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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,677 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Evade wrote: »
    It was.

    It was for too much like a Federation era Starfleet ship for me. Because of that it kind of implies all Federation Starfleet ship designs are mostly derived from human technology as opposed to a big collaborative effort.

    Perhaps but doesn't that kinda make sense given that most Starfleef personnel on the shows are human?


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,987 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    There was a fan theory that suggested there are ships with majority Vulcan crew, majority Andorian crew etc. due to the practicalities of each species having different environment preferences. Though I would have expected to see ships with style influences from the Vulcan and Andorian ships shown on Ent in the big TNG and DS9 battle scenes if that was the case.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,470 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It's also a good job all those Federation species are bipeds; no need for species neutral consoles, chairs, doors... toilets? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    Perhaps but doesn't that kinda make sense given that most Starfleef personnel on the shows are human?
    Not really. Presumably the Federation Starfleet would want to incorporate the best technologies from all member races but because NX Enterprise has all the visual cues of the 24th century ships (red impulse engines aside) it implies that the race with the least space faring experience just happened to create the best technology.

    If, for example, NX Enterprise had a brownish hull, purple warp nacelle glow, yellow bussards, and white phasers and then throughout the series you see that the Vulcan ships had blue nacelle glow and red bussards, Andorian ships had orange phasers, and Tellarite ships had greyish hulls in a primary/secondary configuration it would retroactively make the Federation Starfleet ships look much more like a collaboration.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    pixelburp wrote: »
    It's also a good job all those Federation species are bipeds; no need for species neutral consoles, chairs, doors... toilets? :D
    Most of them have a common ancestor. There's a TAS character with three arms and legs.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,470 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Evade wrote: »
    Most of them have a common ancestor. There's a TAS character with three arms and legs.

    That noise you hear in the background is the Canon Police on their way to have words with you ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Niska


    pixelburp wrote: »
    It's also a good job all those Federation species are bipeds; no need for species neutral consoles, chairs, doors... toilets? :D

    Well, except for Cetacean Ops.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    pixelburp wrote: »
    That noise you hear in the background is the Canon Police on their way to have words with you ;)
    TAS was recanonised for some reason.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    pixelburp wrote: »
    It's also a good job all those Federation species are bipeds; no need for species neutral consoles, chairs, doors... toilets? :D

    Enterprise D had a Cetacean Ops


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,987 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Have to use all that space for something I guess.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Stark wrote: »
    Have to use all that space for something I guess.

    Most of the empty space in a ship is used for free floating turbolift caverns :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    pixelburp wrote: »
    It's also a good job all those Federation species are bipeds; no need for species neutral consoles, chairs, doors... toilets? :D

    Toilets......Bolians......tricky.

    All Eyes On Rafah



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,470 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Niska wrote: »
    Well, except for Cetacean Ops.
    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Enterprise D had a Cetacean Ops

    The Canon Police are coming for you too.

    And, possibly, all those Seaquest DSV fans out there; all five of them. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    pixelburp wrote: »
    The Canon Police are coming for you too.

    And, possibly, all those Seaquest DSV fans out there; all five of them. :pac:

    7 of us actually


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    7 of us actually

    I enjoyed Seaquest before it got totally silly in the last season.

    All Eyes On Rafah



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I enjoyed Seaquest before it got totally silly in the last season.

    I didn't even know there was a season with a new captain or an alien abduction story


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,470 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    7 of us actually
    I enjoyed Seaquest before it got totally silly in the last season.
    breezy1985 wrote: »
    I didn't even know there was a season with a new captain or an alien abduction story

    My God Bones, what have I done?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,049 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    7 of us actually
    Actually 8 know. I always loved Seaquest DSV.
    Thought about buying the model but never bothered in the end.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    The only things I think I remember about Seaquest is it's a submarine, there's a kid with dolphin, and there's a time travel element thing near the the end where the Seaquest travels a few years into the future and in one of the episodes the kid shows his ID with his original birthday on it and the guy checking it doesn't believe it's really him because he clearly doesn't look that old. Yes that last point is weirdly specific.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Evade wrote: »
    The only things I think I remember about Seaquest is it's a submarine, there's a kid with dolphin, and there's a time travel element thing near the the end where the Seaquest travels a few years into the future and in one of the episodes the kid shows his ID with his original birthday on it and the guy checking it doesn't believe it's really him because he clearly doesn't look that old. Yes that last point is weirdly specific.

    All I remember about Seaquest are depressing Sunday nights before school


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,946 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    All I remember about Seaquest are depressing Sunday nights before school

    That was 50 percent of its audience... school kids looking for distraction while summoning will power to finish homework!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭Rawr


    pixelburp wrote: »
    My God Bones, what have I done?

    What you had to do, what you always do. Turn a Trek tread into a fighting chance to talk about Seaquest DSV.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Never knew it even got a Sega Genesis game

    https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/seaquest-dsv/screenshots


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Never knew it even got a Sega Genesis game

    https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/seaquest-dsv/screenshots

    I remember having it on the Gameboy, as far as I remember it was a bit ****e! I used to love the TNG gameboy game though


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    ENT was not a starfleet ship, nor was DS9. Hardly imaginative or original.
    why should that ship be anything like the MF of star trek? It's just a random ship that we have no reason to care about, like a shuttle craft or similar.

    Picard was not as bad as DIS but I'm also in no hurry to rewatch, it was very poor overall with a total mess of a plot that was all over the place.

    And for the record LD is hilarious.

    I actually meant a Starfleet crew, not ship.

    Archer’s Enterprise was a Starfleet in all but name. And DS9 was under the command of Starfleet. In Picard they are civilian adventurers. For Trek that is imaginative and original.

    And being the Millennium Falcon of Star Trek means used and beat up. It would be more interesting than the ship they have.

    Lower Decks is not hilarious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade



    Archer’s Enterprise was a Starfleet in all but name.
    Technically it was Starfleet in name.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    Evade wrote: »
    Technically it was Starfleet in name.

    Did they call it Starfleet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    Did they call it Starfleet?
    Yeah, United Earth Starfleet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Evade wrote: »
    Yeah, United Earth Starfleet.

    Was definitely called Starfleet, sometimes Pinkskins.

    All Eyes On Rafah



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    Why does Michael Chabon keep writing blog posts about the recent history and background about events in STP? Does he not realise he had an entire 10 episode series that he squandered where some of these points could have been explored? Apparently Romulans are thruples but the only Romulan couple in the series, apart from the siblings, gave no hint of this.


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