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Mycroft H

actuallylike wrote: »

Well, that I imagine is exactly it. Some people, myself included, are really only getting started. I have my house and enough materials sorted but only starting to explore my mine. some people are still in their 3*3 huts!

My solution is instead of all the seasoned users to call for a map reset, set up camp in a remote area of the map that's unexplored. Set up a rail system to connect the old town so you can pop in to say hello . I know a lot of people are set up pretty handily at the moment with a crazy amount of diamonds, etc. but if you want a real survival experience, just move to a new town and throw your materials in lava. Don't reset the whole town cause there are people just starting and could really contribute to the map in their own way.

If you bought a house with an acre of land in the back, you wouldn't make a 2m squared rookery, admire it, then move house would you?






ps don't throw your diamonds in lava, buzz up to my gaf...I suck yo dick!

That's not a bad idea. Or build a nether railway and end up somewhere completely random.

BlandKitten

The map is limited in size, and from flying around and teleporting to random places, I've seen that most of it actually is explored. Going through underground areas and finding torches people placed months ago, leading into tunnels people had only dug the previous day. All from areas that seemed completely untouched.

The people that have been here for a while simply leaving and moving onto somewhere else isn't that compelling of an argument really. If you have a chest full of diamonds and a massive pimped out house, you aren't going to be leaving that thing any time soon. There's always new players and so there's always going to be people at different stages in the game, ranging from just starting out in a little mud hut, to sitting on a diamond throne, so where do we draw the line? If we just relocate veteran players elsewhere all the time then it gets a bit ridiculous and we'd have the same map indefinitely.

Also, we always let you guys know when a restart is coming with at least a weeks notice. It's not like one day you'll just sign in and everything is different.

actuallylike

BlandKitten wrote: »

The map is limited in size, and from flying around and teleporting to random places, I've seen that most of it actually is explored. Going through underground areas and finding torches people placed months ago, leading into tunnels people had only dug the previous day. All from areas that seemed completely untouched.

The people that have been here for a while simply leaving and moving onto somewhere else isn't that compelling of an argument really. If you have a chest full of diamonds and a massive pimped out house, you aren't going to be leaving that thing any time soon. There's always new players and so there's always going to be people at different stages in the game, ranging from just starting out in a little mud hut, to sitting on a diamond throne, so where do we draw the line? If we just relocate veteran players elsewhere all the time then it gets a bit ridiculous and we'd have the same map indefinitely.

Also, we always let you guys know when a restart is coming with at least a weeks notice. It's not like one day you'll just sign in and everything is different.

Well if that's the way it is then fair dues. sorry but I'm new to multiplayer, it's just that I hate to see so much work that people have done go to waste and lets face it that is what'll happen, even if maps are saved, nobody's going to view them. It'll be like my bebo, full of brilliance but nobody to see it.

BlandKitten

actuallylike wrote: »

Well if that's the way it is then fair dues. sorry but I'm new to multiplayer, it's just that I hate to see so much work that people have done go to waste and lets face it that is what'll happen, even if maps are saved, nobody's going to view them. It'll be like my bebo, full of brilliance but nobody to see it.

You'd be surprised. There's been a few people posting asking who built stuff in really obscure areas no one saw when the map was up before.

AirBiscuit

Whoever built the monstrosity at X-36, Z-43 should really tear it down. What's the point, this isn't a freebuild server? It's even worse than the inverted pyramid on the first map.


Also, cool, my old house is still there.

gavmcg92

Botulism wrote: »

Also, cool, my old house is still there.

Just about... last time I was there I felt like I was the unseen co star in "I am Legend" going through a ransacked house.

Well I've only been on it less then a month and I've built quite a good bit, also easily collected over 300 diamonds.. Not that hard tbh to get started.

Altho I'd like to see us stay on this, but sure whatever happens, happens.

Kenno90

You just don't want to leave that fortune 3 diamond pickaxe behind maka :P

Ponster

BlandKitten wrote: »

If you have a chest full of diamonds and a massive pimped out house, you aren't going to be leaving that thing any time soon.

Isn't it an endless cycle then? Imagine we reset for 1.3 and start over again (it'll be my 4th restart) it won't be too long before some people have chest full of diamonds and great houses again who will be looking for another restart.

I believe that a map reset should only be due to an update that brings something new to the game. The last reset among other things doubled the hight of the ceiling and that for me was enough of a game-changer to justify a new map. Resetting because some people are bored is going to lead to newer players leaving the server to go somewhere more stable (IMHO).

Of course it probably does depend on playing styles. I couldn't care less about having a pimped-out house. I'm more interested in redstone, pistons and rails and haven't been to spawn more than twice in the past 3 months. If I was told that 1.3 was coming with a pvp or factions mod then I'd be all for it. Or a map that was designed by someone (as opposed to a random seed) where certain resources are concentrated in different regions of the map forcing people to travel to get them.

Kenno90

Ponster wrote: »

Isn't it an endless cycle then? Imagine we reset for 1.3 and start over again (it'll be my 4th restart) it won't be too long before some people have chest full of diamonds and great houses again who will be looking for another restart.

I believe that a map reset should only be due to an update that brings something new to the game. The last reset among other things doubled the hight of the ceiling and that for me was enough of a game-changer to justify a new map. Resetting because some people are bored is going to lead to newer players leaving the server to go somewhere more stable (IMHO).

Of course it probably does depend on playing styles. I couldn't care less about having a pimped-out house. I'm more interested in redstone, pistons and rails and haven't been to spawn more than twice in the past 3 months. If I was told that 1.3 was coming with a pvp or factions mod then I'd be all for it. Or a map that was designed by someone (as opposed to a random seed) where certain resources are concentrated in different regions of the map forcing people to travel to get them.

Yes but 1.3 is changing the way minecraft works. Its combining single player and multiplayer together as well as adding a mod api.

If we never reset the map then we'd still be playing in beta :pac: . Honestly i think the map will be around for at least another two months, We still have to wait for 1.3 to be released , have all the mods/plugins updated and then the admins will give us notice of the reset.

Ponster

Kenno90 wrote: »

Yes but 1.3 is changing the way minecraft works. Its combining single player and multiplayer together as well as adding a mod api.

Will either of those things have an impact on the actual multiplayer experience though ?

I think that if it was another few months then it'd be fine. How long as this map been running?

Kenno90

Ponster wrote: »

Will either of those things have an impact on the actual multiplayer experience though ?

I think that if it was another few months then it'd be fine. How long as this map been running?

well i joined at the start of march and this map was set up a good few weeks before that so its been going for about 4 months (complete guesstimate)

So there is a decent life span of each map , its not like they get reset every few weeks or anything.

I just really hope the spawn isn't beside a mountain this time

*Edit looks like this map was set up around the 5th of March , i joined around two weeks later

Eggy Baby!

Mycroft H

Eggy Baby! wrote: »

It's 11 in the morning?

People at work? School? College? Bed?

There was 8-9 of us online last night.

cherryghost

BX 19 wrote: »

It's 11 in the morning?

People at work? School? College? Bed?

There was 8-9 of us online last night.

I've been on nearly every morning because it suits me better, normally it's empty but the odd time someone strays on

Farcheal

BX 19 wrote: »

It's 11 in the morning?

People at work? School? College? Bed?

There was 8-9 of us online last night.

I think that Steve was actually running for Win Xp . Come on, there's rc Win 8 out now!

Modding API won't be to 1.4 according to their wiki.

Bring on Factions! Think it would be fun to add in a little conflict over the resources of the map. With people talking about the huge amount of resources they have I think ponster's designed map idea is good. Perhaps we could use a seed with more limited resources to make this more challenging. Like bland said the survival part at the start is. funest and afterwards people are bored.

Mycroft H

Factions would be excellent. Auto divide teams to keep the balance fair.

Forts, Castles, Raiding parties? Would be brilliant. I used to hang about on the Reddit Survival servers and pvp was rife. Very little safe places.

I came back to my hovel one day and someone had wired it with TNT

cherryghost

Farcheal wrote: »

I think that Steve was actually running for Win Xp . Come on, there's rc Win 8 out now!

Modding API won't be to 1.4 according to their wiki.

Bring on Factions! Think it would be fun to add in a little conflict over the resources of the map. With people talking about the huge amount of resources they have I think ponster's designed map idea is good. Perhaps we could use a seed with more limited resources to make this more challenging. Like bland said the survival part at the start is. funest and afterwards people are bored.

I've been on another server with Factions and I must say its quite interesting. What happened is that the server is multiworld. There was a hidden platform to teleport to this other world which was more abundant in resources. First to get there obviously claimed the land around it. The teleportation zone was laid with traps for invading factions. We were under attack and they TNT'd the traps and built a bridge over the area before the rest of the army tp'd in.

We got devastated. Our buildings were destroyed and looted. Our leader admitted defeat and our faction was banished to the other world to a mined-out desert. Was great fun. Only downside was it brought a lot of arguments and broke the community a bit. The server fell by the wayside after a while and now the only people that inhabit it are new faces that are destined to fight to their deaths.

Eggy Baby!

BX 19 wrote: »

It's 11 in the morning?

People at work? School? College? Bed?

There was 8-9 of us online last night.

I know, but its still funny to think there is someone in the server building things all alone

Mycroft H

Its not bad on your own. You can sleep and reset it to day

gavmcg92

i like the idea of factions... I was on the server set up by the lads from TNT. Really alot of fun, however what I found is you really need to be on there from the start. I got on, made myself a stone sword and withen 10 minutes I was set alight by a team of three in fully enchanted armor and full level smite swords. Not to mention those cheaters who just loved /tpaccept ers who would say they wanted you on their team, telleport you in and kill you in the dungeon.
Not a pretty sight.

I think it works for a, lets say, month long event. Where no one has the chance to overpower the other unless it's down to skill.

Dale Parish

Think of the advances in cannon-making techniques...

I propose a neutral side which simply supplies each side with weapons (in exchange for cash, of course!):pac::pac::pac:

Kenno90

Its a good idea, would love a map with factions, instead of all focusing on building our own little forts, we make a big town fortress and try to fend off/ attack the other team

To make it easier we could have a normal map with a huge river dividing two land masses.

Oh the possibilities :pac:

nimrod86

Ponster wrote: »

Or a map that was designed by someone (as opposed to a random seed) where certain resources are concentrated in different regions of the map forcing people to travel to get them.

That would be something I'd certainly be for! Is there any terrain generators we could use to do this?

Make a map that makes sense so we don't end up with snow biomes surrounded by deserts! :pac:

Kenno90

nimrod86 wrote: »

That would be something I'd certainly be for! Is there any terrain generators we could use to do this?

Make a map that makes sense so we don't end up with snow biomes surrounded by deserts! :pac:

There is , i remember watching a video on a custom map before, its all landscaping, complete with cliffs etc, i'll try and find a link

deconduo

Yeah just some more things that we'd like to have for the next map:

-Custom world generation. Snow/Taiga in the North and South, Jungle/Desert in the middle. Maybe an ocean with continents and stuff as well.

-Some sort of factions plugin. Probably limited to 2-3 factions, with a peaceful/builder faction as well for people who aren't interested in it.

-Proper PvP implementation, linked with the factions stuff.

-Harder mobs. PvE is pretty easy and not very scary anymore.


I dunno how much of this we'll actually get done, or how long it will take. Don't expect a reset straight after 1.3 comes out, we will wait for plugins to get updated and stuff. We're also open to any more suggestions or thoughts.

nimrod86

Found a cool generator you might want to try for the map dec, it's here:

http://worldpainter.net

It lets you basically draw it out

Dale Parish

I don't like the idea of someone (as in a person) doing the map; It means at least 1 person knows where the resources are.. why not leave it with normal map generation? If you don't like a hill, remove it!

mossy95

IS the server down I cant connect

Mycroft H

mossy95 wrote: »

IS the server down I cant connect

I'm on it atm. It seems to be up

TheLastMile

nvm

deconduo

deconduo wrote: »

Yeah just some more things that we'd like to have for the next map:

-Custom world generation. Snow/Taiga in the North and South, Jungle/Desert in the middle. Maybe an ocean with continents and stuff as well.

-Some sort of factions plugin. Probably limited to 2-3 factions, with a peaceful/builder faction as well for people who aren't interested in it.

-Proper PvP implementation, linked with the factions stuff.

-Harder mobs. PvE is pretty easy and not very scary anymore.


I dunno how much of this we'll actually get done, or how long it will take. Don't expect a reset straight after 1.3 comes out, we will wait for plugins to get updated and stuff. We're also open to any more suggestions or thoughts.

Well, unless you have Diamond armor you can die pretty quick when facing a few mobs at the one go. Very hard going up against 2 spiders, a skeleton shooting at you and a creeper running after you.

Eggy Baby!

I always liked the idea of "Towns" I was on a towny server and there were different towns and the town elder could claim land. In between claimed lands were PVP zones where bands of soldiers from rival towns would fight. Nobody in claimed lands could destroy blocks without permission from the elder. there was also an economy system too.

cherryghost

Can you add my friend: zepony

Danke

AirBiscuit

nimrod86 wrote: »

Found a cool generator you might want to try for the map dec, it's here:

http://worldpainter.net

It lets you basically draw it out

I say make actual Ireland (maybe England too). Ought to become political.

BlandKitten

Done. Also...

cherryghost

BlandKitten wrote: »

Done. Also...

I hate you

BlandKitten

cherryghost wrote: »

I hate you

:cool:

AirBiscuit

I'd play occasionally, but minecraft always crashes unless I reinstall my graphics drivers and restart my computer, and once I turn it off the next time I have to do the same thing. Just not worth it.

Fenrar31

Hi lads, requesting to be added to the white list. I'm from Kilkenny.

Gealbhan

fusuf

Hi can I get white listed please my username is mick3690. thanks!

deconduo

Fenrar31 wrote: »

Hi lads, requesting to be added to the white list. I'm from Kilkenny.

Gealbhan

fusuf wrote: »

Hi can I get white listed please my username is mick3690. thanks!

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Dats_Dope

May i be added please?

IGN : Fionnuar_gaige

gavmcg92

Dats_Dope wrote: »

May i be added please?

IGN : Fionnuar_gaige

Added. Enjoy

Dats_Dope

gavmcg92 wrote: »

Added. Enjoy

Thank you

Eggy Baby!

Botulism wrote: »

I say make actual Ireland (maybe England too). Ought to become political.

I get the North, okay?

Kenno90

Perhaps , when were looking for a new world , Let a few of us fly around and see if its a good match.

I think some kind of custom map is the way to go for this reset :pac: One with a few islands so we can build huge bridges across to them

Opinicus

Eggy Baby! wrote: »

I get the North, okay?

No! It's mine.

Ponster

Kenno90 wrote: »

I think some kind of custom map is the way to go for this reset :pac: One with a few islands so we can build huge bridges across to them

yeah. I'd love to see isolated islands, far from spawn with an extra high amount of certain ores that are perhaps less easily found by just digging down.
The Redstone Islands sounds like a good name

Kenno90

Ponster wrote: »

yeah. I'd love to see isolated islands, far from spawn with an extra high amount of certain ores that are perhaps less easily found by just digging down.
The Redstone Islands sounds like a good name

That would make it seem more life like, specific areas for specific resources , it would encourage people to explore and eventually create railways back to spawn for trade/ building.

Though creating something like that is easier said then done. wonder if this map will be the same size ?