LETS ALL LAUGH AT PEOPLE WITH DEPRESSION!!

Hugo Stiglitz

Best of luck in your exam, Mick!

laugh

Trying to get a mortgage at the moment, the level of detail they want on my mental health is sickening.

Ken.

laugh wrote: »

Trying to get a mortgage at the moment, the level of detail they want on my mental health is sickening.

Forgive my ignorance and tell me to mind my own business but what has that got to do with it?. I remember filling out a mortgage application a few years ago and there was nothing like that on the form.

bridgettedon

Can they refuse you for a mortgage due to health reasons?

That would sicken me too. Best of luck with it.

laugh

ken wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance and tell me to mind my own business but what has that got to do with it?. I remember filling out a mortgage application a few years ago and there was nothing like that on the form.

You need life insurance to get a mortgage. I stated that I was on medication for anxiety and they sent out another longer form looking for all details.

Ken.

laugh wrote: »

You need life insurance to get a mortgage. I stated that I was on medication for anxiety and they sent out another longer form looking for all details.

Ouch, My stepmother has M.S. and if she mentions it when getting something renewed the guy/girl checks the printer to see there's enough ink for all the extra forms.

DeVore

Gleeso_Finglas wrote: »

Devore that sucks horse balls man 2016 isn't pleasant so far.... But that's just temporary surely it can only pick up for you??

Its totally temporary and its just *stuff*... heating is back, computer is stable again now, just need to fix the saw and the laptop. If that's all I have to worry about in 2016, I'll be a very lucky man

strelok

had a lightbox (lumie arabica) delivered today. been using it for the past hour, obviously far far too early to tell if it will have any mental health benefits but I can already tell it's going to be a blessing in the mornings.

the light is so bright, even if it doesn't actually do anything for my depression, it's just really really soothing to have on. It really is like being outside in the sun. I'm loving it now at 4pm on a moderately bright day. 6am tomorrow morning it's going to be a lifesaver.

Time will tell. It might not have any actual benefits, long term or otherwise. It's still a pretty great lamp though so even if all the rest turns out to be a wash, I'll have that.

I love lamp.

mickstupp

^I am interested to here more about this.

strelok

mickstupp wrote: »

^I am interested to here more about this.

i'll update in a few days so.

The One Doctor

Fairly play to everyone here for opening up, it gives some much-needed perspective. I'm finding that talking about my problems makes me feel worse.

Does anyone ever feel that they're faking depression? I do sometimes, I've no idea why. I tend to get a lot more teary over tiny things lately, like holding my 13 month old daughter when she's asleep, or hearing a specific song, or just typing this, odd enough.

Am now nearly 2 weeks on antidepressants (Pacifa) and am unsure if I feel any different. Admittedly the drug leaflet and my research says that it takes about 2 weeks for the drug levels to build up to a therapeutic level, so a few more days might make all the difference.

I suppose a lot of this is driven by the fact that I'm about to lose my job after 11 months due to making too many errors. Frankly I lost interest in the job 6 months ago and things have gotten way worse since we moved in to my in-laws to save for a mortgage. My in-laws have strong views about working all the hours god sent, but I don't. Of course a job is important for money, but I've never seen it a way to validate my existence as some people seem to do.

Gleeso_Finglas

Severe anxiety is all I can describe myself as now. I started mindfulness based cbt and I will have my forth session tomorrow and I still feel lost. At the start I was excited and the valium started to kick inthings were looking up then. I had a bad day on Saturday and my anxiety is unbearable. My insides are burning... Shaking...fearful....tingling it's fcuking with my head too.

My wife is pissed off now because everything I talk about upping my valium she says no and I must start trying to beat this without upping my meds. I know she's right but I'm dying inside and getting worse by the day.

strelok

strelok wrote: »

had a lightbox (lumie arabica) delivered today. been using it for the past hour, obviously far far too early to tell if it will have any mental health benefits but I can already tell it's going to be a blessing in the mornings.

the light is so bright, even if it doesn't actually do anything for my depression, it's just really really soothing to have on. It really is like being outside in the sun. I'm loving it now at 4pm on a moderately bright day. 6am tomorrow morning it's going to be a lifesaver.

Time will tell. It might not have any actual benefits, long term or otherwise. It's still a pretty great lamp though so even if all the rest turns out to be a wash, I'll have that.

I love lamp.

been nearly 2 weeks now since i posted, so figured i'd post a small update.
whether its placebo or not I don't know but I can definitely notice a difference since I got the lightbox. I generally feel better, my anxiety is much improved as well as my mood. I'm a lot more talkative and expressive, I wouldn't even have reached for those as 'symptoms' of anything but apparently I'm not just a natural born grumpasaurus.

I've way more confidence in social situations too, been a few times over the last week I've just shouted out a question to a lecturer in the middle of a crowded lecture room where I'd never really have been willing to do that before and whenever I did I'd feel like the world was staring at the back of my neck as I spoke.

It is absolutely fantastic to have first thing in the morning, I genuinely look forward to waking up so I can sit in front of it with a coffee. I said it was soothing in the post I've quoted above and that still applies. I had a few stressful days/moments since I got it and when I get home and sit in front of it it's like everything just melts away

I'm really really trying to be sceptical about the whole thing but I'm rapidly being converted into a true believer.

sheesh

strelok wrote: »

been nearly 2 weeks now since i posted, so figured i'd post a small update.
whether its placebo or not I don't know but I can definitely notice a difference since I got the lightbox. I generally feel better, my anxiety is much improved as well as my mood. I'm a lot more talkative and expressive, I wouldn't even have reached for those as 'symptoms' of anything but apparently I'm not just a natural born grumpasaurus.

thats Brilliant I was thinking about getting one myself what make didi you get?

strelok

sheesh wrote: »

thats Brilliant I was thinking about getting one myself what make didi you get?

lumie arabica

i hummed and hawwed for ages over which one to get, lumie seem like a pretty good brand for them but even then they have 5 or 6 different ones. ended up just going for a largeish one that didn't look like it'd be too big for the desk.

it's not too big, but it's just me and my computer in this room. in any sort of shared environment I could see it being pretty irritating for anybody who isn't on board with the brightness.

steamengine

strelok wrote: »

been nearly 2 weeks now since i posted, so figured i'd post a small update.
whether its placebo or not I don't know but I can definitely notice a difference since I got the lightbox. I generally feel better, my anxiety is much improved as well as my mood. I'm a lot more talkative and expressive, I wouldn't even have reached for those as 'symptoms' of anything but apparently I'm not just a natural born grumpasaurus.

I've way more confidence in social situations too, been a few times over the last week I've just shouted out a question to a lecturer in the middle of a crowded lecture room where I'd never really have been willing to do that before and whenever I did I'd feel like the world was staring at the back of my neck as I spoke.

It is absolutely fantastic to have first thing in the morning, I genuinely look forward to waking up so I can sit in front of it with a coffee. I said it was soothing in the post I've quoted above and that still applies. I had a few stressful days/moments since I got it and when I get home and sit in front of it it's like everything just melts away

I'm really really trying to be sceptical about the whole thing but I'm rapidly being converted into a true believer.

There is a reason why they are effective - they work on the same frequency as sunlight which releases serotonin causing the feelgood factor. Personally I think it's not due to a placebo effect, it's restoring the brain's chemical balance. That's kinda simplifying the process a bit but my main point is that there are definite scientific reasons why light boxes are effective in remedying depression in some cases as least.

Personally, I don't use one as I cope with anxiety and depression through mainly outdoor exercise in natural daylight - however I often get more of a feelgood factor on sunny days.

Best wishes and thanks for posting about it

mickstupp

Totally interested now. Will investigate when bills are paid

Unknown Soldier

I'll just leave this here.

Well worth watching until the end...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yq6W7YAHM4

The One Doctor

Doing well on the St John's Wort (prescription Pacifa) now, zero side effects. Great stuff.

Graces7

steamengine wrote: »

There is a reason why they are effective - they work on the same frequency as sunlight which releases serotonin causing the feelgood factor. Personally I think it's not due to a placebo effect, it's restoring the brain's chemical balance. That's kinda simplifying the process a bit but my main point is that there are definite scientific reasons why light boxes are effective in remedying depression in some cases as least.

Personally, I don't use one as I cope with anxiety and depression through mainly outdoor exercise in natural daylight - however I often get more of a feelgood factor on sunny days.

Best wishes and thanks for posting about it

Great assessment. I have M.E and we go down fast as early as August because of the reduced daylight and sun quality.. LUX they call is. I bought a light box but am so light sensitive could nos use it but many get huge benefits. By no means a placebo; a real physical cure for SAD ..totally scientific and respected... waiting here for spring! By December I am running on fumes every year. Well done and glad you have found this simple " miracle"; there are some excellent web sites on these devices. Mine was from a firm in the Uk called " Outside In".. gave it to someone who could benefit.

steamengine

Graces7 wrote: »

Great assessment. I have M.E and we go down fast as early as August because of the reduced daylight and sun quality.. LUX they call is. I bought a light box but am so light sensitive could nos use it but many get huge benefits. By no means a placebo; a real physical cure for SAD ..totally scientific and respected... waiting here for spring! By December I am running on fumes every year. Well done and glad you have found this simple " miracle"; there are some excellent web sites on these devices. Mine was from a firm in the Uk called " Outside In".. gave it to someone who could benefit.

What I do now, off my own bat so to speak, is make the effort to absorb actual sunlight for about half an hour on those days the sun is out. I don't wear sunglasses and I look directly at the general area surrounding the sun. Obviously looking at the sun directly will damage your eyesight. Following on from two rare occasions during the last week when the sun was out, my mood has improved and appears to be staying that way. It's not a sudden switch to euphoria by any means, just that hours later my mind and thoughts appear to be more positive than negative following the exposure, as in what I might describe as normality.

Best wishes and thanks for posting.

failinis

Every time a health issue flags up I feel depression knocking on my door.
I can just about keep up with my degree, but once I come back from classes I lay in bed and try and sleep or am doped up with painkillers which don't even work.
Feeling isolated here in England, there are a few people here I am "friendly" with but I feel so drained and ill by evening I can't hang out or socialise which does not help much.

I was misdiagnosed with a certain genetic disorder (me and my brother both), he was rediagnosed with another (sort of related) genetic illness which has 5 different "types". I am waiting for my diagnosis.
If he has a different genetic illness then I also do (logically).
I am going to London shortly (I have been told it will be a Friday within 3 weeks so waiting for phone call) and I know I will either be told I have a "type" of what that illness or something else.
My health its slowly getting worse and worrying me (worse from medication giving me an stomach ulcer) and I am not even back in Ireland with family, and I do want to complete my degree but I fear if I get the "worst" news about this illness it will screw me up a bit.
Just scared to be honest and losing energy to give a damn about anything.

There is more going on (christ so much more bollocks going on than this) and I seen a poxy counsellor here with the uni and after 10 sessions its just not helping me much.

I think this is more a rant than anything but I am hating this so much right now.

JackieBauer

failinis wrote: »

Every time a health issue flags up I feel depression knocking on my door.
I can just about keep up with my degree, but once I come back from classes I lay in bed and try and sleep or am doped up with painkillers which don't even work.
Feeling isolated here in England, there are a few people here I am "friendly" with but I feel so drained and ill by evening I can't hang out or socialise which does not help much.

I was misdiagnosed with a certain genetic disorder (me and my brother both), he was rediagnosed with another (sort of related) genetic illness which has 5 different "types". I am waiting for my diagnosis.
If he has a different genetic illness then I also do (logically).
I am going to London shortly (I have been told it will be a Friday within 3 weeks so waiting for phone call) and I know I will either be told I have a "type" of what that illness or something else.
My health its slowly getting worse and worrying me (worse from medication giving me an stomach ulcer) and I am not even back in Ireland with family, and I do want to complete my degree but I fear if I get the "worst" news about this illness it will screw me up a bit.
Just scared to be honest and losing energy to give a damn about anything.

There is more going on (christ so much more bollocks going on than this) and I seen a poxy counsellor here with the uni and after 10 sessions its just not helping me much.

I think this is more a rant than anything but I am hating this so much right now.

Hang in there buddy, don't be hard on yourself. If you don't like you're therapist, just get a new one. You are well entitled to shop around. Maybe he/she is just an asshole

JackieBauer

JackieBauer wrote: »

Hang in there buddy, don't be hard on yourself. If you don't like you're therapist, just get a new one. You are well entitled to shop around. Maybe he/she is just an asshole

Or just not the right fit for each other?

DeVore

Failinis, that can quickly become overwhelming if you keep looking at everything in the "big picture". I feel exactly the same way sometimes. What works for me is to take 20 minutes, sit down and go through all the "big picture" things that need to be planned. Once I'm sure that they are timetable (doctors appointment in 3 weeks etc). I then set a reminder in my phone to remind me a few days before the next "big thing". After that I breathe deeply and try to focus on just the little things, making dinner, going out to see friends etc, and try to put my faith in the fact that I have planned the medium term and it DOESNT NEED TO BE REEXAMINED EVERY FIVE MINUTES TOM!!!
I know that's hard but you need a break from the enormity of your life and focus on just putting one foot in front of the other for a while.
This is what works for me. I aint you but hopefully you can find something that works for you in it. (I find lists very comforting and cos then I can just start at the top.)

failinis

JackieBauer wrote: »

Hang in there buddy, don't be hard on yourself. If you don't like you're therapist, just get a new one. You are well entitled to shop around. Maybe he/she is just an asshole

It's not so much that she "is an asshole" but she does not seem able to give advice about pretty serious things, there is a grand selection of 2 counsellors here so I may ask to see the other guy.

I also have to contend with the thoughts of going to court over something when I am back home (I was hoping it would wait till after I graduate).

Its just things piling up on me, I can feel myself slipping back into old habits and I want to nip it in the bud.

To be honest I need to wait and see whats the diagnosis and can move on from there.

failinis

failinis wrote: »

I think this is more a rant than anything but I am hating this so much right now.

You poor thing. There's an awful lot happening for you right now. Feeling isolated would be enough to shake the most robust of people let alone having health worries hanging over you as well. You are feeling overwhelmed so take things nice and slow. Be kind to yourself.
Writing things down can help. If you can skype your family as much as you can that might also help.

Definitely look at changing therapists. I don't know the system in the UK. There might be just the one in your university but see what you can do. If you find that you are stuck with that particular therapist try saying that you don't find it working for you and what do they suggest.

Best of luck to you.

failinis

Deleted User wrote: »

Or just not the right fit for each other?

I just said the same thing in a reply - just not the right match it appears, I gave it 10 goes so after that length of time..

DeVore wrote: »

Failinis, that can quickly become overwhelming if you keep looking at everything in the "big picture". I feel exactly the same way sometimes. What works for me is to take 20 minutes, sit down and go through all the "big picture" things that need to be planned. Once I'm sure that they are timetable (doctors appointment in 3 weeks etc). I then set a reminder in my phone to remind me a few days before the next "big thing". After that I breathe deeply and try to focus on just the little things, making dinner, going out to see friends etc, and try to put my faith in the fact that I have planned the medium term and it DOESNT NEED TO BE REEXAMINED EVERY FIVE MINUTES TOM!!!
I know that's hard but you need a break from the enormity of your life and focus on just putting one foot in front of the other for a while.
This is what works for me. I aint you but hopefully you can find something that works for you in it. (I find lists very comforting and cos then I can just start at the top.)

I think you are right, (one of the problems is that this "mystery" illness is still a mystery and I don't even know if I will get an answer in London right away or need more tests blah blah blah) so its a waiting game and my nerves are not happy for that.
The pain has moved from my stomach to my (upper) intestine, even though I have been off the medication that was said to cause it for 5 months etc and I tried to get an appointment today, none left for the week.

There is a lot of family stuff (not really anything to do with me directly at all) and been asked to help fix it.....No I can't I am the youngest and sure its not my bleeding problem :roll eyes:

Im just in a worked up mess - I will try and write down a "to-do" list and put "due dates" beside them for these serious type things.

Then make a nicer to do list of "post that gift, make lunch, blah blah" to balance it out.

Yeah I am just letting this all climb on top of me right now.

failinis

failinis wrote: »

I just said the same thing in a reply - just not the right match it appears, I gave it 10 goes so after that length of time..

I only saw your response after I posted

DeVore

Failinis, that family issue... seriously consider kicking it to the curb imho. A big thing for me is simplifying my life especially of drama or things that need fixing (because I find it very hard not to get absorbed by them and eaten up by them). You have a LOT going on in your life and no reasonable person is going to resent you saying "you know what, I have a degree, a diagnosis and a bunch of things happening in my private life so I'm sorry, I have to tap out". These other family members are older than you, you say, so they are adults. They need to sort their own s%^t out, they can do that without you. And don't dare feel guilty about that. Number 1 on your priorities list is your own mental wellbeing and NOTHING comes ahead of that.
Simplify simplify simplify. Write your lists, really do them well, then stop juggling everything in your head all the time because you have already juggled them and you have your lists and reminders. Then focus on the day to day and get through this ropey patch.
Don't be a stranger here either, we've all been in this sort of situation albeit maybe not exactly the same