LETS ALL LAUGH AT PEOPLE WITH DEPRESSION!!

murria

Kauto0709 wrote: »

Went to an Aware support group meeting tonight. It was ok......wasn't really for me.

Kauto0709, I recall someone posting recently that they had been to a couple of different Aware groups and they reckoned it was necessary to go to more than one meeting to get a feel for it. Might be worth a second visit.

Mam of 4

Can I just ask a question here?

Does anyone get more anxious when the rain is very heavy ? My son does, but just wanted to put that question out there as I know the weather; sunlight , dark days can affect all of our moods.

murria

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Can I just ask a question here?

Does anyone get more anxious when the rain is very heavy ? My son does, but just wanted to put that question out there as I know the weather; sunlight , dark days can affect all of our moods.

Mam of 4, I find a lot of our students get very agitated by heavy rain, we usually put it down to cabin fever and not being able to get out and let off steam, never thought it might be a direct reaction to the rain. We see the biggest change in behaviour when it's very windy.

Mam of 4

murria wrote: »

Mam of 4, I find a lot of our students get very agitated by heavy rain, we usually put it down to cabin fever and not being able to get out and let off steam, never thought it might be a direct reaction to the rain. We see the biggest change in behaviour when it's very windy.

Thanks Murria. Have to say, the wind doesn't seem to make his level of anxiety increase to the same extent, strange one . At least the rain has stopped here now, anxiety has abated for the moment. Thank you..

delthedriver

murria wrote: »

Mam of 4, I find a lot of our students get very agitated by heavy rain, we usually put it down to cabin fever and not being able to get out and let off steam, never thought it might be a direct reaction to the rain. We see the biggest change in behaviour when it's very windy.

Interesting, where I live , my home is quite exposed to the Atlantic coastline.

I must say that I become quite uncomfortable when it is very windy. TBH I am not a great fan of the heavy rain we have been experiencing recently.
I can't explain it really.

Perhaps I was designed to live in a warmer climate, I am still wearing shorts and Tshirt. It was 17 Degrees this afternoon with warm sunshine.

The weather certainly has an impact on our mood:)

Drumpot

Drumpot wrote: »

I don't mean to keep saying the same things over and over again, but it was only when I stopped looking for external things to make me happy/fulfilled did I find peace of sorts. If you are relying on a job to give you satisfaction in life, then perhaps you never learned to just be happy with whom you are. I know I didn't and I know as a society people are actually encouraged to want to be somebody - model, actor, rich business person etc etc . . The sense of achievement in peoples lives is measured by their financial pockets and their social standing. This is ridiculous when you think that we all end up in the exact same place when we die, irrespective of our jobs or financial power. What I want more then anything is just to be happy with whom I am . . This might not pay the bills but in the longer term if I am comfortable with whom I am, I believe I have a far greater chance of achieving and being successful in areas that are now lacking.

Personally, I think my job should never make me anxious or upset. Its just a job, its only important to make money to survive. Its more important that I enjoy my job and feel at peace with how I do business, then striving to get recognition from my "peers", people who I don't really care about. In many regards I have not been as financially successful as I could of been if I was the standard salesperson, but I sleep better knowing I give sound/impartial advice (even if its with less funds in my pockets). . .

Thanks for writing all this. I'd love to be able to put less emphasis on academic achievement and jobs - I've had counselling to try and tackle this but I'm afraid it still consumes me a lot. I guess having been top of my class in first and second level, and not really being good at anything else, I tended to value myself as my academic record. If I don't get a high paying job I would somehow feel like I'm worth less. Seeing peers of mine, even people I never talk to anymore, go on to do PhDs or get high paying entry level jobs just sickens me, because I always feel like I should be doing what they're doing. (And yeah I know PhDs get shít pay but there's a certain "prestige" (for lack of a better word) associated with it - I don't particularly want to do a PhD but I feel like by not doing one the rest of the world will automatically assume I'm too stupid to do one. Weird I know but I can't help feel somehow inadequate in that regard....)

I've no interest in getting married or ever having kids, and I don't want a massive mortgage or loan for a fancy car hanging over my neck like an albatross. I do, however, want financial security and make enough money such that after all the bills are paid I still have enough to socialise or buy luxuries or put towards travel etc. The prospect of working 40 hour weeks only to make just enough money to pay the bills and necessities....it's a sickening thought.

When my mind wanders and I start to get upset at where I am financially, I try to remember something that sometimes helps me get back to reality. If I was on a hospital bed, paralysed, unable to communicate with those around me, with no clear idea if I would ever recover . . Would I be upset that I never used my degree (I don't really)? Would I be upset that I didn't work harder in my job for a promotion ? Would I be upset that I didn't get "that" job ? Would I be upset that I didn't spend more time worrying that I never found a fulfilling job?

I think I would be more upset that I didn't spend more time being good to myself. That I didn't allow myself more time to relax. That I didn't spend more quality time improving/enhancing my relationships with family/friends. That I spent so much time agonising, worrying about a job that in the end isn't really that important in the scheme of things.

But perhaps, people who don't have jobs should make finding a job secondary to finding peace with themselves. This doesn't mean you stop looking for a job, you just don't let it consume you . . Don't make it that when you aren't applying or trying to get a job, that you are worrying about the fact you haven't got one . . Apportion time to job hunting and time to working on yourself. Once you are finished job hunting you can make it that you do not waste anymore of your time thinking about something you cannot really control. Make your mental health your number 1 priority and perhaps by doing so you will find looking for a job that little bit less daunting. Perhaps by making a job less important to how you feel, you will be more confident in interviews, be more confident applying for different kinds of jobs and make you see things about your life that you were unable to see (you might consider a completely different profession).

There are some really positive messages there and good ways of looking at things. I'd be telling anybody else that it doesn't matter how prestigious or high-paying their job is, but I can never apply that standard to me. I don't know, I guess I need people to recognise me as being worthwhile and good at something because I can never recognise those things in myself. I expect so much of myself while simultaneously reminding myself how much I suck at everything.....I've tried to escape this way of thinking but it really just isn't working.

Anyway thanks again for that post Drumpot. Certainly a lot of food for thought there.

Reiketsu

I've been finding that my mood gets low in the evenings the past few days. Also just restless and disinterested in everything. I feel I might need something to occupy myself. I start thinking and make myself even worse.

Timmyctc

My graduation today, and despite how good it made me feel I couldn't escape the fact that I felt I didn't deserve any of the attention/merits. I ended up leaving the club early because of this in the evening too. Quite raging and quite annoyed. Quite drunk too atm so cannot elabortate really. Sorry for the rant

murria

Timmyctc wrote: »

My graduation today, and despite how good it made me feel I couldn't escape the fact that I felt I didn't deserve any of the attention/merits. I ended up leaving the club early because of this in the evening too. Quite raging and quite annoyed. Quite drunk too atm so cannot elabortate really. Sorry for the rant

"Big" celebratory days are often hard to handle, I think we anticipate them too much and end up sabotaging the day. Also, your the third person in the last couple of days round these parts with the drinking blues!! I'm saying nothing because I do it myself, but just making a point.

Hope you're feeling better after tea and painkillers. Please stop beating yourself up, of course you deserve the attention. Congratulations on your graduation.

Drumpot

Deleted User wrote: »

Thanks for writing all this. I'd love to be able to put less emphasis on academic achievement and jobs - I've had counselling to try and tackle this but I'm afraid it still consumes me a lot. I guess having been top of my class in first and second level, and not really being good at anything else, I tended to value myself as my academic record. If I don't get a high paying job I would somehow feel like I'm worth less. Seeing peers of mine, even people I never talk to anymore, go on to do PhDs or get high paying entry level jobs just sickens me, because I always feel like I should be doing what they're doing. (And yeah I know PhDs get shít pay but there's a certain "prestige" (for lack of a better word) associated with it - I don't particularly want to do a PhD but I feel like by not doing one the rest of the world will automatically assume I'm too stupid to do one. Weird I know but I can't help feel somehow inadequate in that regard....)

I've no interest in getting married or ever having kids, and I don't want a massive mortgage or loan for a fancy car hanging over my neck like an albatross. I do, however, want financial security and make enough money such that after all the bills are paid I still have enough to socialise or buy luxuries or put towards travel etc. The prospect of working 40 hour weeks only to make just enough money to pay the bills and necessities....it's a sickening thought.



There are some really positive messages there and good ways of looking at things. I'd be telling anybody else that it doesn't matter how prestigious or high-paying their job is, but I can never apply that standard to me. I don't know, I guess I need people to recognise me as being worthwhile and good at something because I can never recognise those things in myself. I expect so much of myself while simultaneously reminding myself how much I suck at everything.....I've tried to escape this way of thinking but it really just isn't working.

Anyway thanks again for that post Drumpot. Certainly a lot of food for thought there.

Thanks for that . .

I was thinking more about my post and wanted to add to it if you don't mind. When writing stuff I imagine how I have dealt with certain aspects of my life and hope others can relate it in their own. For me, my academic achievements (have a few, nothing crazy) were never important to me. For me, finding a partner to love and having a family was my benchmark. . So substitute academic achievement with family/partner below and perhaps my story somewhat resonates with yours.

I am so lucky in that I met a wonderful woman and have a lovely family. The problem was that it didn't solve my depression. Sure it makes me happy, but it didn't solve my problem. I could be wrong, but I am making the broad assumption that a similar thing would possibly happen with people who put all their eggs in the academic/job basket (as opposed to the "family" basket). I spent all my time building and working towards a family, at the expense of tackling my own mental health. Eventually, when I had the wife, the kids, the dog, the house . . I had nowhere else to look at . . I had reached the pinnacle of my desires but yet I was still unhappy . . Why ? For me its because I thought I was unhappy because I didn't have what I most desired when in truth it was that I never learned to be happy with myself or whom I was.

The biggest problem for me was that when I had everything I desired I started to think that I would never be happy. What does the person who has the main thing they desired in life do when even this doesn't keep them happy ? This is where suicidal thoughts were a consideration. I also relied on prescription drugs and alcohol to numb the thoughts in my head (thoughts that life is horrible and I would always feel like this)....

I was reminded at the depression seminar (thanks Devore) that giving advice can literally kill somebody, so I am trying to be more careful about how I word things (again trying to tell my story and hope others can relate as opposed to telling people what I think they should do). .

Another thing I was reminded at the seminar is that I can speak to friends and post stuff here that can give people the impression that I have this all figured out . . It was also mentioned at the seminar how easy it is to think that everybody elses life is going so well . . In many cases the people who give the impression that they are the happiest, tell all about the great things in their lives and just project confidence can be the people in the most pain. I know I used to be able to "act" around people to disguise my true feelings/pain.

In many cases when I read some of my posts I actually remind myself that I don't always practise what I preach. I have moments when the stuff I write here counts for little but I don't beat myself up. I just think of it like a cold/flu. I don't beat myself up when I am feeling unwell with a cold, I just ride it out and try to rest. I try to do the same thing when my mindset starts going downhill. Only today I felt really down and I went to the gym, gathered my thoughts and felt like a million dollars afterwards. still have work to do now (because I didn't get work done during afternoon), but I know if I had thrown all my efforts into work in that mindset that I would be worn out right now and feeling sh*tty , no matter how much work I got done . . That's what worked for me today, it might not work tomorrow, but I accept that . .

Drumpot

DeVore wrote: »

Its free and you don't have to be a member or even a student to go. Just show up!

Was great meeting you and Dav last night . . Was nearly late for it because I was coming in from Bettystown and amnt used to heavy traffic (didn't think it would be that bad at 6.30). Also had to scoff down taco fries and a burger from Abra . Not the same without a few drinks, prob cause you can taste the food !!


Great seminar, really loved the message that its "ok to not be ok" . . I could identify with bits of all speakers stories... I also thought that there was a great message for people who come to this thread who might think "why don't I ever meet somebody who feels the same as me". The fact is that you might meet people who feel as bad as you everyday, but they give the perception that all is well. I know I learned to hide how I really felt and people thought (still do to a degree) that I was the happiest person ever . . I always thought that the idea that many comedians are manic depressive made complete sense. Give the illusion that you are constantly happy (publically) and have complete downers when you are on your own . .

Peanut Butter Jelly

Hey guys, I know I mightn't hold a candle to many of you guys with the pain you have gone through, I just felt that I need to say it to someone. For the last 4 years, I have suffered from depression. And I feel that is the perfect word for it, "suffered". The village I'm from is full of those people that would publish how many times you went to the jacks on the parish bulletin, with my mother being one of the writers, but not liking to admit it. More Inis Inverted than Ballygobackwards. I don't really feel that I could tell her because of it.

I've always been one of the bigger kids, something I never really cared about until secondary school. Then it was only the one or two people that would have called me a "fat ****" or something like that. I was lucky enough to find a few friends that had the same interests as myself, football, games, pretty much most Irish people when I think about it. Then the holidays came about after first year, and I spent it in my house, on my laptop. I spent the time learning photo editing and a bit of coding, pretty useless stuff but hell, it passed the time. My closest cousin was to be wed in August, and it was what I looked forward to the whole summer, until my granddad died a week, or 166 hours to be precise, beforehand. That right there set me off on the 10:45 train to depression.

Sport in school ground to a halt until 4th year, when rugby started up. I was a prop and one of the starting players on the team, I instantly clicked when it came to taking that oval ball and running with it. I was able then to muster up the courage to talk to them aliens you other people called "girls". I'll be honest, I've had the blinkers on since then on one girl in particular, but I'll get to that later.

Leaving cert year came around and I was in a pretty poor position. And around Christmas, I fell into a deep, deep hole. I smashed open a razor, and was alone in the house. I started the cut and straight away stopped, it felt way too sore to continue, and I dropped the blade, and put a bandage on my arm, and said nothing. A few months later, I relapsed again, around the mocks. This time though, I was past self harm. I was just waiting to get an assurance that nobody would be around for a few hours, and I decided that I would kill myself. I had everything planned out, I had wrote out a letter and put it in an envelope on the kitchen table. I took the rope and went in to the field beside my house. I had the rope tied around the tree, and the hole tied for my neck. I stood on the rocks in the ditch, and placed the rope around my neck, and as I looked into the abyss of the ditch, I thought to myself that I had everything done that I needed to do. But, I just couldn't jump, or even fall off. I was there for about fifteen minutes, and just stood back. I felt even more like a failure. I couldn't even kill myself. I couldn't even fall.

There was a talent show in the school during the middle of March, and while I can't sing or dance, I can do some magic. I had to completely change half my act hours before the first performance at the request of the teachers on "safety grounds" and that meant a sleepless night perfecting it. Because I couldn't care less, I kept the "dangerous" stuff and just put in the new stuff as I thought it would be better. 3 shows later and I'm on a high of pure elation at been able to show what I can do, that no one else in the school could.

All throughout the LC, I just battled on and turned out getting the highest points out of all the lads, which is what I was expecting to accomplish. I was always pretty smart, so it was something to aim at. That got me €500 and the course I wanted in college.

Now to this girl I mentioned, how can I describe it, Me=Johnstones Paint Trophy, She=Champions League. I'm able to talk to her, but I don't have the confidence to say anything to go any further than "what's the craic?". So I suppose you'll think I'm daft to learn off a bit of Japanese to try and impress her.

murria

Hi Peanut Butter Jelly. Well done for posting, hope you feel better for it. Your pain is as painful as anyone else's and you deserve to have your story listened to. You have dealt with a lot by yourself over the last few years and I think you know you need to get some help or else these thoughts are going to eat you up if you don't, they almost have once already. If you keep on pushing down the feelings and never dealing with them they are just going to stay there trapped inside of you until you can't fit any more of them in there.

If you go back to the opening post on this thread there are links to plenty of really helpful resources, or you could just pay a visit to the GP/college doctor. I would strongly encourage you to take the first step, because nothing will change until you do. Put yourself and your health first, you are very important.

Oh and the girl thing... magic and Japanese sound very impressive, but you are impressive enough without the bonus features.

Take Care PBJ

TeddyTedson

I was devastated to find out a lecturer I had took his own life last year.
I actually read about it here on boards first and found out some more information since.
It's unthinkable to think that this man would have done this. He was loved by everyone. A real character and had a way of allowing the students to have a bit of fun too. Everyone loved him. You'd actually enjoy his classes.
Apparently though he had a few personal problems that escalated very quickly and he must have sink into a pit of depression.

It's so strange that so often when you hear about people taking their own lives they appear to be some of the happiest fun loving nice people you could ever meet.

Drumpot

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

Hey guys, I know I mightn't hold a candle to many of you guys with the pain you have gone through, I just felt that I need to say it to someone. .

I cant speak for anybody else's pain, but I know that when I am down I feel awful. I might not be the most sick person in the world and there are others no doubt who deal with some things better then me . . But, when I am feeling awful, lonely or depressed it can feel like the world is a cold horrible place. . One thing I have tried to learn not to do is to undervalue my pain. Your suffering, your perception of your life, is as real and important as anybody who posts on this thread. If you felt the need to say it, then it was important to write it down . .

Leaving cert year came around and I was in a pretty poor position. And around Christmas, I fell into a deep, deep hole. I smashed open a razor, and was alone in the house. I started the cut and straight away stopped, it felt way too sore to continue, and I dropped the blade, and put a bandage on my arm, and said nothing. A few months later, I relapsed again, around the mocks. This time though, I was past self harm. I was just waiting to get an assurance that nobody would be around for a few hours, and I decided that I would kill myself. I had everything planned out, I had wrote out a letter and put it in an envelope on the kitchen table. I took the rope and went in to the field beside my house. I had the rope tied around the tree, and the hole tied for my neck. I stood on the rocks in the ditch, and placed the rope around my neck, and as I looked into the abyss of the ditch, I thought to myself that I had everything done that I needed to do. But, I just couldn't jump, or even fall off. I was there for about fifteen minutes, and just stood back. I felt even more like a failure. I couldn't even kill myself. I couldn't even fall.

There is a phrase that comes up in my therapy - "normalising the abnormal". Its kind of the idea that we can get used to thinking that something that is not rational/healthy makes sense. I have had suicidal thoughts over the years but I never spent time planning what to do. Thought about what might be easiest, but I cant honestly say I ever gave it a go. There was one speaker at the seminar on Tuesday who tried to take his life several times. He discussed how committing suicide made absolute sense to him. How he could see the benefits from everybody's perspective if he took his life. He also acknowledged now, how he just wasn't in the right frame of mind to see the forest from the trees. That he needed help/guidance to move away from this kind of thinking and finding some sort of balance in life.

I said it previously and I heard the comment mentioned at the trinity seminar that giving advice can kill, telling my own story can save lives. I hope you might find the time to read through other peoples stories and continue to feel welcome, by sharing your thoughts/feelings here. People may not have answers for you directly, but you might find them in other peoples posts. Counselling & Therapy works for me, for awhile I needed some G.P prescribed medication to help me find a balance. Sometime I find writing it down here just helps. Sharing how I feel with family/friends is easier to do by thinking it (i.e. imagining I am sharing my pain with them), then saying it.

Marzipan85

I hate parties. Was at one last night. Ugh. (Funny memes below)

TeddyTedson

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I was devastated to find out a lecturer I had took his own life last year.
I actually read about it here on boards first and found out some more information since.
It's unthinkable to think that this man would have done this. He was loved by everyone. A real character and had a way of allowing the students to have a bit of fun too. Everyone loved him. You'd actually enjoy his classes.
Apparently though he had a few personal problems that escalated very quickly and he must have sink into a pit of depression.

It's so strange that so often when you hear about people taking their own lives they appear to be some of the happiest fun loving nice people you could ever meet.

That's because of society, isn't it? Any time I've been openly down, I get told to cheer up and stop moping, to 'think of other people' and that 'everyone gets down', that I should 'learn to fake it like everyone else'. So now I just smile and act happy for the benefit of other people. The worse I feel inside, the happier I am on the outside because I'm trying so hard to cover it up. I know that depression can make people seem very self-absorbed but the pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction now. It's like we're expected to put others before ourselves ALL THE TIME. Feeling suicidal? Well, just plaster a fake smile on so you don't ruin the mood in the office. God forbid you'd be seen to be feeling sorry for yourself.

IMO.

The Big Smoke

Luciano Raspy Checkbook wrote: »

Well, just plaster a fake smile on so you don't ruin the mood in the office. God forbid you'd be seen to be feeling sorry for yourself.

IMO.

I got fired from my last job for this reason. Lol

delthedriver

Luciano Raspy Checkbook wrote: »

That's because of society, isn't it? Any time I've been openly down, I get told to cheer up and stop moping, to 'think of other people' and that 'everyone gets down', that I should 'learn to fake it like everyone else'. So now I just smile and act happy for the benefit of other people. The worse I feel inside, the happier I am on the outside because I'm trying so hard to cover it up. I know that depression can make people seem very self-absorbed but the pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction now. It's like we're expected to put others before ourselves ALL THE TIME. Feeling suicidal? Well, just plaster a fake smile on so you don't ruin the mood in the office. God forbid you'd be seen to be feeling sorry for yourself.

IMO.

The first thing I learned in Counselling is to first ,protect yourself . People who suffer from Depression very often put others first at the expense of their own health, safety and well being.
This is never recognised by third parties, indeed it is often the third party who may be the proximate cause of the Depression.
Yes I concur with the feeling of having to wear the film star smile for fear of offending someone , or worse mention the D. word!
I guess if one was faced with an airplane crash over water , one has the opportunity to put on one's life jacket and signal for help. One cannot be dragged under trying to rescue everyone else. Sure it goes against our feelings, but better to be alive .
Now I no longer worry too much about whether or not I am smiling like a star, I have Depression, I did not cause it. If anyone has a problem about it or with me , well FCUK 'em !:)
I live in The NOW, One Day at a time!

glass_onion

Luciano Raspy Checkbook wrote: »

That's because of society, isn't it? Any time I've been openly down, I get told to cheer up and stop moping, to 'think of other people' and that 'everyone gets down', that I should 'learn to fake it like everyone else'. So now I just smile and act happy for the benefit of other people. The worse I feel inside, the happier I am on the outside because I'm trying so hard to cover it up. I know that depression can make people seem very self-absorbed but the pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction now. It's like we're expected to put others before ourselves ALL THE TIME. Feeling suicidal? Well, just plaster a fake smile on so you don't ruin the mood in the office. God forbid you'd be seen to be feeling sorry for yourself.

IMO.

I look at it from both ways. I think for those who may not have experienced depression wonder why someone can be unhappy,when there is people out there worst off.

But depression itself is a mental illness.One cannot simply "snap out of it". The thinking can be irrational,hope can be lost. Depression can make a person a good actor pretending everything is ok,when sometimes the person is suffering from inside.

The mind can be powerful and weak thing.You could be a "super hero" with "super strength",but yet can have your own doubts and low esteem.

What matters most is your happiness,not someone else happiness. I think with real friends,you can be yourself and not wear a happy mask.

delthedriver

The Big Smoke wrote: »

I got fired from my last job for this reason. Lol

What, fired for having Depression? Surely there are laws against that? What happened?

delthedriver

glass_onion wrote: »

I look at it from both ways. I think for those who may not have experienced depression wonder why someone can be unhappy,when there is people out there worst off.

But depression itself is a mental illness.One cannot simply "snap out of it". The thinking can be irrational,hope can be lost. Depression can make a person a good actor pretending everything is ok,when sometimes the person is suffering from inside.

The mind can be powerful and weak thing.You could be a "super hero" with "super strength",but yet can have your own doubts and low esteem.

What matters most is your happiness,not someone else happiness. I think with real friends,you can be yourself and not wear a happy mask.

Well done ! Very good post Glass Onion:)

The Big Smoke

delthedriver wrote: »

What, fired for having Depression? Surely there are laws against that? What happened?

Well I have mood swings a per the standard depression stuff, but the office was full of fairly bitchy women that kept going to the manager because I was quiet sometimes and seemed like I was "in a bad mood". Thing is I did nothing to warrant it I was always polite and did my job, never said boo to anyone. Just this stupid condition sends out these negative vibes. Didn't help that the assistant manager hated me either. Ah well.

delthedriver

The Big Smoke wrote: »

Well I have mood swings a per the standard depression stuff, but the office was full of fairly bitchy women that kept going to the manager because I was quiet sometimes and seemed like I was "in a bad mood". Thing is I did nothing to warrant it I was always polite and did my job, never said boo to anyone. Just this stupid condition sends out these negative vibes. Didn't help that the assistant manager hated me either. Ah well.

So essentially you were unfairly dismissed. Consult an Employment Law Specialist. Your Employers cannot fire you for doing your job.:)

The Big Smoke

delthedriver wrote: »

So essentially you were unfairly dismissed. Consult an Employment Law Specialist. Your Employers cannot fire you for doing your job.:)

They used the auld probation clause in my contract though...

delthedriver

The Big Smoke wrote: »

They used the auld probation clause in my contract though...

Perhaps so, but I'm not certain that is good enough? After all you were doing your job, achieving what was expected of you.

If you are in a good job now perhaps you may not wish to go back over old ground. Sounds to me like they lost a good employee. They could have made a better decision in getting rid of some of the back stabbing bitches who obviously had not enough work to keep them busy!!:)

The Big Smoke

delthedriver wrote: »

Perhaps so, but I'm not certain that is good enough? After all you were doing your job, achieving what was expected of you.

If you are in a good job now perhaps you may not wish to go back over old ground. Sounds to me like they lost a good employee. They could have made a better decision in getting rid of some of the back stabbing bitches who obviously had not enough work to keep them busy!!:)

It was like that, I'd also prefer as little hassle as possible. I secured a new job anyway that's much better so every cloud and all that.

delthedriver

The Big Smoke wrote: »

It was like that, I'd also prefer as little hassle as possible. I secured a new job anyway that's much better so every cloud and all that.

Good on you! Hope all is well with you now

Best Wishes

The Big Smoke

The Big Smoke wrote: »

Well I have mood swings a per the standard depression stuff, but the office was full of fairly bitchy women that kept going to the manager because I was quiet sometimes and seemed like I was "in a bad mood". Thing is I did nothing to warrant it I was always polite and did my job, never said boo to anyone. Just this stupid condition sends out these negative vibes. Didn't help that the assistant manager hated me either. Ah well.

Yep, same here. Got disciplined for 'looking uncomfortable' and 'seeming like I was in a bad mood'. Was always polite, never rude, just not the bubbly extrovert they apparently wanted.

The Big Smoke

Luciano Raspy Checkbook wrote: »

Yep, same here. Got disciplined for 'looking uncomfortable' and 'seeming like I was in a bad mood'. Was always polite, never rude, just not the bubbly extrovert they apparently wanted.

Thing is I've been somewhat successful in my previous roles, I'm able to deal with clients on a professional level and excel at selling a product. It's just with fellow employees I don't feel like conversing with. You don't get rewarded for hard work in a lot of jobs unless you're good mates and lick the mangers arse it seems.