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Rawr · 08-09-2020 8:09pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

And he probably would and all! While destroying Paris in the process.

TheValeyard · 08-09-2020 8:37pm

Rawr wrote: »

Unexpected Crossover Porno

Justin Credible Darts · 08-09-2020 8:48pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Liam Neeson in Trek? Sounds awesome, I'd watch it. Lol.

Edit: where's the Darts lad, sure he could create a few Liam Neeson ones for us.

Are you referring to myself ?

if so, as the old saying goes, here is one I made earlier

TheValeyard · 08-09-2020 8:55pm

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Are you referring to myself ?

if so, as the old saying goes, here is one I made earlier

Awesome

AMKC · 09-09-2020 8:35pm

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Are you referring to myself ?

if so, as the old saying goes, here is one I made earlier

Brilliant. Put him on the Enterprise NX-01 and the TOS Enterprise on the bridge in the Captains chair. That would be awesome. Then all we have to is convince Liam Neeson to do Trek lol.

Justin Credible Darts · 09-09-2020 9:20pm

done hundred of celebs in various uniforms......some here

https://gazomg-trek-art.blogspot.com/search/label/CELEBRITY%20CREW%20%232

TheValeyard · 09-09-2020 11:09pm

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

done hundred of celebs in various uniforms......some here

https://gazomg-trek-art.blogspot.com/search/label/CELEBRITY%20CREW%20%232

Actually Mandy would make a pretty cool Admiral or Fleet Captain.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/355ace1353347090

Cool Pic dude.

AMKC · 09-09-2020 11:51pm

I here Q could be about to make an appearance in Lower Decks. I am behind in it. Have two episodes to watch. Just have a lot on and not had the time to watch it. Everytime I say ok today something comes up.

Rawr · 11-09-2020 11:04am

AMKC wrote: »

I here Q could be about to make an appearance in Lower Decks. I am behind in it. Have two episodes to watch. Just have a lot on and not had the time to watch it. Everytime I say ok today something comes up.

It's a bit of headache to find that show on the "high-seas". I miss being able to just watch on a streaming app, now for each episode I need to get my PC and raise the Jolly Roger.

I do however find myself actively avoiding the Lower Decks thread here to avoid spoilers. I have missed doing that.

_Kaiser_ · 11-09-2020 1:56pm

Rawr wrote: »

It's a bit of headache to find that show on the "high-seas". I miss being able to just watch on a streaming app, now for each episode I need to get my PC and raise the Jolly Roger..

From what I've seen on some of the YouTube channels, Discovery season 3 doesn't have a confirmed distributor yet either (Netflix haven't confirmed).

May/may not be true but give LD wasn't picked up, it's certainly possible.

Rawr · 11-09-2020 2:04pm

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

From what I've seen on some of the YouTube channels, Discovery season 3 doesn't have a confirmed distributor yet either (Netflix haven't confirmed).

May/may not be true but give LD wasn't picked up, it's certainly possible.

Is possible, and such a barrier to watching it would put me a bit off watching much beyond the first episodes (unless they did a good job). I'm only going to the effort for Lower Desks because I'm enjoying it.

However there has been an announcement that Discovery Season 3 will be on Netflix on October 16.

If true, the Netflix algorithm should start spamming me with "Coming Soon" messages in early October.

Stark · 11-09-2020 2:05pm

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

From what I've seen on some of the YouTube channels, Discovery season 3 doesn't have a confirmed distributor yet either (Netflix haven't confirmed).

May/may not be true but give LD wasn't picked up, it's certainly possible.

Youtube **** stirrers

It's been confirmed for October 16th on Netflix.

Possibly some confusion as it'll only be on international Netflix, not Netflix USA or Canada where people will have to watch it on CBS.

pixelburp · 11-09-2020 2:11pm

Yeah, official site lists Netflix as international distrubtion. But hey, it's YouTube & Star Trek, gotta manufacture some kind of controversy to complain about. Just muck-raking blather.

As to Lower Decks, I'd not be surprised if this pops up after airing. It was always a bit of a very odd, risky swing so I'd speculate other broadcasters were simply waiting.

Stark · 11-09-2020 2:13pm

Yeah it'll be interesting to see. My first impression of Lower Decks after reading the synopsis, watching the trailers was "this is going to be complete drivel, no interest in watching" but after watching a few episodes, I'm hoping there is going to be a second season of it.

Still don't think I'll be pleasantly surprised by "Section 31" though

flazio · 11-09-2020 2:32pm

It'll be interesting to see what Netflix do with the Short Treks. The first 4 are under "Trailers and more" but the more recent ones don't directly apply to Discovery. Two of them could be argued are a test for Strange New Worlds. One is definitely Picard tied while the animated one is actually the closest to Discovery.

Rawr · 11-09-2020 2:35pm

Stark wrote: »

Yeah it'll be interesting to see. My first impression of Lower Decks after reading the synopsis, watching the trailers was "this is going to be complete drivel, no interest in watching" but after watching a few episodes, I'm hoping there is going to be a second season of it.

Still don't think I'll be pleasantly surprised by "Section 31" though

I would guess that Netflix or Prime might actually pick it up once they see that there's a good bit of love for the show. I'd watch more too. It might be a silly animated sitcom, but it's the most Trek thing I've seen in ages.

TheValeyard · 11-09-2020 2:55pm

Stark wrote: »

Yeah it'll be interesting to see. My first impression of Lower Decks after reading the synopsis, watching the trailers was "this is going to be complete drivel, no interest in watching" but after watching a few episodes, I'm hoping there is going to be a second season of it.

Still don't think I'll be pleasantly surprised by "Section 31" though

Pretty sure it's already renewed for 10 episode season two

AMKC · 11-09-2020 9:32pm

Rawr wrote: »

I would guess that Netflix or Prime might actually pick it up once they see that there's a good bit of love for the show. I'd watch more too. It might be a silly animated sitcom, but it's the most Trek thing I've seen in ages.

The same here and agreed.

AMKC · 11-09-2020 9:35pm

Rawr wrote: »

It's a bit of headache to find that show on the "high-seas". I miss being able to just watch on a streaming app, now for each episode I need to get my PC and raise the Jolly Roger.

I do however find myself actively avoiding the Lower Decks thread here to avoid spoilers. I have missed doing that.

I have not found it a headache or a problem to find. My only problem is getting the time to watch it. I prefer watching it in the evening when it's dark because then you can just let go and be a part of it.

12-09-2020 8:33am

Yeah I can't be doing with trying to hunt down shows any more these days either.

AMKC · 13-09-2020 10:44am

So when do you think the best time is for The Federation to make First Contact with another race. In the TNG episode First Contact thry make first contact before the race has warp drive in fact 10months before and had been studying them up to this but it seemed to be the wrong thing to do. I would say the timing the Vulcans had for First Contact was spot on. Any sooner and you risk frightening or destabilising a new race from taking there first big steps into the final frontier.

_Kaiser_ · 13-09-2020 1:16pm

AMKC wrote: »

So when do you think the best time is for The Federation to make First Contact with another race. In the TNG episode First Contact thry make first contact before the race has warp drive in fact 10months before and had been studying them up to this but it seemed to be the wrong thing to do. I would say the timing the Vulcans had for First Contact was spot on. Any sooner and you risk frightening or destabilising a new race from taking there first big steps into the final frontier.

Well as the Enterprise "In a Mirror, Darkly" two-parter showed, that's not necessarily the right time either

Myself I'd say let them make their first flight beyond their solar system but be ready to meet and greet at that point. Neutral ground and you don't run the risk of having your crew killed and ship boarded/stripped for its tech

pixelburp · 13-09-2020 2:13pm

It's a nice dramatic flourish but you'd imagine it's more than just warp drive being the watermark. Even thinking on First Contact (the movie), was Earth really all that ready? The film implied a lack of basic centralised government, hardly in a position to deal with alien encounters on a global level.

Were it me, it would have to be a sustained use of warp, out of the home system, coupled with a government of reasonable stability.

Actually there's a thought experiment.

The Fed discover a newly minted warp civilisation. The race however see it in purely expansionist terms - maybe they already know of other planets from advanced telescopes - and are fast tracking towards a war. A real xenophobic hotbed. How does the Prime Directive go when it's clear the race will nuke the first planet, fed or otherwise, they'll come across?

Evade · 13-09-2020 2:28pm

pixelburp wrote: »

The Fed discover a newly minted warp civilisation. The race however see it in purely expansionist terms - maybe they already know of other planets from advanced telescopes - and are fast tracking towards a war. A real xenophobic hotbed. How does the Prime Directive go when it's clear the race will nuke the first planet, fed or otherwise, they'll come across?

If it's a Federation planet Starfleet should respond and it would be a hilariously one sided conflict, like Conundrum. If it's a non Federation planet with warp capabilities and they asked the Federation for aid Starfleet could respond. If it's a pre-warp civilisation or they don't ask the Federation for aid well there's not much they can do legally.

It probably happens more than you'd think. I can't imagine the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Breen, etc. don't annex planets now and again.

Stark · 13-09-2020 3:02pm

Evade wrote: »

It probably happens more than you'd think. I can't imagine the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Breen, etc. don't annex planets now and again.

Like in the TOS episode "Errand of Mercy"

13-09-2020 4:46pm

Evade wrote: »

If it's a Federation planet Starfleet should respond and it would be a hilariously one sided conflict, like Conundrum. If it's a non Federation planet with warp capabilities and they asked the Federation for aid Starfleet could respond. If it's a pre-warp civilisation or they don't ask the Federation for aid well there's not much they can do legally.

It probably happens more than you'd think. I can't imagine the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Breen, etc. don't annex planets now and again.

There is a weird one, in where non-advanced planets fall within Federation territory. I would imagine it would be easy there where any fleet leaving its own system would be told "Get out of Federation space (which just happens to surround your system...)", same for a race coming into Federation space to attack a pre warp system.

Evade · 13-09-2020 4:55pm

The belligerent enclave in Federation space would be a weird edge case. Eventually they'd probably just be absorbed into the Federation after decades or centuries of isolation. That or there'd be a road to Berlin situation where they have a narrow corridor they're allowed to freely use to exit Federation Space.

pixelburp · 13-09-2020 4:58pm

Evade wrote: »

If it's a Federation planet Starfleet should respond and it would be a hilariously one sided conflict, like Conundrum. If it's a non Federation planet with warp capabilities and they asked the Federation for aid Starfleet could respond. If it's a pre-warp civilisation or they don't ask the Federation for aid well there's not much they can do legally.

It probably happens more than you'd think. I can't imagine the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Breen, etc. don't annex planets now and again.

I dunno, was thinking of non Fed targets too. Inferior belligerents don't equate to quick victory, otherwise ISIS would have been squashed ages ago. So if the enemy was sufficiently motivated in some kind of xenophobic crusade, armed with nukes or something equivalent, it could stretch the Feds non interventionist policies.

Evade · 13-09-2020 5:05pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I dunno, was thinking of non Fed targets too. Inferior belligerents don't equate to quick victory, otherwise ISIS would have been squashed ages ago.

I think any intentional conquest like that would have to use a standing military, it's hard to hide a warship in a crowd of civilians. So in that case taking fleets on the level of the NX Enterprise and throwing them against the late 24th century Starfleet it would be laughably one sided.

pixelburp wrote: »

So if the enemy was sufficiently motivated in some kind of xenophobic crusade, armed with nukes or something equivalent, it could stretch the Feds non interventionist policies.

Bajor would disagree. Assuming you ignore the hard numbers of the Occupation and take it more as it was implied to be.

Sleepy · 14-09-2020 11:30am

pixelburp wrote: »

It's a nice dramatic flourish but you'd imagine it's more than just warp drive being the watermark. Even thinking on First Contact (the movie), was Earth really all that ready? The film implied a lack of basic centralised government, hardly in a position to deal with alien encounters on a global level.

The idea that the discovery that we're not alone in the universe was a leading contributor to the unification of Earth was an aspect of First Contact that I've always loved. It seemed the perfect explanation of how humanity could be spurred towards a "one world government".

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