LETS ALL LAUGH AT PEOPLE WITH DEPRESSION!!

DeVore

DunnoKiddo wrote: »

so, if depression is an ongoing numbness, then what is ongoing sadness called?

........guess depression was never my problem then. I am just.... sad... rather constantly. Some days are worse, rarely ever better - but occasionally I can feel momentary yet fleeting joy. And frankly, life and people are quite exhausting anymore................. sounds pitiful I know.

I dunno... I'm not sure any of us would be qualified to diagnose you either tbh
It might be a good idea to go talk to someone... For the sake of a couple of chats you might find a path to having a happier life. Can't hurt, right?

Hugo Stiglitz

I'm thinking of just giving up on people. I just can't seem to be able to handle anyone without annoying them, angering them or upsetting them. Too many years of isolation have left me unable to relate to people at all. Might just go back under the rock again.

grey_so_what

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

I'm thinking of just giving up on people. I just can't seem to be able to handle anyone without annoying them, angering them or upsetting them. Too many years of isolation have left me unable to relate to people at all. Might just go back under the rock again.

Don't Hugo, I'm always here to have a chat with!! xxx gsw

Mam of 4

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

I'm thinking of just giving up on people. I just can't seem to be able to handle anyone without annoying them, angering them or upsetting them. Too many years of isolation have left me unable to relate to people at all. Might just go back under the rock again.

You might not think you can relate to people , but can I just say that the amount of posters , and readers , that can relate to All of your posts and you being there for others , in this thread and the other one , would say otherwise .

Please don't go back under the rock, stay posting .

Hugo Stiglitz

grey_so_what wrote: »

Don't Hugo, I'm always here to have a chat with!! xxx gsw

Mam of 4 wrote: »

You might not think you can relate to people , but can I just say that the amount of posters , and readers , that can relate to All of your posts and you being there for others , in this thread and the other one , would say otherwise .

Please don't go back under the rock, stay posting .

Thanks for the kind replies.

I really just meant out in the real world mainly. Like people in work etc. I'm not even trying to impress people or win them over or anything like that. Just the normal stuff.

grey_so_what

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

Thanks for the kind replies.

I really just meant out in the real world mainly. Like people in work etc. I'm not even trying to impress people or win them over or anything like that. Just the normal stuff.

Ah Hugo, the real world is horrible, we just have to be able for it...pm sent hugs gswxxxxx


Time is no prob, just if you'd like a chat, I think you're not alone as much as you think!

DunnoKiddo

DeVore wrote: »

I dunno... I'm not sure any of us would be qualified to diagnose you either tbh
It might be a good idea to go talk to someone... For the sake of a couple of chats you might find a path to having a happier life. Can't hurt, right?

Sorry DeVore, didn't mean to make it sound as if I was asking for a diagnosis, was just rambling is all.

Hugo Stiglitz

DunnoKiddo wrote: »

Sorry DeVore, didn't mean to make it sound as if I was asking for a diagnosis, was just rambling is all.

Ramble away, pet.

Hugo Stiglitz

DunnoKiddo wrote: »

Another's anger or annoyance doesn't usually stem from other people, it directly comes from the general vicinity of their own irritabilities and shortcomings... I wish (and I know how hard that can be) you didn't feel as if you were the cause of other people's bad behavior... There was a sign on a door I saw once that read "your attitude has more to do with you and your problems than it has to do with me and mine."

You said "too many year's of isolation have left me unable to relate to people." First off, you relate fine to me online, even when I am being unreasonable (and that is much too often these days!) That, in itself, is a major feat for ANYONE to keep their cool as well as you do - well done on the relating effort there!

Wouldn't it be nice if we (cos I am in the same boat) could relate better to people? and handle life differently? There's only one way I know to do it ...and hiding (even tho it's my preference) isn't the best way get it done. Hugs, hide under the rock when you must, but come out often and greet the new day when you can.

and My Dearest Hugo, I am sorry to have added to your grief in the past. Hope only the best for you!

Thanks for the wise and kind words there, DK. I greatly appreciate them.

Also, you've never added to my grief. That's just silly talk!

whats newxt

For me my problem is society and how rubbish it is in general everyones just self obsessed these days "so long as me and my family are safe, feck the rest" sort of thing why oh why can't we just build a utopia already it's not like we don't have the technology or the means, i reckon this dysfunctional society is to blame for people opting out.

Call Me Jimmy

I agree that mental illness is largely a symptom of society, like a flare up on you're skin, it's not that piece of skins fault, something has gone wrong underneath and the damaged skin is simply the expression of it.

I think computers play a large part in it. Sure most people live relatively healthy lives, but I think overall people are getting less and less biological needs met and it's only going to continue.

whats newxt

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Hugo Stiglitz

DunnoKiddo wrote: »

I'm sorry it sounded like a lecture ...wasnt my intent.
You are kind.

No, it didn't sound like a lecture. And even if it did, coming for you, I wouldn't complain at all!

Grid.

Well explained K;),yep.. the net has given us access to a treasure trove of information and contacts like never before, it has helped me immensely too over the years. I think its important to strike a balance between time online and daily social interaction aswell...for a healthy mind.

Pecker31

Hi all, I am new to this thread and hope its ok me posting in here ~ I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks and probably in my heart of hearts know I have slight depression.

I am seeing someone and have spaced the appointments further apart as I need her less and less which is good ~ I am not hugely into medication but my question is what do other readers do, I know walking to great, healthy eating etc

Are there any good natural tablets I could try like Magnesium and Zinc or something ?

Thanks X

Pecker31

Hi all, I am new to this thread and hope its ok me posting in here ~ I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks and probably in my heart of hearts know I have slight depression.

I am seeing someone and have spaced the appointments further apart as I need her less and less which is good ~ I am not hugely into medication but my question is what do other readers do, I know walking to great, healthy eating etc

Are there any good natural tablets I could try like Magnesium and Zinc or something ?

Thanks X

TheSegal

Pecker31 wrote: »

Hi all, I am new to this thread and hope its ok me posting in here ~ I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks and probably in my heart of hearts know I have slight depression.

I am seeing someone and have spaced the appointments further apart as I need her less and less which is good ~ I am not hugely into medication but my question is what do other readers do, I know walking to great, healthy eating etc

Are there any good natural tablets I could try like Magnesium and Zinc or something ?

Thanks X

The best cure I have found for my anxiety is a mix of exercise (running and cycling outdoors consistently) and ensuring I mix with friends regularly, during the worst parts of my depression I use to completely shut myself away and neglect everyone. Mixing with friends and new people can be difficult but it really helped me get over a lot of my anxiety. Diet is a really important part, my diet is very basic but it works, I try to cut out processed foods and just eat things like eggs, nuts, meat, fish, fruit and veg. Hangovers are the only time i'll eat crap due to laziness!

I also try to limit the amount of time I spend sitting in front of a tv/laptop. I used to spend hours a week watching tv shows and losing sleep trying to cram in another episode. Now I might watch an episode or two of something on a Thursday evening and that's about it for the week!

So to sum it up, get your exercise in whenever you can (If it's pissing rain and there is somewhere safe for you to run go for it! I've had some of my best running times in the rain since it's harder to overheat!) and start trying to socialise with people. All of the endorphins from the exercise will slowly start to build up your confidence and should help you deal with your anxiety and depression

DeVore

Novelty is good for depression I find. Something new, something you can get stuck into and take your mind off of the routine.

Sleep is also a key factor and for me booze seems to be a negative, particularly on consecutive nights but I think that might be because of bad sleep too.

I haven't heard of things like Zinc or Magnesium being beneficial... I haven't heard anything AGAINST them either but personally I would try something like Multibionta (a multi vitamin with minerals) which should cover all the bases.

DeVore

This is a pretty cool animated interactive thing about anxiety and neurons.. its pretty basic if you have any understanding of neural activity , but its kinda cool!

http://ncase.me/neurons/

mickstupp

DeVore wrote: »

Novelty is good for depression I find. Something new, something you can get stuck into and take your mind off of the routine.

Last weekend I saw Easons were selling some of those old Airfix models for 13 quid. Bought one and painted the fiddly inside bits yesterday. Very relaxing 4 hours. Enjoyed every second. Looking forward to start gluing my fingers together and breaking things accidentally with my clumsy fingers.

steamengine

mickstupp wrote: »

Last weekend I saw Easons were selling some of those old Airfix models for 13 quid. Bought one and painted the fiddly inside bits yesterday. Very relaxing 4 hours. Enjoyed every second. Looking forward to start gluing my fingers together and breaking things accidentally with my clumsy fingers.

That's it - finding what makes 'you' tick - brilliant. I wander down to a nearby railway station, video an express train storming past, I feel this spiritual lift. I think it's there for everybody in different forms of course. It needs to be located and brought out.

Pecker31

Hi guys. Made a big step and signed up for yoga classes tomorrow. Really nervous - hope there not all looking at me as the newby

TheSegal

Pecker31 wrote: »

Hi guys. Made a big step and signed up for yoga classes tomorrow. Really nervous - hope there not all looking at me as the newby

I found yoga fantastic, well done on signing up for it! I could barely tie my shoe laces without falling over and no one took any notice of me so no need to worry about people looking at you!

Pecker31

TheSegal wrote: »

I found yoga fantastic, well done on signing up for it! I could barely tie my shoe laces without falling over and no one took any notice of me so no need to worry about people looking at you!

Thanks will let you know how I get on!

Pecker31

On a separate note what are people's opinion of St Johns Wort?

Hugo Stiglitz

Pecker31 wrote: »

On a separate note what are people's opinion of St Johns Wort?

I heard years ago that it is good but I thought that it's not available over the counter anymore.

Turtle_

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

I heard years ago that it is good but I thought that it's not available over the counter anymore.

Hasn't been for years. I tried getting it about ten years ago and it was prescription only.

Hugo Stiglitz

Turtle_ wrote: »

Hasn't been for years. I tried getting it about ten years ago and it was prescription only.

Harsh!

QuantumP

Pecker31 wrote: »

Thanks will let you know how I get on!

Well, how did it go?

SecretPoster

I had no intention of posting anything until I read through the thread and realised there are so many people in the same boat.
I don't even know where to start on this to be honest. I don't know what response I expect but I suppose I should actually be honest about this for the first time.
The fact I am writing this shows me that I am on the up after a fairly dark few months.

I suppose I started feeling down about 3 years ago. Now when I say feeling 'down', sometimes it is feeling down or upset or uninterested or sometimes even feeling nothing at all. There was quite a few events in a very short space of time, I came out of a 5 year relationship very suddenly which really caught me off-guard. Just as I was getting around this my 50yr old father was diagnosed with a very aggressive cancer, he died 2 months later. On top of this, 2 of my remaining grand parents also passed.
This was all in the space of 2 years.

Even though I was surrounded by people, I felt completely isolated and lonely. I felt that I was an inconvenience to everyone. My self-confidence was at an all time low, and I was seeing myself as a person change into something I didn't like.

Now, on the surface, I have a great life. I have a very good job, a lovely house, two cars, and a great family.
But, as most of us seem to know, don't judge a book by its cover.

I go home from work every evening, shower, eat and bed. At the weekends its much the same, I avoid going out unless I absolutely have to and I spend the day counting down the minutes before I can go back to my room. There are plenty of weekend days I have faked illness so I had an excuse to stay in bed all day.
As a result of avoiding social interaction, I have lost a lot of friends.
I never truly understood the meaning of lonely until I literally had not one person outside of family that I could ring for a chat. Any event was just a reminder of this. Christmas has become a dreaded time of the year, too much time off, meant to be spent with family and friends. Not me!!


Recently, I made contact with two of my oldest friends. It took me 3 months to build up the courage to hit the send button on a simple 'how have you been' text message. I felt like a 14 year old again, texting a girl for the first time, wondering whether I would get a response. Almost immediately I got a response. Since the initial contact, I have been out every weekend. I have hysterically laughed for the first time in years, have thoroughly enjoy time out with them and have started dating again.
I haven't gone into any detail with my friends about the last few years, but I will when the time is right. I think I needed to see that they still wanted to know me before scaring them off with my problems!

I do think this is what has helped me see a bit of light through the trees. I'm planning things with friends for the first time in a few years, and genuinely looking forward to it.


Just typing this has given me a positive outlook on the future.

Don't try and take it all on your own, nobody can!