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dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »TOS may be hard going if you didn't grow up with it, but I think it's still awesome.
You have to bear in mind that Mr Spock's ears were made in Fred Phillips kitchen (according to legend), the transporter effect was glitter in a glass of water, stirred and filmed and overlaid over the charcter, there are strings holding up the Enterprise, the scenery wobbles and the rocks are very obviously styrofoam. The acting is patchy and 60's attitudes are sometimes hard to grasp today.
There is even a plant in Zulu's room that is very obviously a hand in a glove sticking out through the table:
BUT!
I still think that everything Trek stands for is there. It is a critique of the human condition. By creating the perfect society, Rodenberry shows up the imperfections of ours.
It dealt with so many issues about race, gender, religion, the cold war and the human condition in general. Star Trek was never about space and spaceships and technology. Those were just vehicles for the story. It doesn't matter how the Heisenberg compensator works, it only matters what you can do with it in the story.
Nichelle Nichols was so important to the show as a strong female and black character that Martin Luther King asked her to stay when she wanted to quit.
It may look naff, but still to this day it is great, personally to me because it dealt with mindbending conundrums that were literally lightyears ahead of the human race back then and still are now. I love it in all it's cheesiness, greatness, ugliness, beauty and strangeness. Just imagine what else would have been on telly in 1967.
This is no joke, but having watched mad men I have a totally new perspective on the original series.0 -
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dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »TOS may be hard going if you didn't grow up with it, but I think it's still awesome.
You have to bear in mind that Mr Spock's ears were made in Fred Phillips kitchen (according to legend), the transporter effect was glitter in a glass of water, stirred and filmed and overlaid over the charcter, there are strings holding up the Enterprise, the scenery wobbles and the rocks are very obviously styrofoam. The acting is patchy and 60's attitudes are sometimes hard to grasp today.
There is even a plant in Zulu's room that is very obviously a hand in a glove sticking out through the table:
BUT!
I still think that everything Trek stands for is there. It is a critique of the human condition. By creating the perfect society, Rodenberry shows up the imperfections of ours.
It dealt with so many issues about race, gender, religion, the cold war and the human condition in general. Star Trek was never about space and spaceships and technology. Those were just vehicles for the story. It doesn't matter how the Heisenberg compensator works, it only matters what you can do with it in the story.
Nichelle Nichols was so important to the show as a strong female and black character that Martin Luther King asked her to stay when she wanted to quit.
It may look naff, but still to this day it is great, personally to me because it dealt with mindbending conundrums that were literally lightyears ahead of the human race back then and still are now. I love it in all it's cheesiness, greatness, ugliness, beauty and strangeness. Just imagine what else would have been on telly in 1967.
Great post, & how I feel myself about TOS too
The only thing I'd ad is that the HD versions of TOS make it far, far, FAR easier to watch than the original (strings holding up the ship etc replaced with pretty nice CGI). The video quality is excellent, & it feels like you're almost watching a new show 0 -
Great post, & how I feel myself about TOS too The only thing I'd ad is that the HD versions of TOS make it far, far, FAR easier to watch than the original (strings holding up the ship etc replaced with pretty nice CGI). The video quality is excellent, & it feels like you're almost watching a new show
I know what you mean, but for me it has to be strings all the way. I'm with South Park on that.
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dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »Tuvok as Walter White?
No wonder it's blue....it's a blue meth chamber, cooking non stop!
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Blaire Loose Spaghetti wrote: »Just watched the defector on TNG.
"Are you ready to die today Tomolok? ....then let's die together."
Picard was almost Klingon in his delivery
That's what I love about Picard. He is a supreme diplomat, has the kind of people skills that will get you to follow him into anything, he knows that tricky situations in the face of the enemy are not chess, but poker, in short he will use his intelligence over force every time and he doesn't get blinded by emotions.
But when his back is up against the wall he is as gung-ho, daring and dangerous as they come. As we have seen in Tapestry, it's what makes him what he is. Picard to me is as awesome as they come. When you look at Kirk, Cisco and Janeway, this seems to be a requirement for Star Fleet captains, cool, controlled, intelligent and always seeking out the peaceful solution, but dangerous bastards when cornered. But I have to say it again, Picard rules supreme IMO.
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVkrqzmM16s
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