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LETS ALL LAUGH AT PEOPLE WITH DEPRESSION!!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    Snowie wrote: »
    way i see it is.. at the moment Im pretty all over the place in terms of creativity and doing what I want to do...

    How ever 60 euros out of my weekly budget and no social life of the norm at the moment is worth it...

    Yeah, if I had €60 a week, of course it would be worth it!
    I just do not have the money.
    Whenever I have the money, I will start going again.
    There should be counselling subsidised by the state - it's fcuking ridiculous to have to pay someone €60 on average to help with your emotional problems.
    How many people at the moment actually have that sort of money like??!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    aurin07 wrote: »
    Alot more then any of us can do over a keyboard..

    Just do it. Weight off shoulders...

    Yes but hitting keys on a keyboard is easy. For me, going to a doctor is almost impossible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭davidd24


    Seen and read this thread a couple of months ago, read it and thought how good it was to see people making a step and talking or discussing it here on Boards.

    Ive never suffered from depression before, but three weeks ago for absolutley no reason i sunk! I cant describe it any other way, i just sunk. I feel like theres nothing for me and ive no way out from this.
    I cant see councelling helping me but from reading this thread talking about it seems to be the first step.

    Just wanted to say something kinda like a thanks to everyone who's posted here its helped me try to get a hold on this before it goes too far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    I used to suffer from pretty bad depression a few years ago. Had one really bad year and it caused me to fail and repeat a college year (in hindsight that was probably a good thing). I've had problems with self esteem, confidence, social anxiety and all of that. Sometimes during stressful times in my life like during exams it really pulls me down and I start to lost total confidence in myself. Then I begin my road to recovery. I try to push myself and do the things my anxiety tries to prohibit me from doing and I try and re-organise my life.

    One thing I'll say that really helped me keep moving on is I got these tapes by Anthony Robbins when I was going through my major depressive state a few years ago and they really helped me recover and get my life back together. Since then whenever I get very depressed and reach a state of desperation, I reach out for the tapes and listen to them and follow the exercises he tells me do and it always helps me get over my depression, anxiety and confidence issues. So I'ld really recommend ye guys to give a shot at listening to Anthony Robbins tapes. They really work!! They're just like CBT I guess but its better cuz that guy is amazing at what he does and how he does it and also you can do it at your own home without going to and paying some therapist.

    The one very important thing is you should never give up. Every time I feel depressed, I never give up and accept its my natural state. I constantly try to find ways of improving myself and getting out of this destructive state. There are some things I accept as normal for me like I've accepted that I'm more of an introvert person and I wouldn't be the best at large social gatherings but I won't accept that I have depression or social anxiety or any other "illness" because once you accept it and make it a part of yourself, you give up fighting to get over these things that hold you back and I don't want these issues to hold me back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    Yeah, if I had €60 a week, of course it would be worth it!
    I just do not have the money.
    Whenever I have the money, I will start going again.
    There should be counselling subsidised by the state - it's fcuking ridiculous to have to pay someone €60 on average to help with your emotional problems.
    How many people at the moment actually have that sort of money like??!
    There are mental health services available to medical card holders, including group therapy and some counselling. Like many medical services, these are far from ideal, but they do exist.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    There are mental health services available to medical card holders, including group therapy and some counselling. Like many medical services, these are far from ideal, but they do exist.

    I've asked my doctor before and he doesn't know of anything other than the hse psychs (who you don't see often enough to actually be helpful!)
    Any idea who I could ask about this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    I've asked my doctor before and he doesn't know of anything other than the hse psychs (who you don't see often enough to actually be helpful!)
    Any idea who I could ask about this?

    There are many day hospitals where they do group therapies and other activities so you can interact with other people and get better. Though I think you need a psychiatrist referral to be "admitted" into the day hospital...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    I've asked my doctor before and he doesn't know of anything other than the hse psychs (who you don't see often enough to actually be helpful!)
    Any idea who I could ask about this?
    I'm only half-joking when I say that you might need to change your GP. An essential role for your GP is to be the gateway to other services. If he can't fulfil this role, you might need to find a GP who can.

    The HSE psych should also be able to guide you through their services. See http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/Find_a_Service/Mental_Health_Services/ to find out more about what is available in your area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    Flutterflye it might depend on the facilities available in your area. I was referred to the hse by my doctor last April,after a month I was set up with an appointment for psychiatric services,which meant I now see someone every 6-8weeks to deal with my meds. Then after talking to him about waiting on therapy for so long,he wrote another letter saying I was in need of it.

    A month after him doin that I got an appointment for my talk therapy. I'm at it 4weeks now. It's free. And she seems great so far.

    I'd suggest looking up what services are available in your area. And push your doctor to do something for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,805 ✭✭✭jammstarr


    Before I couldn't even function: couldn't go to the shop, work or school. Now I'm a bit "better" and can go outside etc but still feel very much stuck in the mud. I think I just have to accept I'll be a miserable & anxious forever.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 159 ✭✭kermit_the_dog


    davidd24 wrote: »
    Seen and read this thread a couple of months ago, read it and thought how good it was to see people making a step and talking or discussing it here on Boards.

    Ive never suffered from depression before, but three weeks ago for absolutley no reason i sunk! I cant describe it any other way, i just sunk. I feel like theres nothing for me and ive no way out from this.
    I cant see councelling helping me but from reading this thread talking about it seems to be the first step.

    Just wanted to say something kinda like a thanks to everyone who's posted here its helped me try to get a hold on this before it goes too far.

    was your life struck by a sudden change , beit with your job , family , health , depression is nearly always brought on by a sudden turn of events which shocks your psychology , panic can set in as its all so strange and like nothing you,ve ever felt before , unfortunatley some people succumb to the negativity and its like their in quick sand , slowly sinking into a permanent dark mood , their should be an apparent course of action which helps you regather your self , a new direction , challenge etc , unfortunatley , a lot of people start to procrastinate rather than going for it , then the depression takes hold and takes root , i look back now and recall when the moment was when depression raised its ugly head , had i followed my instinct instead of procrastinating and laying down my arms , i would not live with depression ( of varying degrees on and off ) for over thirteen years , the not having gone with my gut when i had the option of a new begining , left feelings of deep regret and guilt which of course contributes to depression , im sure therapy is usefull but IMO , focusing on descisive action early before depression becomes very real and paralysing is much better , therapy is like having treatment for lung cancer , its nescessery when the **** has already hit the fan , better to avoid reaching that low level by being pro active ( not smoking + exercise ) before the depression gets a chance to set in

    dont live a life of second best which is really what living with depression is


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    jammstarr wrote: »
    Before I couldn't even function: couldn't go to the shop, work or school. Now I'm a bit "better" and can go outside etc but still feel very much stuck in the mud. I think I just have to accept I'll be a miserable & anxious forever.

    Actually you don't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    My depression is really killing me, I just cried heavily in front of my parents just there. They're really worried about me now.

    I've begun councilling (had two sessions now) and have been described anti depressants (citalopram) which I've been on for a week.

    I don't feel any better, just hoplessness. I feel I'm better off dead, not suicidal short term, but long term if I don't win this fight which I fear I won't. :(

    I sat a phq-9 test and scored I think around 20, meaning I'm going to be diagnosed with moderate to severe or severe depression. There's no history of depression in family which makes it tougher why I feel naturally like this.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 159 ✭✭kermit_the_dog


    Gnobe wrote: »
    My depression is really killing me, I just cried heavily in front of my parents just there. They're really worried about me now.

    I've begun councilling (had two sessions now) and have been described anti depressants (citalopram) which I've been on for a week.

    I don't feel any better, just hoplessness. I feel I'm better off dead, not suicidal short term, but long term if I don't win this fight which I fear I won't. :(

    I sat a phq-9 test and scored I think around 20, meaning I'm going to be diagnosed with moderate to severe or severe depression. There's no history of depression in family which makes it tougher why I feel naturally like this.

    has thier been any sudden change in your life of late


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    has thier been any sudden change in your life of late

    No not really. I'm a student studying a telecommunications masters. I had 5 exams , did the first one, failed the second and attempted suicide only for my brother to return early from lectures I may not have been here. My parents begged me to come home knowing my problems and not to sit the remaining three so I agreed.

    But its not my exams that are hurting me, it caused me to fail because I couldn't get motivated and hated my life so much. The failing has contributed somewhat, but what has hurt me really is my social life/outlook in life in general.

    I'm a bit of a loner, have no friends, and haven't had any since really I was 15. I just can't make any friends for some reason, I just can't. :(

    In addition to which its not suprising to know that I am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, and basically just one big massive social outcast as I believe the world hates me. I'm ashamed of being a virgin that I've considered an escort, but I feel that could depress me in the long run even more, because well, it is really sad. But I'm 25, 26 in august you know.

    I have no future, hate the way I look and find living at times unbearable. I feel basically, like a total failure. I don't want to talk about suicide on the net because its dangerous, but doesn't take a genius to work out that my life prospects and in the long run, I am suicidal. Short term I will fight it though, see these councillors, keep taking the anti-depressants, but I worry that this wont work. :(

    Basically I hate myself so much that I feel I need to destroy myself to avoid further embarresment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,805 ✭✭✭jammstarr


    Actually you don't.

    Well I've tried not to first but hasn't worked.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Just to add most anti-depressants take atleast 2-4 weeks to produce any noticable effect so you've just gotta hang in there with the meds and after a couple more weeks they should work. If not uplift your mood they should make you feel more motivated atleast. So if you've been taking anti-depressants for a couple of weeks and haven't noticed any change, dont dismiss them off, just give it some more time...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 159 ✭✭kermit_the_dog


    Gnobe wrote: »
    No not really. I'm a student studying a telecommunications masters. I had 5 exams , did the first one, failed the second and attempted suicide only for my brother to return early from lectures I may not have been here. My parents begged me to come home knowing my problems and not to sit the remaining three so I agreed.

    But its not my exams that are hurting me, it caused me to fail because I couldn't get motivated and hated my life so much. The failing has contributed somewhat, but what has hurt me really is my social life/outlook in life in general.

    I'm a bit of a loner, have no friends, and haven't had any since really I was 15. I just can't make any friends for some reason, I just can't. :(

    In addition to which its not suprising to know that I am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, and basically just one big massive social outcast as I believe the world hates me. I'm ashamed of being a virgin that I've considered an escort, but I feel that could depress me in the long run even more, because well, it is really sad. But I'm 25, 26 in august you know.

    I have no future, hate the way I look and find living at times unbearable. I feel basically, like a total failure. I don't want to talk about suicide on the net because its dangerous, but doesn't take a genius to work out that my life prospects and in the long run, I am suicidal. Short term I will fight it though, see these councillors, keep taking the anti-depressants, but I worry that this wont work. :(

    Basically I hate myself so much that I feel I need to destroy myself to avoid further embarresment.


    being a virgin at 25 is only a big deal because society in 2012 in this country says it is , among your parents generation and mine , being a virgin at 25 was completley normal and many men and women married as virgins and were they any worse for it ? , dont pay an escort to loose it , would you want to look back in twenty years and say that was my first time , id have more respect for someone who remained a virgin throughout their life than someone who went and paid for it , thats a dark and souless path

    it might sound like a cliche but why dont you go to australia or even canada or the usa for a year , a cousin of mine who was at a dead end went over a decade ago and it transformed the man inside out , im no wise owl but if suicide is on your mind , why not make a deal with yourself , postpone doing anything final for a year , go overseas for a year , land in oz or canada or whatever , check into a backpackers , if you dont bump into someone there , head to a local irish pub , if you dont fit in , you can always move to another city , its amazing how little you care when your an annonymous abroad , no on judges you and you are able to come out of yourself , add to that the irish abroad are good at looking out for each other , networks can be made , no need to be too open about why you are over there or anything like that , pretend you are confident and eventually you will be , people only know what you tell them , perception is
    reality , what have you to loose

    good luck


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    jammstarr wrote: »
    Actually you don't.

    Well I've tried not to first but hasn't worked.
    So try something different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,805 ✭✭✭jammstarr


    So try something different.

    Not meaning to sound flippant but like what?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    I feel like, at this point, I'm living cos of.. something. And, I'm choosing to do this something. So I shouldn't complain about it. But that something is cretaing a cycle I was hoping, I'd come out of it. But I haven't/ so sucks to be me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    I was beginning to get into a rut there and i felt the need to read that first post there again, massive tonic for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    But posting here should never take the place of taking real action be it going for a walk, talking to a friend, your dr or a counselor. I totally under stand the urge to reach out but don't let posting here, get in the way of reaching out in real life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    I dont think Ive ever posted in this thread, Im afraid to be too open on a public forum. been medicated for maybe 6 years now, its pretty **** and I feel like Ive lost my 20's to it. suffered as a young teenager too but didnt get 'help' till 20's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 BeautyFromPain


    I dont think Ive ever posted in this thread, Im afraid to be too open on a public forum. been medicated for maybe 6 years now, its pretty **** and I feel like Ive lost my 20's to it. suffered as a young teenager too but didnt get 'help' till 20's.

    well done on posting :)

    try not to be too afraid posting. remember, you've an illness, and that's nothing to be ashamed of xx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 BeautyFromPain


    Brilliant to see this thread!

    I hope to post more on it.

    Can I also please share the link of my mental health blog with you? http://beautyfrompainblog.wordpress.com/

    Thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    ^Beautyfrom pain I like the name, is that from the album?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 BeautyFromPain


    cloud493 wrote: »
    ^Beautyfrom pain I like the name, is that from the album?

    Thank you very much :)

    I love the song by SuperChick and it's a bit of a motto of mine. I have been really unwell the past few years, and now I am on a bit of a mission to make something good from it.

    The lyrics from the song that I love are: After all this has passed, I still will remain. After I've cried my last, there'll be beauty from pain.

    I love the idea of making beauty from the pain that I've been through with my mental health problems.

    Sorry I probably sound so cliched and cheesy lol :D



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    That's the one, I like that band :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 BeautyFromPain


    cloud493 wrote: »
    That's the one, I like that band :P

    I hadn't heard of them until I came across the song. I keep meaning to check out more of their stuff. :)


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