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What issued did HSE ddress when formed?

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  • 03-12-2011 6:10pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭


    Hi im trying to do an essay for college on restructuring organisations can anyone link or explain generally what structural changes were made when the health boards were abolished and the HSE was formed
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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    Doing peoples homework is not what this forum is for tbh

    Cheers

    DrG


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    Moved from Politics

    I've had a chat with this poster via Pm, and this is likely a better home than Politics tbh

    Cheers

    DrG


  • Registered Users Posts: 926 ✭✭✭drzhivago


    Snacker wrote: »
    Hi im trying to do an essay for college on restructuring organisations can anyone link or explain generally what structural changes were made when the health boards were abolished and the HSE was formed

    Unsure of thrust of question BUT
    we had 11 health boards
    Merged to form HSE
    NO staff layoffs
    Multiple duplications of roles

    New Stationary
    New Logos
    New signs on buildings
    New Supervisory management roles

    Centralised a lot of things that used to be done locally taking decisions away from local decision makers

    Budgets brought back under central control but responsibility for overspend sent out to the peripheries


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    The sole political purpose of the HSE was to insulate politicians and civil servants from any responsibility for the execution of policies set by the Dept of Health and Children (or whatever they are currently called).

    This new monolithic HSE would save asses and embarrassment, but not anything as trivial as money. Freed up from everything to do with health delivery, there were supposed to be fewer civil servants in DOHC; today there are more.

    One of the more ill-informed and ham-fisted attempts to centralise control over the personnel costs in the new HSE (the single biggest line-item in the annual budget) and to drive organisational change was to roll-out an IT system called PPARS, a "high-tech, super-duper payroll and personnel records system". No-one understood that PPARS was a cube and couldn't roll very far, so it didn't.

    The planners / implementers forgot (or never knew) that information technology is non-deterministic and in order to be successful, it must "fit" with the human work-systems. IT cannot be used to design work; work and workers define IT design. The work-systems themselves of course evolved from the days when the county councils and voluntary organisations ran the majority of the hospitals in the country and were by and large stuck firmly in the 19th century.

    So we are now witnessing the demise the the "big HSE in the sky" and quietly behind the scenes the health delivery model is now reverting to what it was before Harney Drumm & Co got their paws on it, with mini-HSEs all over the country again with their own mini-boards.

    Professor Charles Handy in his books lists I think 68 variables that need attention when designing effective / efficient organisations; structure (who reports to whom) is only one of them and one of the least important in his view. The critical one is "purpose" or "what do my customers / clients expect of me". I can't remember HSE users being asked by Harney Drumm & Co, but I'm sure politicos and civil servants had their input.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    I don't believe anyone in managment grades of the HSE knows anytihng more about computers than how to email, write word documents and play solitaire. The people making decisions on IT in the health service are taken in by marketing spiel of salesmen because they just don't understand enough about IT not to be taken in


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    One thing the HSE did reduce was the shocking level of political interference in the provision of health care - the old health boards were stuffed with local politicians who constantly badgered management about '' why is mrs. murphy waiting 12 months for her hip replacement ? '' .
    A British NHS trust CEO spent time here with a Health Board and was shocked at the political interference at all levels.

    Take a look at the Cancer care strategy - this has involved shutting down various ' Mickey Mouse ' operations and going for the centres of excellence strategy , the howls of protest have been loud but the strategy has proceeded and this could never have happened when local politicians, many with Dail ambitions , were calling the shots.
    I believe the new strategy will pay dividends and our cancer outcome rates will improve.

    That said , the HSE has been called the Quango from hell , it lacks accountability , is overstaffed , many managers remain poorly educated and trained , patients still come a poor second to the needs of staff , etc.


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