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Deleted User wrote: »

It goes giga then tera then peta.

All the content on PornHub uses about 24 Petabytes of data.

Yes vast amounts, but you would think, sending all your research on synthetic life forms would take up a good deal more than my home entertainment system uses.

odd you would know how so much about pornhub

Evade

They used to get around that by using teraquads for data.

pixelburp

Maybe data compression techniques got significantly better in the interim decades; not like it doesn't remain a significant engineering conundrum

Evade

Evade wrote: »

I'm watching Total Recall, the good one, and I spotted Dukat, Jellicoe, the Doctor, and Kolrami in the cast. I never noticed any of them except Ronny Cox before.

I looked a bit more into it. Sonya Gomez is the three breasted mutant too.

TheIrishGrover

pixelburp wrote: »

Maybe data compression techniques got significantly better in the interim decades; not like it doesn't remain a significant engineering conundrum

I remember they did something like that in that iffy Battlestar Galactica prequel, Caprica. In it they mentioned that human consciousnesses could be downloaded into a few hundred megs. At this stage we already have 16-32 gig memory sticks and hard drives were already in terabyte ranges. So I thought this was a clever way of actually getting past that eventual out-dating.

Evade

I was watching a Youtube video the other day that mentioned there's an audiobook, there's actually two, of Q vs Spock with Nimoy and de Lancie. I'd never heard of them before has anyone listened to them? The second episode is on Youtube if you search for it but not the first and I'd rather listen to them in order.

AMKC

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I remember they did something like that in that iffy Battlestar Galactica prequel, Caprica. In it they mentioned that human consciousnesses could be downloaded into a few hundred megs. At this stage we already have 16-32 gig memory sticks and hard drives were already in terabyte ranges. So I thought this was a clever way of actually getting past that eventual out-dating.

I liked Caprica. Thought it was very good. Disapointed when it was cancelled.

Evade wrote: »

I was watching a Youtube video the other day that mentioned there's an audiobook, there's actually two, of Q vs Spock with Nimoy and de Lancie. I'd never heard of them before has anyone listened to them? The second episode is on Youtube if you search for it but not the first and I'd rather listen to them in order.

Never heard of them but agree listening to them in order would be better. Surprised someone uploaded the 2nd one but not the first one.

silverharp

gotta love Shatner

https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1302023397233184768

silverharp

silverharp wrote: »

gotta love Shatner

https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1302023397233184768

He's got a point to be honest.

pixelburp

Someone in the design department 'effed up. Modern Pike being there makes me wonder if there was confusion in the brief and that was honestly thought to be Kirk. Looks like they fixed it though.

That does remind ...

... might be coming across as a Hot Take, but as I've grown older myself I've preferred movie Kirk to TV Kirk. The latter was undoubtedly more ostensibly fun as the swashbuckling hero type no question. In terms of character though? The way the movies forced Kirk to come to terms with encroaching obsolescence and regret over missed opportunities was a depth you never really saw before or since then with Trek. The stakes and pain were very human sized compared with (say) Sisko's dealing with being a literal Prophet (not meant to demean the latter, think I've waxed lyrical about DS9 as it stands)

It was a smart decision the writers made, realising Shatner was a middle-aged man by TMP / Wrath of Khan so leaned into it. It resulted in a 6 film run that boiled down to "Kirk learns to grow old gracefully - and grow up - sometimes too late to reconcile with his past". It was impactful stuff, without completely undermining the fundamental swagger and roguish elements of the character. Or indeed undermining the tenets of Trek either; as Utopian as the Fed was it couldn't ever hope to discount simple human emotional weakness.

Stark

For a second there, I thought you were talking about Chris Pine's version of Captain Kirk and was thinking "WTF".

pixelburp

LOL: though there was a similar character beat in ...Beyond, around the first act; Pine's version feeling melancholy in outliving his own father, with a lingering sense of "where to now?". Shame the film didn't go anywhere with it really, Justin Lin's directing not the best, but was another reason that third film was the strongest entry IMO.

TheValeyard

They also left out Captain Archer. Which is a bit mean.

StevenToast

Cringe...how do you not have kirk on a star trek poster?

Look how diverse we are!brutal

silverharp

Fan Art to the rescue

https://twitter.com/Sailor_Sega/status/1302796590566965248

Goodshape

StevenToast wrote: »

Cringe...how do you not have kirk on a star trek poster?

Look how diverse we are!brutal

In fairness, I'm pretty sure this is the original:



https://twitter.com/Ballerina_KC/status/1302024225050578945/photo/1

Kirk is there, just a little small. I think Shatner's second tweet was a Photoshop, teasing that they just remove him altogether.

odyssey06

No Irish need apply I see. Working man can't get a break.

Stark

TheValeyard wrote: »

They also left out Captain Archer. Which is a bit mean.

He was the worst captain imo.

TheValeyard

Stark wrote: »

He was the worst captain imo.

I'd disagree. He's an early Captain trying to find his way.

Stark

No denying that Archer had a very challenging role but Bakula's acting was wooden af.

TheValeyard

Stark wrote: »

No denying that Archer had a very challenging role but Bakula's acting was wooden af.

Think I'd a soft spot for him since I watched Quantum Leap growing up.

Goodshape

I loved Quantum Leap but never warmed to him in Enterprise. Always looked a little confused and uncomfortable.

Maybe that was there in Quantum Leap too, now that I think about it, but confused and uncomfortable was a part of the character in that show. The same didn't suit a pioneering star-ship captain, unfortunately

pixelburp

Bakula just didn't have the presence of authority to be a Captain; he could have worked as Tripp, or any of the other Bridge crew as an affable type. But not the captain. Just came across too hapless, beyond the simple premise of the series as a whole. Not sure who I'd have cast otherwise, and it certainly wasn't the biggest thing wrong with the show but "The Captain" is too big a casting decision to get wrong. Even Discovery, for all its problems, hit three pretty good casting choices for its rotating captaincy.

AMKC

pixelburp wrote: »

Bakula just didn't have the presence of authority to be a Captain; he could have worked as Tripp, or any of the other Bridge crew as an affable type. But not the captain. Just came across too hapless, beyond the simple premise of the series as a whole. Not sure who I'd have cast otherwise, and it certainly wasn't the biggest thing wrong with the show but "The Captain" is too big a casting decision to get wrong. Even Discovery, for all its problems, hit three pretty good casting choices for its rotating captaincy.

I think Liam Neeson could have made a great Captain but I would say he would have been way over budget or not interested. I think the problem with Scott was they wanted him to be a bit smug and arrogant and it came off as dry and boring. They should have let him have more freedom ho express Archer how he thought he should have been done for the episode. You can see how much better he played Archer in season 3 and 4. That is the Archer we should have got from the beginning.

pixelburp

AMKC wrote: »

I think Liam Neeson could have made a great Captain but I would say he would have been way over budget or not interested. I think the problem with Scott was they wanted him to be a bit smug and arrogant and it came off as dry and boring. They should have let him have more freedom ho express Archer how he thought he should have been done for the episode. You can see how much better he played Archer in season 3 and 4. That is the Archer we should have got from the beginning.

Actually, speaking of a smugger choice for captain, I just realised who'd have been the perfect early 2000s era genre actor to fill the chair instead of Bakula: Ben Browder. He was fantastic in Farscape as the token Human character (urgh, forced diversity lol), utterly out of his depth but his cockiness was never undimmed. He remained likeable so it was easy to cheer him on throughout his f*ck-ups. Never watched Stargate but believe he aquitted himself in that show as well.

Admittedly the shows overlapped so we would have lost out on *checks* two seasons of Crichton being both broadly useless yet indispensable to the show's plot & arcs

Evade

Ben Browder is awesome. His almost pathological need for his characters be a complete **** up in some way makes them great.

Stark

I also liked Bakula in Quantum Leap a lot for the record.

I think for the other captains, even when the actors were weak (like Shatner), there was a certain joy they brought to their roles that made them very enjoyable to watch. Like during the times when Shatner was speaking like he was struggling to read off a teleprompter, there was still a sense that he didn't want to be anywhere else. Similar with Avery Brooks and his off-kilter performance. The energy and the presence was always there. Anson Mount had that quality in spades, you could tell he was loving every minute he was on screen in the Pike role. Same for Mulgrew, whatever your opinions on Janeway, there was energy in every moment Mulgrew played her. Isaacs/Lorca ditto. Maybe not so much giddy enthusiasm with Stewart, though he was the most accomplished actor so heaps of gravitas there.

Just never really got that when watching Bakula play Archer.

TheValeyard

Liam Neeson in Trek? Sounds awesome, I'd watch it. Lol.


I think David Tennant could be a good Captain. Or Jon Hamm.





Edit: where's the Darts lad, sure he could create a few Liam Neeson ones for us.

a_squirrelman

TheValeyard wrote: »

Liam Neeson in Trek? Sounds awesome, I'd watch it. Lol.


I think David Tennant could be a good Captain. Or Jon Hamm.

He would be a great Borg, "I will find you and I will assimilate you".

TheValeyard

a_squirrelman wrote: »

He would be a great Borg, "I will find you and I will assimilate you".

And he probably would and all! While destroying Paris in the process.