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LETS ALL LAUGH AT PEOPLE WITH DEPRESSION!!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    haven't been doing very well for the past week or so....anxiety making a big comeback :(

    just had a small panic attack about what would happen when this thread hits 10.000 (or whatever the number is they change them) which is crazy :(

    this thing sucks, I've had enough of it already :mad:

    better go bed and try to get some sleep.

    Hope you all have a lovely bank holiday monday free of bad thoughts, anxiety, worry, feeling down and other rubbish.

    Lets hope for sunshine


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭is mise spartacus


    Anyone on SSRI's experience very unusual, vivid dreams?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    Anyone on SSRI's experience very unusual, vivid dreams?

    Yes, very much so. Usually around the time I increase or decrease my dose. Very very vivid, unusual dreams.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭is mise spartacus


    whirlpool wrote: »
    Yes, very much so. Usually around the time I increase or decrease my dose. Very very vivid, unusual dreams.

    I'm hoping the dreams don't get any worse when I increase in a few weeks... :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    I'm hoping the dreams don't get any worse when I increase in a few weeks... :(

    Crazy dreams every night. Can be quite good though as they are so detailed.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    lukesmom wrote: »
    Crazy dreams every night. Can be quite good though as they are do detailed.

    same with me. Never had nightmares as a kid. Then start having weird existential nightmares that i wake up from


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    Well I woke up with no zaps, for the first half hour. Then I just got a few, infrequent and mild. And then I got out of bed. Lots of them and harsh before I had even sit up properly. More sleep paralysis but not as bad.

    Probably going to put a capsule together with half the beads. Didn't want to have to do this, but if I'm to go to work this week I'll have to. Might still have to take tomorrow off. Not happy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    Are these zaps things you feel in the front of your head. When i was suffering severe anxiety, i could feeling cyclic fluid pounding in my head (front part) as if chemicals were being injected from one part to another...........awful pain, just awful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    No actually it's mostly the back of my head. Not painful at all just disturbing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    No actually it's mostly the back of my head. Not painful at all just disturbing

    hi, I think you should go back to ur gp and start tappering down program.

    Those brain zaps R bloody awful, they can be quite frightening,Happened me when I changed meds few years ago. My gp gave short course of valium to take the edge of them.

    Good news is they don't last well with me bout 2/3 weeks.

    This is just based on my experience.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    No point going back to the doctor as she can't prescribe any lower a dose. 2 or 3 weeks of this would be ridiculous. All I can do is lie down and not move too much. I've split a capsule and taken a half just now. I need to be able to go to work this week.

    Anybody able to tell me what tablets you can buy that come in gel capsules? Need to split all the rest for the next few weeks. Calibos you were saying that you did this too?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,807 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Bought some Tramil paracetamol capsules in Tescos. Twist and pull the two halves apart and empty out paracetamol powder.

    With the Cymbalta I made sure the cymbalta balls are in the large half of the cymbalta capsule before twisting off the short half of the capsule lest the balls spill out everywhere. Then I'd divide the contents into two tramil capsules to make my 15mg or 4 capsules to make my 7.5's. I was able to eyeball it by holding the tramil capsules up to a light. If it looked like more in one capsule then the other I'd just pour a few balls from one into the other to even them up etc. I'd make up a weeks worth at a time. EG. spend 15 or 20 minutes making up the capsules on Sunday evening for the rest of the week.

    Once I got to the end of my 7.5mg capsules that method of titration would have gotten increasingly difficult and I probably would have had to start counting the balls instead of eyeballing. I was out of my prescribed 30mg and 'Found' 60mg at that point anyway though. I'm sure my GP would have given me another prescription for more 30mg had I needed to titrate further to 3mg and below but I decided to bite the withdrawl bullet at 7.5mg.

    Whereas the drop from 60-30, 30-15 & 15-7.5mg gave me increased strength and regularity of zaps for a day or so after a change in dose, they'd largely disappear until the next dosage drop came along. At no point was I incapable of working. However when I went from 7.5mg to zero the zaps got stronger and more regular, peaking about a week after total cessation. At that point they were borderline intolerable for work but I managed. Then over the course of the following week to 10 days they subsided in strength and regularity and were pretty much gone by day 10 after the peak (2.5 weeks after cessation date)

    I read that its basically acetycholine neurotransmitter withdrawl. The brain stops producing enough of it as the Cymbalta takes its place at the neuroreceptors. When you are no longer taking the Cymbalta the brain has to learn to start producing it in quantity again. I read that Taurine and Vitamin B are metabolised by the brain to make Acetycholine and that supplementing this can speed up the process. Funnily enough, RedBull has heaps of both.

    If the withdrawl gets to much to bare you can ask your GP to ease the withdrawl by switching you to Prozac with its longer half-life and then withdrawing from the Prozac which is much easier by all accounts (Have never been on Prozac myself though)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    Thanks for that.
    Forgot about tramil. Will pick up something. I've done it by looking at the two groups of the balls. Rough estimate really. Not sure if this is a good idea but we'll see.

    Good you didn't have to take off work but I definitely couldn't work like this. It goes into overdrive when I sit up.

    Will keep in mind about the red bull. Pity caffeine effects me to much, I'll probably be awake for days but if it helps I'll do it.

    Was on projects at one point, can't remember anything of it. This is the first time I've come off these (technically second attempt). Never will I try or recommend these to anybody. If the tapering isn't working I'll go to the doctor about it. Though my own gp is on two weeks holiday now, great timing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    Sweet sweet relief came nearly 4 hours after taking it


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    Sweet sweet relief. Came nearly 4 hours after taking it

    Taking what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    lukesmom wrote: »
    Taking what?

    Sorry, I said earlier that I split a capsule to take. I split them into two. Just had to go back on them. Still a little zippy, but it's like having sniffles after a full blown flu. I'll continue on the tapering for a few weeks then half them again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    Anyone else always find August a more difficult month?


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,356 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    im taking risperidone but dont understand what it does for me

    It made me put on weight and on the nights i dont take it i dont sleep at all


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,807 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Despite having an Edgy episode all day Monday and Tuesday that I had to take a couple of anxticalm for, I got up today with it abated for the most part. Just got word back on something thats making me feel a hell of a lot better about myself today though.

    On Sunday an acquaintance was in our shop looking to buy cigarettes. Haven't socialised together for over a decade though. He couldn't get his brand out of his mouth and looked confused. I asked him was he on medication, was he 'on' anything else (we used to partake of various substances 'back in the day'). He answered no, but he looked confused enough that I wasn't sure he was even answering the questions I asked. Couldn't smell any drink. I then noticed his neck muscles on one side were taut but not the other and he seemed to be talking out of one side of his mouth. He was able to tell me he wasn't feeling well. I asked him did he want me to call someone or call an ambulance and told him it looked like he was having a stroke. Not sure if he was even taking in what I was saying. I was on my own and other customers filled the shop impatiently waiting to be served. He backed off to wait till I served them over to the news-stand and looked like he was reading the headlines while he waited. I tried to keep an eye on him while trying to serve the other customers as quickly as I could.

    Next thing I know he was gone. When I got out from behind the counter and got to the door he was nowhere to be seen. I called someone out to relieve me and ran down to another local business owner who I knew also used to socialise with him more recently than me and might at least have current contact details for yer mans friends or family. I explained my stroke concerns about the guy and he said he'd phone yer mans mates to try and track him down/check up on him.

    Got word back today from the fellow local business owner that he had contacted a friend of yer man who immediately called to his house where yer man had obviously managed to return to after leaving my shop. The friend got him straight to hospital, he was admitted and it turns out he was indeed suffering from a stroke.

    With strokes, time is of the essence to minimise brain damage/injury. Its so lucky he came to the shop to get smokes and that I knew this guy well enough that I didn't just assume he was drunk and was able to spot some signs of stroke.

    So from feeling a little bit down again from the anxiety episode on Monday and Tuesday, "I've done so little, I'm good for nothing" etc etc I'm now feeling pretty good about myself again. I may have helped save someones life or at least saved some/all of their faculties.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    Calibos wrote: »
    Despite having an Edgy episode all day Monday and Tuesday that I had to take a couple of anxticalm for, I got up today with it abated for the most part. Just got word back on something thats making me feel a hell of a lot better about myself today though.

    On Sunday an acquaintance was in our shop looking to buy cigarettes. Haven't socialised together for over a decade though. He couldn't get his brand out of his mouth and looked confused. I asked him was he on medication, was he 'on' anything else (we used to partake of various substances 'back in the day'). He answered no, but he looked confused enough that I wasn't sure he was even answering the questions I asked. Couldn't smell any drink. I then noticed his neck muscles on one side were taut but not the other and he seemed to be talking out of one side of his mouth. He was able to tell me he wasn't feeling well. I asked him did he want me to call someone or call an ambulance and told him it looked like he was having a stroke. Not sure if he was even taking in what I was saying. I was on my own and other customers filled the shop impatiently waiting to be served. He backed off to wait till I served them over to the news-stand and looked like he was reading the headlines while he waited. I tried to keep an eye on him while trying to serve the other customers as quickly as I could.

    Next thing I know he was gone. When I got out from behind the counter and got to the door he was nowhere to be seen. I called someone out to relieve me and ran down to another local business owner who I knew also used to socialise with him more recently than me and might at least have current contact details for yer mans friends or family. I explained my stroke concerns about the guy and he said he'd phone yer mans mates to try and track him down/check up on him.

    Got word back today from the fellow local business owner that he had contacted a friend of yer man who immediately called to his house where yer man had obviously managed to return to after leaving my shop. The friend got him straight to hospital, he was admitted and it turns out he was indeed suffering from a stroke.

    With strokes, time is of the essence to minimise brain damage/injury. Its so lucky he came to the shop to get smokes and that I knew this guy well enough that I didn't just assume he was drunk and was able to spot some signs of stroke.

    So from feeling a little bit down again from the anxiety episode on Monday and Tuesday, "I've done so little, I'm good for nothing" etc etc I'm now feeling pretty good about myself again. I may have helped save someones life or at least saved some/all of their faculties.


    Oddly uplifting story! :)

    Well done, by the way!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    People on here tell me to go to talktome.org but they have never let me post.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    The registration process looks pretty straight forward. Just make sure you're entering a valid e-mail address and checking your in-box for the confirmation message.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,175 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Dodd wrote: »
    People on here tell me to go to talktome.org but they have never let me post.

    Also, they only allow posting between 16.00 and 23.00 i think, it's not the most user friendly sometimes.

    Also i think they have a verified representative on here i think, so contacting a mod in long term illness or personal issues might help..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    Anyone have night terrors withdrawing from anti depressants? I'm 5 weeks off Effexor now and would have the odd nights where I just keep waking up because of horrible visions. Brain zaps are gone and the rages less frequent. Hoping metabolism goes back to normal soon, anyone have an idea when that might happen? Cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Good morning good and gentle depressed folk of Boards.

    I'd really like to ask you for your experiences with Lyrica, I just took my first one in the morning (took 1 the last few evenings) and ehm....I feel about as anxious as if I'd taken another, less legal, substance
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma8cleJw2j1r015l2o2_500.gif

    So I guess you could say it's certainly working, however I don't really feel like I'd be safe to operate any machinery (like cars)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    wexie wrote: »
    Good morning good and gentle depressed folk of Boards.

    I'd really like to ask you for your experiences with Lyrica, I just took my first one in the morning (took 1 the last few evenings) and ehm....I feel about as anxious as if I'd taken another, less legal, substance
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma8cleJw2j1r015l2o2_500.gif

    So I guess you could say it's certainly working, however I don't really feel like I'd be safe to operate any machinery (like cars)


    Hi please remember that they effect people differently. They didn't help my anxiety at all but I know others for which they have worked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    lukesmom wrote: »
    Hi please remember that they effect people differently. They didn't help my anxiety at all but I know others for which they have worked.

    They're certainly helping with the anxiety (weee!!! :D ) but considering how they're making me feel they're not really a long term solution. I was just wondering if I'll build up a tolerance for them that will still help with the anxiety but allow me to function somewhat normally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    wexie wrote: »
    They're certainly helping with the anxiety (weee!!! :D ) but considering how they're making me feel they're not really a long term solution. I was just wondering if I'll build up a tolerance for them that will still help with the anxiety but allow me to function somewhat normally.


    Do you want to build up a tolerance for them? Surely, the more you have to build up a tolerance to something, the worse the side effects will be when you try to come off them. I could be wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    whirlpool wrote: »
    Do you want to build up a tolerance for them? Surely, the more you have to build up a tolerance to something, the worse the side effects will be when you try to come off them. I could be wrong.

    not so much that I want to build a tolerance for them but more that I'd like to be able to go about my day not feeling like I've just smoked a five skinner :o


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    wexie wrote: »
    not so much that I want to build a tolerance for them but more that I'd like to be able to go about my day not feeling like I've just smoked a five skinner :o

    That will wear off, I felt like that the first few days. Spacey and kind of numb.


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