jobs as much as you do.)
    It no ones business if a group of work friends decide organise a night out with each other - the people I work with are the only reason going back to work doesn't make me want to slit my wrists....
    Party on
    I wouldn't come on here telling everyone that I work in a bank, I'd rather say I was unemployed!:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Hang them all, make them eat poison, feed their children to the lions...grrr...rabble rabble...damn branch staff deciding to flood the country with cheap credit taking advantage of a lax regulatory regime and increasing societal greed/materialism... Whores of bablyon those branch tellers...what with creating the conditions for a sub prime crisis in the US and lying to us all about Greece's economic status prior to joining the eurozone...i mean, how dare aul Maureen down at the currency exchange desk create a single currency with interest rates highly in favour of the largest economies thus undermining the whole pyramid from below. What the hell where you thinking woman !

    Yes, hang em, draw em, quarter em i say !


    Oh..wait, no,.. hang on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭mossyc123


    donalg1 wrote: »
    So what you are saying is if I am unhappy that there is a ghost estate in my area I can go and throw my own sh*t at any builder or carpenter I see then as its their fault?

    They really are lucky to be still working.

    The principles of capitalism would dictate that the organisations they work for shouldn't even exist anymore!

    Therefore taking even one cent from their benefactors to entertain staff is just not on.

    Equally abusing individuals in their work place (whether it's Seanie Fitz or Jane Bloggs the cashier) isn't on either.

    Basically, what he said: :)
    A lot of private businesses arent having Christmas parties this year because they have closed down or because they cant afford it.. The banks would have closed down except for the fact that the Government really had no choice but to save them to save the economy... This doesnt happen for any other private business, so they should feel lucky that they even have their jobs this Christmas...

    I dont agree with taking it out on the lower level staff... but I think that given the billions we've pumped in to the banks to save them, wasting more public money on Christmas parties for them is taking the p1ss altogether.. You'd have to wonder, if the banks hadnt received so much public money, would they be having Christmas parties this year??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Why should my taxes pay for any of it?

    Lol... what a weak argument.

    Are people really that bitter to begrudge the bottom of the rung 1 night out? Seriously? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    I think they are entitled to a Christmas party. It is the socialists in society now who are trying to take all the fun away from people. It isn't easy running these banks and all the work that goes into it.

    People moan about big bankers bonuses, the work they put in is massive. They should get bonuses.
    Trolling again....:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    So where is the proof that any tax payers money is being spent on this party?

    Lot of assumptions going on in this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭mossyc123


    Because they're owned by RBS and haven't gotten any Irish taxpayers money.

    Seeing as the OP is refusing to name the bank in question, I'm suspecting it's Ulster Bank or National Irish (part of Danske Bank)

    Show some solidarity... why should the UK taxpayer have to pay for it either?

    Would you think it ok if an AIB in the UK was funding staff entertainment?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Trolling again....:rolleyes:
    A genuine opinion. People are mislead about bankers and believe the myths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,899 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Snakeblood wrote: »
    They should, they just shouldn't use public money to do it.

    I see, there is some public money in banks, therefore anything they spend money on is public money; is that it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭mossyc123


    Noopti wrote: »
    So where is the proof that any tax payers money is being spent on this party?

    Lot of assumptions going on in this thread.

    Most people aren't assuming anything really.

    Theoretically, I and others have put forward the idea that tax-payer funded staff entertainment is unacceptable.

    The staff can do what they like with their after tax wages, no one has suggested they can't afaik.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    mossyc123 wrote: »
    Show some solidarity... why should the UK taxpayer have to pay for it either?

    Would you think it ok if an AIB in the UK was funding staff entertainment?

    Oh ffs.......where is the evidence this is being paid for by taxpayers....anywhere!?

    Typical "rabble rabble" response to this thread. My argument was against the arse of a customer who thought it was ok to take it out on the cashiers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Riskymove wrote: »
    I see, there is some public money in banks, therefore anything they spend money on is public money; is that it?

    If the bank is only in business because it got public money, then it should be treated as if it is dependent on public money, and treated like its spending money it got from the public coffers. I'm not sure how that's a crazy proposition.
    I'm not entirely happy, for example (actually, I'm furious) about TDs pensions, or the Dail Bar, for example, and I'll happily criticise that in another thread, because it's public money taken from the taxpayers (or to be repaid by the taxpayers at least) that is not being used to best effect.

    I don't think subsidising a christmas party for a bank is best effect either.


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