LETS ALL LAUGH AT PEOPLE WITH DEPRESSION!!

Drumpot

DeVore wrote: »

Near FM asked me for an interview about this thread as part of Mental Health Week.

Its in two parts and you can find them here...

http://nearpodcast.org/pcast/?p=7446

Tom.

I didnt know you were one of the co-founders of boards! Better watch my P's and Q's!

Seriously though well played , superb thread and superb interview. Gives me hope, particularly when a storm is coming ! !

paddyopot

DeVore wrote: »

Near FM asked me for an interview about this thread as part of Mental Health Week.

Its in two parts and you can find them here...

http://nearpodcast.org/pcast/?p=7446

Tom.

Excellent stuff, i enjoyed the podcast, thank you very much.

TeddyTedson

Sorry I'm in a rush to get to bed and haven't the time to look through this thread.
But heard about this app on Matt Cooper yesterday!
http://www.workoutapp.ie/

Nighty night

Insect Overlord

DeVore wrote: »

Near FM asked me for an interview about this thread as part of Mental Health Week.

Its in two parts and you can find them here...

http://nearpodcast.org/pcast/?p=7446

Tom.

I really needed that! Strange as that may sound. I was subscribed to this thread for a few months after you started it but I stopped reading it regularly back in the spring. I was doing well enough there for the past year or so, apart from a little blip in February. I think I thought I didn't need to read this thread while things were going well inside my head.

The problem now is I've been feeling some of the same familiar sensations that I remember all too well from some of my bad spells. Winter 2007 and 2010 in particular come to mind. Lack of energy, no desire to do many of the things I usually enjoy, no drive to get things done for work or writing or study, feeling nervous around other people for no reason at all.

I used to blog about things like this, but I disabled that at the end of the summer. I'd say I've just let things build up too much. All the little things jumbled together into one intimidating pile of awkwardness. And instead of talking to people about it I've just pretended things were grand, fine, "not too bad, and you?"

That podcast was nicely timed. A gentle reminder to breathe, communicate, unload, and look for ways of dealing with all the little issues one by one. Cheers for that!

Princess Peach

Insect Overlord wrote: »

The problem now is I've been feeling some of the same familiar sensations that I remember all too well from some of my bad spells. Winter 2007 and 2010 in particular come to mind. Lack of energy, no desire to do many of the things I usually enjoy, no drive to get things done for work or writing or study, feeling nervous around other people for no reason at all.

So strange, I've been the exact same lately, for the first time in almost 2 years! Been trying to make an active change these past few days since I realised it, but sometimes I forget to :P

Take care

DeVore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCEzoOpG1zQ

kinda relevant to your post I.O. (plus a cracking song imho!)

Nono1980

Tom, excellent interview & very well explained. Hope ur good & will see you soon x

guitarzero

Theres a great quote by Douglas Coupland - "Depression is having a lot of love and no ones' taking".

This is major part of it for me. The sense of feeling unacceptable and unwanted is quite compounding.

First time replying to this thread, but I've dipped in and out of it over the months....

...today after cancelling the appointment 3 times over the last few weeks, I went to the doctor, and it all came pouring out. It took months for me to admit I needed more help than I've gotten in the past, but I've made the first step....

PC CDROM

Starla_o0 wrote: »

First time replying to this thread, but I've dipped in and out of it over the months....

...today after cancelling the appointment 3 times over the last few weeks, I went to the doctor, and it all came pouring out. It took months for me to admit I needed more help than I've gotten in the past, but I've made the first step....

Fair play and well done.

I wish I could do the same but I think if anyone else can help me.... then I can myself. I will self help.

PC CDROM

PC CDROM wrote: »

Fair play and well done.

I wish I could do the same but I think if anyone else can help me.... then I can myself. I will self help.

I felt like this for years....and years, and years. But over the past few months I realised my thoughts were going to a bad, bad place and it scared the sh!t out of me.

If someone had told me I needed to go to the doctor I would have ignored them. If I had confided in someone, I would have felt I didn't need a doctor. I needed to do it my own way. I've taken the first step. What's to come though scares me more than the rest of it.

BrianG23

It's good that you went to the doctor Starla, i've had this for years now and never bothered, I just put up with it, I don't want Medication for it but it's getting bad again, left college twice due to it(or maybe i'm just lazy :P) and am starting to mess up this one too. I just feel **** about attending it and being around people, not sure if I have social anxiety or Depression(think I have both, they seem to go hand in hand for me), but I also feel nothing like OP. It's very annoying, feeling nothing, I can't seem to hold a casual conversation anymore either even with my close friends, I just feel nothing when speaking about crap. I also used to be funny and just am not at all anymore. The only feelings I do get are anxiety really. What I notice is I often get Insomnia when it's getting bad, like right now. 4am, I just ain't tired. None of my friends 'get' it either. "Everyone is down sometimes" is what one of them said to me. I just sat there. Didn't even know this thread existed till now. At this stage I can't believe I ended up like over something so stupid, but I was very upset over it back then.

Props to Devore, Everyone in the world should read this

woodyg

well just an update
it's been a while since i posted on here with my little (long) rant about how i felt and well a dear friend some one i deeply care about has had a real positive impact and got me to see someone professionally for the first consult last week and though i felt like a back of nerves and was emotionally and physically drained it was a positive experience.

Bergkamp 10

does anyone else feel depression and alcohol abuse can go hand in hand.

Its like the chicken and the egg with me , I dont know which came first. I had a rough time in school for a few years but I coped, nobody would even have noticed I took it all in my stride.

I cant handle things like that anymore, I believe its due to alcohol/depression. I dont know what to do, first things first I'm trying to give up alcohol which is very difficult in this country at my young age. Its quite sad but I really cant think of anyone I know who doesnt drink I'll see how abstinence of alcohol goes, then head to the GP again for some help.

woodyg

oh no doubt there inter linked, Alcohol is a mood drug and effects deeply a persons thinking. If you don't feel good drink makes it worse, if you feel good it makes you feel great.
it's a bad thing to be doing when you feel down or up as it heightens the good and pulls you lower in the bad.

i avoid drinking as much as i can when i feel real low as I've seen the damage first hand what drink will do to a persons mental state.

wonderfullife

This thread is a small tool for all of us to have our voices heard. It's hard enough to internalise how we feel and how this terrible thing affects us but places like this and people like Tom starting this all give us an outlet.

For me anyway, as hard as it is to cope myself and to hear my own voice, it's even harder to allow other people too close to it. The more i think about it though that's probably more than half the battle, allowing your feelings (your voice) to be heard. It's ok not to be ok.

With that in mind, i think it's worth having a listen to this and baring in mind a section of the lyrics when listening to it. Hope everyone is doing well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9QJofB-ppk

"You've spent a life time stuck in silence
afraid you'll say something wrong
If no one ever hears it how we gonna learn your song?
So come, on come on
Come on, come on
You've got a heart as loud as lions
So why let your voice be tamed?
Baby we're a little different
there's no need to be ashamed
You've got the light to fight the shadows
so stop hiding it away.......

Yeah we're all wonderful, wonderful people
so when did we all get so fearful?
Now we're finally finding our voices
so take a chance, come help me sing this"

excellence

Martin King will be interviewing someone on his programme tomorrow morning at 11am about how he overcame depression.

Morag

www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life.html

https://www.superbetter.com/

DeVore

Its kinda funny how we all reach the same milestones and conclusions with this thing.
For my part I have taken to charting any low days or moods I have had and they strongly correlate with bad sleep, loneliness or alcohol usage.

Alcohol is definitely a trigger for me, I'd love that not to be true and maybe one day it wont be but its pretty clear that right now getting mashed leave me bad for the next two days. Maybe not "depressed" (though I'm not even sure when that term is applicable or not) but definitely in a low mood.

So, now I'm limiting myself to a glass or two of red wine, or a beer or two but even that can have an effect I've noticed so ideally I'm cutting it out for now.


Hope everyone is doing well, I'm really so pleased other people are talking about their concerns around this. I gotta tell you, there is hope. Genuinely, with some fairly minor changes to my outlook, some tricks my counselor has taught me and some well, "maturity" in me... things have been better than ever. I'm less manic, more centred, less neurotic, more pleasant to be around I think (:)) and generally calmer. People are even commenting on it!
So please, dont let "what will people think!" stop you from getting help.

One thing I've learned this year is "The people that matter dont mind and the people that mind dont matter."

gallag

Is depression a first world problem? I.e are any of the starving Africans depressed as well?

gallag

DeVore wrote: »

Alcohol is definitely a trigger for me, I'd love that not to be true and maybe one day it wont be but its pretty clear that right now getting mashed leave me bad for the next two days. Maybe not "depressed" (though I'm not even sure when that term is applicable or not) but definitely in a low mood.

Hangover?

gallag banned for trolling

Coffeeteasugar

godeas16 wrote: »

Having a bad day today, lot of stuff running around my mind that whilst happened a long time ago was still not trivial and still I can't stop it running through my head and upsetting me, wishing I'd reacted differently
Does anyone get this with their depression like flashbacks or painful memories
that resurface?

I get bouts of this too. Haven't done much about it tho.

excellence

This programme was broadcast on TV3 last Monday about one man's journey in overcoming depression:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiErpEPpSi4&feature=youtu.be&noredirect=1

molly09

HI, I am having a really time recently. i just cant stop crying and see no joy whatsoever in life. At this stage I dont ever expect anything good to happen. Eveeryone says that nothing in life ever stays the same, I think they mean thaht things will improve but to be honest I just feel yea nothing stays the same they get progressively worse.
I am so lonely at the moment I would love a hug. Just to be held tightly in someones arm. Is that weird. I dont even know at this stage.
In the shops and on TV and at work all everyone is talking about is Christmas. I hate Christmas it just reinforces how lonely and sad my life is. When I was younger I never was nieve enough to expect that life would turn out as expected but I never thought it would end up like this.
I dont know my point of this message to be honest. I guess I dont have anyone to talk to. The night times are so difficult, A hour at night time feels like a enternity and you are so alone alone in the world at night time.
Weekends are very difficult also, I guess its lack of routine and the fact that I may go the whole weekend with only talking to the girl in the shop.

DeVore

Is wanting a hug badly, weird? omg, no thats soooo not weird heheh... I've had times I felt like my chest would get crushed inward like a container deep underwater I wanted a hug that much. Its perfectly human and normal. In my experience, meditation and talking really help. Force yourself to socialise, try something new! But happiness comes from between your ears not from outside things or people... thats where meditation can help (and that doesnt mean closing your eyes and concentrating on all the "bad" things in your life like I used to do ... try to read a few webpages on meditating and follow them.
Big e-hugs....

opinion guy

I just saw this and thought it was worth posting.

Ian Thorpe on his own depression and suicidal thoughts. He speaks well. Gotta say that after his excellent commentary for the BBC during the Olympics and now this interview I think very highly of this guy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/9768266.stm

marcanthony1

Thumbs Up to you DeVore and I think its a step forward when we find people we can talk openly about it...M

FunkZ

<3 this thread!

Drumpot

Hi All,

I finished a 6 week cognative behavioural therapy group session monday week ago . .

http://www.aware.ie//help/support/awares_life_skills_programme/

I put a post or two during this time, but always wanted to come back and let people know how I felt about it.

The course itself is very basic stuff that we should all know and its the kind of stuff that when listening or discussing you would think "sure thats obvious". That said, I have found the course both enlightening and helpful. I think its like everything, its not for everybody but I do think that you have to emotionally/consciously commit to the course from the outset. You have to accept that there will be things you will do/hear that seem childish/silly/obvious, but its an important part of the course.

I cant speak for others, but one of the single most important thing I took from the course is that habits can have a serious impact on your life, positively and negatively. The best example is some of the bad habits I default to:

• If something bad has happened its probabley my fault
• On top of this, if something bad has happened something else bad is prob on the way
• Coupled with this, I start thinking of bad/upsetting things from my past that make me feel worse
• The vicious cycle goes on and gets worse . .

Since the course my life is by no means perfect but two incidents stick out with me that I am hoping are a sign of progression:

• I changed Doctors. Up until recently I always assumed I was just a bad patient because anytime I went into my Dr I felt I was taking up his time and he dismissed things quite regularly. He also got snotty with me about certain things. I let these things go and assumed I was just a sh*tty patient. On reflection, I wasnt valuing myself as a patient and excused poor professional behaviour because of my lack of self worth.
• An existing client was discussing a current plan with another competitor. This happens in my industry regularly but my default stance is usually to blame myself and beat myself up (in my head) until I have absolutely zero confidence, zero self esteem and have settled that I am a useless human being. This time I phoned up the client to meet them. Whats not important is whether or not they remain with me, its the fact that I didnt beat myself up, this happens in the industry. Instead of beating myself up I used it as a positive to try and get my ass in gear to try and prevent it happening again.

I discussed, with me new Doctor, everything that has been on my mind and that has happened. They were suprised with some of the methods of my previous doctor, which further backs up my decision to move. I feel in some way like I have taken some control of the issues in my life that I once felt were just a part of me. My new doctor has discussed personal CBT therapy (which I agree) which gives me hope, for the first time, that I might actually be able to live a more balanced life.

Like everything in life, again I must stress, this is not for everybody, but you never know unless you go. For me there were nights I didnt want to goto the course but i felt good after going (simply because I completed something I comitted to).