SNOW REPORTS ONLY - December 4 - 6th.

darkman2 · 05-12-2011 1:01am

Deep Easterly wrote: »

I am pretty sure he would, since it seems odd that snow is being reported when temp is 4.0c at the station with a Td of 2.0c. Similar to a report from the same station earlier this morning as well when snow was reported under similar readings. Only explanation I can give is that any snow was very brief and occurred during an intense downdraft or something. (with a high gust of 49kts this is a possibility) so I doubt any snow observed lasted any more than a few seconds if at all.

I don't think anyone is in a position to disregard any met station. Snow has been reported at sea level. Simple fact as far as i'm concerned.

I am sure he will be equally interested in the report from Harps aswell.

smallwonder · 05-12-2011 1:02am

Pangea wrote: »

No snow here either, very windy out though. Can't see me getting snow.

Wouldn't bet on it. Thought I'd check outside one last time and the current hail shower has covered the driveway and my car. Who knows what's in store!

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 1:08am

darkman2 wrote: »

I don't think anyone is in a position to disregard any met station. Snow has been reported at sea level. Simple fact as far as i'm concerned.

I am not disregarding the observation at all, just trying to give an explanation as I just think it is odd that snow (recent snow on actual report) was reported under such readings.

Nuser · 05-12-2011 1:09am

10 minute snow shower in Omagh there, just stopped now. Lovely big flakes, was sticking too.

darkman2 · 05-12-2011 1:11am

Deep Easterly wrote: »

I am not disregarding the observation at all, just trying to give an explanation as I just think it is odd that snow (recent snow on actual report) was reported under such readings.

Down draught is probably the most likely explanation as you said.

Antiprophet · 05-12-2011 1:13am

Thermometer is showing -2 outside here (just out of Waterford city towards kilmeaden), not a cloud in the sky though.

This is about the UK the last two winters, but it really is a very interesting watch - http://www.channel4.com/programmes/britains-big-freeze/4od

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 1:17am

darkman2 wrote: »

Down draught is probably the most likely explanation as you said.

Finner Camp reporting a 45kt gust, a temp of 4c but a lower Td of 0.3c, and reporting rain. Odd.

MiNdGaM3 · 05-12-2011 1:18am

Currently 5.0C, dew point of 2.8C in Cork city. Doesn't look too good right now, but there's always hope.
Should be heading to the gym at around 6:30am, so I'll report back around then.
G'night all!

EDIT: Valentia tephigram showing uppers around -4/5C for midnight.

Oscar Bravo · 05-12-2011 1:19am

0100 Reports-Belmullet now reporting Sleet with a Gust of 46Kts.Temp 4 at this time.

darkman2 · 05-12-2011 1:23am

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Finner Camp reporting a 45kt gust, a temp of 4c but a lower Td of 0.3c, and reporting rain. Odd.

Depends on intensity of the shower aswell. Maybe just a light shower without a down draught. It is very windy off the west coast. Near gale force wind in fact.

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 1:25am

Gusty rain shower just passed through here - Tuam, 39m asl. Still waiting for the snow that was promised..

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 1:29am

darkman2 wrote: »

Depends on intensity of the shower aswell. Maybe just a light shower without a down draught. It is very windy off the west coast. Near gale force wind in fact.

Yep, Finner reported just trace while Belmullet reported 0.5mm.

konman · 05-12-2011 1:32am

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Gusty rain shower just passed through here - Tuam, 39m asl. Still waiting for the snow that was promised..

not looking good for us deep.

Rougies · 05-12-2011 1:33am

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Finner Camp reporting a 45kt gust, a temp of 4c but a lower Td of 0.3c, and reporting rain. Odd.

Nothing odd about that really

The Belmullet observation sounds odd of course. But as has been mentioned already, probably due to downdraft for a short period of time.

****observer looks out window and notes snowfall .... writes "recent snow" in notepad and goes to PC to update observation**** .... meanwhile ... sensors send info automatically at either predetermined intervals or in some cases (wind) on average and updates the same database for that hour ..

Or something, I'm not feeling eloquent right now :P

darkman2 · 05-12-2011 1:34am

Dundalk about to get more snow.

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 1:38am

Rougies wrote: »

Nothing odd about that really

The Belmullet observation sounds odd of course. But as has been mentioned already, probably due to downdraft for a short period of time.

****observer looks out window and notes snowfall .... writes "recent snow" in notepad and goes to PC to update observation**** .... meanwhile ... sensors send info automatically at either predetermined intervals or in some cases (wind) on average and updates the same database for that hour ..

Or something, I'm not feeling eloquent right now :P

Not odd in itself of course, just that Finner's readings at the time would have been more conducive for snow than Belmullet's readings.

Oddity is a relative, rather than absolute concept in this case I think.

Rougies · 05-12-2011 1:40am

I get what you mean by odd now DE

the diff in the temp and "DP" (stop saying Td, it;s just gonna piss people off lol) with rain falling...

well I suppose that explains belmullet too .. the atmophere is unstable below 850hpa and swirling on every axis?

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 1:42am

konman wrote: »

not looking good for us deep.

There seems to be a stream of showers heading for us Konman from the NW at the moment, any hope we have would be in them before morning. Temp is 1.8c here in town so fingers crossed.

redsteveireland · 05-12-2011 1:45am

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Gusty rain shower just passed through here - Tuam, 39m asl. Still waiting for the snow that was promised..

Only sleety muck here, next shower looks more intense, wind picking up a bit too.

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 1:47am

Rougies wrote: »

I get what you mean by odd now DE

the diff in the temp and "DP" (stop saying Td, it;s just gonna piss people off lol) with rain falling...

well I suppose that explains belmullet too .. the atmophere is unstable below 850hpa and swirling on every axis?

and also above!

Edit: Just remembered that Finner is also a fully automated station so observation was not observed by human eyes (if that makes sense!)

konman · 05-12-2011 1:47am

Deep Easterly wrote: »

There seems to be a stream of showers heading for us Konman from the NW at the moment, any hope we have would be in them before morning. Temp is 1.8c here in town so fingers crossed.

I dont have a W.S. but it seemed to get a touch milder between 9 and 12 but it seems to getting colder now. Also there was graupel here in a light shower about 9 i think

darkman2 · 05-12-2011 1:50am

konman wrote: »

I dont have a W.S. but it seemed to get a touch milder between 9 and 12 but it seems to getting colder now. Also there was graupel here in a light shower about 9 i think

12am

6am

Once your sub -5 your on for snow.

Sponge Bob · 05-12-2011 1:56am

Why do I have rain right now?

konman · 05-12-2011 1:57am

thanks darkman.

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 2:00am

konman wrote: »

I dont have a W.S. but it seemed to get a touch milder between 9 and 12 but it seems to getting colder now. Also there was graupel here in a light shower about 9 i think

Temp was sort of yo yoing here all evening and still is within a very small degree, back up to 2.2c at the moment. I don't think the flat terrain of the landscape is helping us either as most of the snow reports seem to be from hillier areas. Anyway, just got very windy here again so another shower moving in. We may be luckier with this one.

Rougies · 05-12-2011 2:00am

darkman2 wrote: »

Once your sub -5 your on for snow.

Wrong.

Once you're sub -5 you've got one of the main ingredients for a delicious snow cake.

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 2:01am

redsteveireland wrote: »

Only sleety muck here, next shower looks more intense, wind picking up a bit too.

Just moving in here now Redsteve, has become very gusty.

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 2:05am

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Why do I have rain right now?

Because you are the snow bunny hater!

darkman2 · 05-12-2011 2:06am

Rougies wrote: »

Wrong.

Once you're sub -5 you've got one of the main ingredients for a delicious snow cake.

The snow is falling where the 850hpa temperature is below -5 therefore all the ingredients in those areas are in place (just about). It is forecast to get colder again as the night goes on in your part of the country so you have a chance. Anyway those who see snow enjoy! Night.

Rougies · 05-12-2011 2:11am

darkman2 wrote: »

The snow is falling where the 850hpa temperature is below -5 therefore all the ingredients in those areas are in place (just about). It is forecast to get colder again as the night goes on in your part of the country so you have a chance. Anyway those who see snow enjoy! Night.

Well ok, if you put it like that, that makes more sense

konman · 05-12-2011 2:12am

Deep,that last shower was quite squally, i think i have description right correct me if im wrong. think its time for a few hours kip and an early rise to see if theres any change

Deep Easterly · 05-12-2011 2:17am

konman wrote: »

Deep,that last shower was quite squally, i think i have description right correct me if im wrong. think its time for a few hours kip and an early rise to see if theres any change

Spot on. Squally but just brought a few spits here.

Waiting for 2pm reports then beddies myself.

Dunny · 05-12-2011 3:03am

Stopped here, didnt stick.

faktisperminute · 05-12-2011 3:05am

Finally a heavy proper snow shower here !!!!!

Giggsy_ · 05-12-2011 3:13am

Good shower of snow here in cavan town ... Appears to be sticking

Correction: It aint sticking unfortunately

BLIZZARD7 · 05-12-2011 3:19am

That blob over north-west leinster looks like hitting North Dublin/Louth in the next 45 mins, please snow gods let some of it get to me in South Dublin!

Dan :cool:

darkman2 · 05-12-2011 3:31am

Could be on for some snow here shortly near Malahide and North Dublin. First of the season if I see a flake.

Rougies · 05-12-2011 3:37am

Sorry, I couldn't help myself

And seems like Su is writing the Mace Head observations

Seriously though, I know they're both automatic stations, but "freezing drizzl", come on :P

darkman2 · 05-12-2011 3:50am

Just got the first snow flakes of the season here. Nothing much but a flake is a flake!

05-12-2011 4:14am

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

That blob over north-west leinster looks like hitting North Dublin/Louth in the next 45 mins, please snow gods let some of it get to me in South Dublin!

Dan :cool:

Lordy, it's trying to snow, but it's just too darn wet (Drogheda).

rilz · 05-12-2011 5:30am

Guy's - It is snowing on East coast of Northern Ireland at sea level.

Also snowing in Lurgan pretty hard in mid Ulster.

snaps · 05-12-2011 6:19am

Nothing to report from South East Mayo. Not even any wind. Got awoken by a hefty hail shower at about 3am, but thats about it.

MiNdGaM3 · 05-12-2011 6:32am

5.0C, dew point of 3.1C and the balcony is just wet, no snow overnight. Ah well, suppose that's what many people are waking up to this morning.

alie · 05-12-2011 6:55am

Very windy and cold but no snow in Rathfarnham.

irish1967 · 05-12-2011 7:13am

Light breeze. 1.1c recent hail. Ground slightly white. Grass green.

dobsdave · 05-12-2011 8:27am

Was snowing in Derry overnight, still on the ground.

Harps · 05-12-2011 8:34am

Pretty sure I heard more thunder here last night, lights are gone this morning anyway.

Heavy snow on the hills overnight as well, only a grass covering of what is probably hail here but my path back to letterkenny is blocked by a jackknifed lorry at the moment.