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    #1442
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,501 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That sounds like the Destiny Trilogy
    They basically realised that the Borg were destroyed by Voyager so wrote them out as a threat. turned out that the reason that the Borg had a hard on for Earth was because of a time travel cock up meaning that the first drones were human

    still can't decide if I actually like that series or not...


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    #1443
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I just watched The Visitor again...god damn it :(


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    #1444
    Goldstein
    Registered Users Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    Kiith wrote: »
    I just watched The Visitor again...god damn it :(

    Dammit Kurn!


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    #1445
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Kiith wrote: »
    I just watched The Visitor again...god damn it :(

    That episode makes even non fans cry, my gf can attest to that :o


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    #1446
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Caught the end of TNG's Contagion earlier. Format and reinstall the Enterprise, be grand. :pac:

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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    #1447
    Fuzzytrooper
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 896 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fuzzytrooper


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    still can't decide if I actually like that series or not...

    I like the original pieces but I don't think David Mack ever writes established characters well or even in character. It comes across as extreme fanboyism and its very easy to see who his favorites are. Picard never came across as very Picard-ish and Dax is very obviously his favorite. Neither seemed slightly in tune with the tv series' or even other non David Mack books.

    Also he regularly goes for universe shattering stories which totally mess with continuity. I'd normally have no problem with this but the content (massive battles ZOOM ZOOM POW!!!!) and the constant high stakes smack a bit too much of over glorified fan fiction. Star trek did have large battles but that was never the central focus.


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    #1448
    crazyderk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭crazyderk


    I started Watching DS9 on Netflix the other day. 3 episodes in and im really liking it.


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    #1449
    Beefy78
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    For the first time??? You lucky so-and-so.


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    #1450
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    If you already like it, just wait till it really kicks off after season 3. Was good before that, but becomes great after.


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    #1451
    crazyderk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭crazyderk


    Oh no I've seen it before but it was when it was first on TV back in the 90's don't think I've really seen it since. I was a bit nervous the first few series would be crap before Worf steps in but I'm surprised at how good it is. Garek from the get go is a great character. I'm surpirsed at how well it has stood up to the test of time.
    I'm sure there will be one or two cheesy episodes but sure I can live with that!


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    #1452
    Al Capwned
    Registered Users Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    DS9 - the best of all trek shows.


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    #1453
    Beefy78
    Registered Users Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    It is great, and by far my favourite Sci-Fi series ever, but tbh I struggle with a large chunk of those first 50 episodes. There's some great stuff there but it comes on massively once the actors and the writers find their feet.


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    #1454
    IvySlayer
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    Allamaraine count to four
    Allamaraine then three more
    Allamaraine if you can see
    Allamaraine you'll come with me


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    #1455
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users Posts: 10,743 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    I read that in Kira's voice :D

    She loved it, even if she wanted to show that she hated it :)


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    #1456
    Al Capwned
    Registered Users Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    I had a serious thing for Kira.....
    Niiiiice.


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    #1457
    crazyderk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭crazyderk


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Allamaraine count to four
    Allamaraine then three more
    Allamaraine if you can see
    Allamaraine you'll come with me

    That's the episode that had me in a cringe and not looking forward to the first couple of seasons!


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    #1458
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,656 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Al Capwned wrote: »
    I had a serious thing for Kira.....
    Niiiiice.

    couldnt get past the name tbh

    Nana.. too weird :pac:


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    #1459
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    helimachoptor wrote: »
    couldnt get past the name tbh

    Nana.. too weird :pac:

    I was like...Kira Nana Nerys? I don't remember them ever mentioning that :o


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    #1460
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users Posts: 10,743 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    helimachoptor wrote: »
    couldnt get past the name tbh

    Nana.. too weird :pac:

    visitor - even weirder :D


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    #1461
    IvySlayer
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    Voyagers Engineering crew must be wondering what they ever did to deserve how they are treated

    A Maquis is made chief engineer, if Torres is off the ship or in sickbay Seven or Harry are put in charge :P


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    #1462
    368100
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    crazyderk wrote: »
    Yes sorry I meant Worf:D:D:D:D:D

    Mr Woof :-)


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    #1463
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,501 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Voyagers Engineering crew must be wondering what they ever did to deserve how they are treated

    A Maquis is made chief engineer, if Torres is off the ship or in sickbay Seven or Harry are put in charge :P

    and poor old Vorik, demoted into obscurity after some reasonable promise in the early eps.


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    #1464
    IvySlayer
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    and poor old Vorik, demoted into obscurity after some reasonable promise in the early eps.

    Same with Carey, randomly appeared in Season 7 than BAM, killed. Future Janeway didn't bother to go back in time to save him


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    #1465
    The Black Oil
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    https://twitter.com/AstroSamantha/status/589035429879513088

    Well played. :)

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

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    #1466
    KingBrian2
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    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Voyagers Engineering crew must be wondering what they ever did to deserve how they are treated

    A Maquis is made chief engineer, if Torres is off the ship or in sickbay Seven or Harry are put in charge :P

    Voyager was composed of a crew built on personal trust and individual talent,
    Without which the ship would not have been able to operate.

    Janeway was a good Capt considering what she had to work with, balancing the demands of heated crewmembers like Torres with disciplined Star Fleet Officers who had suffered enormously from being left deserted in the Delta Quadrant with nobody to turn to for assistance.


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    #1467
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,501 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Voyager was composed of a crew built on personal trust and individual talent,
    Without which the ship would not have been able to operate.

    Janeway was a good Capt considering what she had to work with, balancing the demands of heated crewmembers like Torres with disciplined Star Fleet Officers who had suffered enormously from being left deserted in the Delta Quadrant with nobody to turn to for assistance.

    The maquis crew (inc Paris) got a disproportionately high number of command positions though. First Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Conn (Pity Stadi didn't survive to add some glamour)


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    #1468
    Myrddin
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    The maquis crew (inc Paris) got a disproportionately high number of command positions though. First Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Conn (Pity Stadi didn't survive to add some glamour)

    They did, but making Chakotay XO was an example of Janeway wanting the two crews to feel as one, & luckily for her Chakotay seen it that way too. Torres & Paris were simply the best people for those roles, with a lot of the original crew killed in the move to the Delta Quadrant.


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    #1469
    Cookie_Monster
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    Myrddin wrote: »
    They did, but making Chakotay XO was an example of Janeway wanting the two crews to feel as one, & luckily for her Chakotay seen it that way too. Torres & Paris were simply the best people for those roles, with a lot of the original crew killed in the move to the Delta Quadrant.

    Torres was definitely questionable.

    You have to imagine that Paris promotion would have caused huge resentment among the crew as well. They may have accepted the need to combine crews and have maquis in certain roles but someone would was in jail for treason and had been honourably discharged for killing three people and a fairly unlike-able guy at the start being promoted to a senior role


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    #1470
    KingBrian2
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    Torres was definitely questionable.

    You have to imagine that Paris promotion would have caused huge resentment among the crew as well. They may have accepted the need to combine crews and have maquis in certain roles but someone would was in jail for treason and had been honourably discharged for killing three people and a fairly unlike-able guy at the start being promoted to a senior role

    Yeah but your forgetting he was cool and got on with everyone bar the Doctor, he even managed to impress Torres.


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    #1471
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Yeah but your forgetting he was cool and got on with everyone bar the Doctor, he even managed to impress Torres.

    That's because everyone who hated him was killed by the Caretaker. Seems a little convenient to me...hmm, maybe he was the Caretaker all along!! :eek:

    Seriously though, after reading up on some Voyager episodes recently, i see a run through in the near future. I've not seen it in ages, and am looking forward to at least some of it.


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