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Indricotherium wrote: »The other three series are about conquistadors like Picard, Kirk, and Janeway, which is great fun, however, possibly a more interesting way for DS9 to go, would have been to leave out the wormhole and all that guff for a while and just focus on showing the washed up Sisko, wile the Bajorans out of what was left of their nation and planet.
As it is, the Federation more or less commandeers the only resource worth anything in the Bajoran system and uses it more or less as it pleases.
Any time at all that the question of Bajoran territorial possession of the wormhole comes up, the Federation rides roughshod over their rights to it's own ends.
You've not been around for a while, but I see you've still got it dude
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Deleted User wrote: »Bashir was offered "real" postings but refused so as to do frontier medicine
So how does that prove he was 'washed up'?
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Indricotherium wrote: »DS9 only turned out to be important after the crew had been assigned. It was a backwater where they were sticking hard to place liabilities like Sisko, Laren and Bashir.
O'Brien is an NCO and while he's surely talented, he was one of hundreds on the Enterprise.
I'll concede the point that at the time of assignments, DS9 was effectively a ****hole in the middle of nowhere. I don't agree though that Bashir or anyone else other than Sisko would have been considered washed up. Bashir had the pick of assignments, he chose DS9, they didn't stick him anywhere. This is all somewhat besides the point though, I'm not convinced the Bajoran government would have wanted anything to do with Ro...she betrayed everyone she was ever aligned to at one time or another, & just isn't officer or command material. Of course, if Michelle Forbes hadn't turned down the role this would all be moot...but still
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I'll concede the point that at the time of assignments, DS9 was effectively a ****hole in the middle of nowhere. I don't agree though that Bashir or anyone else other than Sisko would have been considered washed up. Bashir had the pick of assignments, he chose DS9, they didn't stick him anywhere. This is all somewhat besides the point though, I'm not convinced the Bajoran government would have wanted anything to do with Ro...she betrayed everyone she was ever aligned to at one time or another, & just isn't officer or command material. Of course, if Michelle Forbes hadn't turned down the role this would all be moot...but still
Exactly, Bashir chose DS9, a backwater, and while at the time he guffs on about wanting to be on the frontier, practicing real medicine, this was revealed for the rouse that it was later.
He simply didn't want a high profile post, as it risked his background being more stringently examined.
It's worth noting that upon him attracting the least bit of attention, his false identity falls apart and he is revealed for the cheat and fraud that he is.0 -
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degrassinoel wrote: »Kira might have, she's a good fit especially after Voyager's end when the entire maquis crew were basically told, ahh it's okay, it was only a few cardi's and a bit of high treason, ye'll be grand
I don't think so. The Maquis on Voyager made a concerted effort to fit in and abide by the rules (in itself bad writing really). By the time Voyager got home, Janeway would have testified beyond doubt that she owed she and the rest of the Starfleet crew owed their lives to the remaining Maquis crew members. I think their actions over the seven years speak for themselves.
Ro however, betrayed everyone she ever aligned herself to. It wouldn't have been long before she screwed up on DS9...the Bajoran Government was distancing itself from the Maquis too, & was developing its own legitimate military. While I like the character, she's nowhere near command officer material....except in dodgy non canon fan fiction
Edit - you mention Kira, is this a typo or am I misunderstanding?0 -
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I don't think so. The Maquis on Voyager made a concerted effort to fit in and abide by the rules (in itself bad writing really). By the time Voyager got home, Janeway would have testified beyond doubt that she owed she and the rest of the Starfleet crew owed their lives to the remaining Maquis crew members. I think their actions over the seven years speak for themselves.
Ro however, betrayed everyone she ever aligned herself to. It wouldn't have been long before she screwed up on DS9...the Bajoran Government was distancing itself from the Maquis too, & was developing its own legitimate military. While I like the character, she's nowhere near command officer material....except in dodgy non canon fan fiction
Edit - you mention Kira, is this a typo or am I misunderstanding?
The maquis on voyager were complicit in and accessories to Janeways habitual breaking of the prime directive and temporal prime directive.0 -
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I don't think so. The Maquis on Voyager made a concerted effort to fit in and abide by the rules (in itself bad writing really). By the time Voyager got home, Janeway would have testified beyond doubt that she owed she and the rest of the Starfleet crew owed their lives to the remaining Maquis crew members. I think their actions over the seven years speak for themselves.
Ro however, betrayed everyone she ever aligned herself to. It wouldn't have been long before she screwed up on DS9...the Bajoran Government was distancing itself from the Maquis too, & was developing its own legitimate military. While I like the character, she's nowhere near command officer material....except in dodgy non canon fan fiction
Edit - you mention Kira, is this a typo or am I misunderstanding?
Wasnt she the commander of DS9 at the end? If Ro was an option for command by Kira and she wasnt killed by the Jem'Hdar when they purged the badlands, i reckon she'd have been a good fit.
She has no love for Cardassians, like any Bajoran, and by the end of DS9 Cardassia was crippled by the alliance's invasion and their own insurrection. Which would mean the threat from Cardassia would be minimal for a long time, which in turn would mean that Ro's obvious capability as an officer wouldnt prove to be such a hinderance with that threat all but removed.
Yeah Kira was in reply to
because she'd be precisely the one person on Bajor or DS9 that would choose a misfit over anyone else. Ro would make a good tactical officer tbh"because the Bajoran government would never have put a known Maquis member in as XO on DS9."0 -
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Some News on the new Series.
A Poster at last
http://www.treknews.net/2016/03/25/star-trek-all-access-teaser-poster/Live long and Prosper
Peace and long life.
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Indricotherium wrote: »[*]A Tom Paris origin
Well once upon a time, Admiral Paris and Mrs Paris loved each other very much...
But seriously, retreading old ground is not what Trek needs to be doing - it didn't work out well with ENT and the first of the new movies was decent if viewed as disposable action comedy fare but far from what Trek is about (the second was shyte and the third doesn't look much better). We already know Kirk and Co's story.. we don't need this "new and improved" version IMO.
Something set back in the original universe and post-Nemesis is what's needed.0 -
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