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New study shows, Fluoride causes Brain Damage.
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Not quite. I've been reading up on, well, one of the sources mentioned in the article...
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11571&page=317
Seems they reckon that Humans may be more sensitive to genotoxicity than rodents, amongst other reckonses. It's an interesting read actually.
I'll be back with a few quotes soon.
Excellent. Something to actually get stuck into.
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But I'm not interested in digging up more stuff for you to promptly ignore.
I wonder why??
Well, i'll take it it's untrue then, along with all the other bull you have clogged up the thread with.
(Details below)You are simply trying to avoid my point as usual.
Avoid your point??
You're simply trying to avoid facing the fact that your 'point' is in fact based on dishonesty and bull****e.
Let's have a look shall we?
Or as you asked me yourself:
"Then perhaps you can explain which ones I've made that are false or unfair."
Certainly.
Here's a selection of some of your 'points' about the graph:They fail to mention that all those other countries have alternative means of fluoridation such as fluoridated salt.
All?
Its completely untrue that all those other countries have alternative means of fluoridation. This is when you started to trot out your bullcrap, dishonesty and misrepresentations regarding the graph.So they are either totally ill informed about what they are talking about or deliberately left that bit out. Not sure which is worse.
Indeed..
At this stage i asked for proof to back up your dubious facts.
No reply of course.
Wonder why..
In the end i had to do your research for you.
More bullcrap, and dishonestly phrased.However the unfluoridated populations are in fact getting fluoride by other means.
'Getting fluoride' could mean anything.
No,in fact they do not.Most countries in Europe in fact fluoridate by other means.
And i gather you are weren't trying to shift the goalposts from those specific countries on the graph..But both populations are getting fluoride, though from different sources.
Indeed.
Weasely.
Nope.
Oh dear.AFAIR only one or two have actually banned it, the rest don't do it because they use other methodsAnd in many of them fluoridated salt, milk or other products are available.
Incorrect.
Yet again. This is getting ridiculous at this stage.
Fluoridated milk: zero zilch of the countries we're discussing.
"Currently milk fluoridation programs exist in several countries including Bulgaria, Chile, China, Peru, the Russian Federation, Thailand, and the UK."
http://www.allianceforacavityfreefuture.org/en/us/technologies/systemic-fluorides/milk-fluoridation
Fluoridated salt is available in all of 3 countries.
Not 'many of them'.
In those three countries, people have a choice of buying fluoridated or unfluoridated salt.
This is certainly not on a par with water fluoridation for many obvious reasons and to suggest otherwise is inaccurate/dishonest.
Infants and young children consume next to no salt. (as every parent knows)
Many choose very low salt diets to stay healthy or at least try to limit as much as possible.
Other facts regarding salt fluoridation:
Germany:
-Fluoridated salt has only been available since 1991.
(The graph covers the years 1965 to 2000)
-In the course of the next thirteen years, the market share of fluoridated and iodized domestic salt rose to 63.1%
-Fluoridated and iodized salt is still not allowed to be used in restaurant or cafeteria kitchens.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16156167
France:
Domestic salt both with added fluoride (at 250 ppm) and without fluoride has been on the market since 1986.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16156166
Switzerland:
After an early start in 1955, the introduction and acceptance of fluoridated salt (FS) for domestic use was slow in Switzerland because up to around 1980 there was no consistent strategy for the support of the use of FS. Part of the dental community still supported water fluoridation, while others criticized the insufficient concentration of fluoride in the salt (90 ppm). All Swiss cantons have a historical monopoly on salt trade, and until 1983 most cantonal governments resolved to authorize the sale of fluoridated domestic salt. Some of the cantonal governments made fluoridated salt the only available type of "kitchen salt" in 1-kg packages. After the concentration had been increased to 250 ppm in 1983, the use of FS gained further acceptance. A temporary setback occurred in 1992-1994, but was successfully met with by making the FS available in several package sizes, while other types of salt (with or without iodine) were available in 500 g packages only. By 2004, the market share of fluoridated domestic salt reached 88%. Further endeavours aim at increasing the use of FS by large kitchens. FS is available in portions of 12.5 kg (since 2001) and 25 kg (since 1976).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16156165
As for 'other products being available'
Yes am sure there would be fluoride supplements available on prescription, but that doesn't count as fluoridation in the context of what we're talking about, that's if we're using non-weasely tactics here..
Of course no apologies/corrections at any stage from you.No, that guy is fairly convinced that they are after his precious bodily fluids.
Seems you are as well.
Still prattling on.
And passing smarmy remarks as usual, all the while trying to pass off blatant untruths as facts in a desperate attempt to prove your crap points, when in fact its clear you either don't have a clue what you're talking about; or my personal pick: you do know the facts, but they get in the way of your non-argument.
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