Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

FG vs FF - Sabre Rattling

Options
«13

Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭soterpisc


    The next election is Mulherins to loose. She really is out to make a name for herself. Certainly have heard more from her than every from Calleary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭neiphin


    finisklin wrote: »

    Wonder what HarryPotter's take is on this?
    who cares, his a tool, and he will always get back into the dail


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    soterpisc wrote: »
    The next election is Mulherins to loose. She really is out to make a name for herself. Certainly have heard more from her than every from Calleary.

    When exactly did she make her veiws known in the last few months, she has been completely off the radar since her Libya comments. She then pops up to again complain about the FF government. Has she no views on her own party in government?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭soterpisc


    When exactly did she make her veiws known in the last few months, she has been completely off the radar since her Libya comments. She then pops up to again complain about the FF government. Has she no views on her own party in government?

    Not much, but neither has calleary. He is only on TV because he is FF spokesman for something, haventy heard anything about him regarding Ballina or mayo for that fact. But what is a first time FG TD got a chance to do. She will find it very hard to be reelected in Mayo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    1. Mulherin is almost a generation younger than the other 3 FG TDs.

    2. Ballina is a big town and has a wide hinterland. It usually elected two TDs and herself and Calleary will both be around for 3 to 4 elections..


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 360 ✭✭Paddy De Plasterer


    Calleary, Mr. Bean has nothing to offer. Has a good media image when he was promoted out of turn by Biffo, but then he tried to distance himself from Biffo. He then seconded Martin for leadership - he is just a jumped up character who likes to be on bandwagons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭Ilovelucy


    Much prefer Dara to Michelle. He is very approachable. She likes to be seen but is seldom heard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Looks like Mayo has received its unfair share from the department of Transport, Tourism and Sport a la Mickey Ring. He hasn't been shy in getting his picture in the local papers either for these projects!

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1215/1224309098948.html

    Always nice to see some disportionate investment come west even if it is for bicycle lanes :o.

    Fair play.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    When exactly did she make her veiws known in the last few months, she has been completely off the radar since her Libya comments. She then pops up to again complain about the FF government. Has she no views on her own party in government?

    Hey Harry, what happened the Rapid funding and is Mulhearn's allegation true? Not like DC to get caught with his pants down :p


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    finisklin wrote: »
    Looks like Mayo has received its unfair share from the department of Transport, Tourism and Sport a la Mickey Ring. He hasn't been shy in getting his picture in the local papers either for these projects!

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1215/1224309098948.html

    Always nice to see some disportionate investment come west even if it is for bicycle lanes :o.

    Fair play.

    About time! :D Its typical local politics but if you drive through Donegal or Offaly and see the roads there ;)


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭Ilovelucy


    The cycle lanes are a shambles in Ballina. No proper planning as usual. They can throw all the money the like at them but surely they could have got them right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    finisklin wrote: »
    Hey Harry, what happened the Rapid funding and is Mulhearn's allegation true? Not like DC to get caught with his pants down :p


    The devil is in the detail Finisklin. What projects did not get funding? If this happened it is disgraceful but a clearer breakdown would be great so it could be looked at in more detail. Surely she should now be in a position to ensure the funding of those projects.

    Would also love to hear her views on the N26 now, gone strangely quiet on it now that FG are in government


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 687 ✭✭✭headmaster


    She's part of the scum FG that has stopped the expansion of the mayo railway system, the roscommon hospital, the cutting of turf, the transfer of public service jobs, etc, etc. Oh yes, the west will know all about her in the next election, just you wait and see. Flynn got the boot, Carty ran away scared, kennt scraped in once. Wtch this space, there's butt to be kicked and hers is a cheeky butt + she's not a people person.:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 360 ✭✭Paddy De Plasterer


    Fianna Fail will never be forgiven or forgotten for what they did-bringing in the IMF,and sold out our independence. Scum traitors.


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭Ilovelucy


    Gosh you are very bitter there Paddy - a lot won't forget what Fine Gael are now doing to us. And don't give me the auld sure it's not their fault it's the legacy they inherited, that's no reason only an excuse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 360 ✭✭Paddy De Plasterer


    Ilovelucy wrote: »
    Gosh you are very bitter there Paddy - a lot won't forget what Fine Gael are now doing to us. And don't give me the auld sure it's not their fault it's the legacy they inherited, that's no reason only an excuse.

    Not their fault ? Bringing in IMF, famous disastrous guarantee of Sept 29th.2008, they ruined for us for generations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    The post title is related to the Rapid funding and that it was never allocated to Ballina in the first instance! Any views why not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    Not their fault ? Bringing in IMF, famous disastrous guarantee of Sept 29th.2008, they ruined for us for generations.

    Yet Enda is quite happily trying to sign away oversight for our budgets to Europe permanently and it doesn't seem to excite you in the least.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 687 ✭✭✭headmaster


    FG now letting Mayo down, have let Roscommon down, have let Tipperarry down, have let Mullingar/Westmeath down, making a mess in Dublin and got their by election answer, plenty of other counties being whipped. Don't for one second think that the electorate of this country are not watching, we are and we're waiting in the long grass for Fg and to a lesser extent Labour. The time for blaming FF is over and well gone. Stand up Kenny, be ready to take a huge beating, because that's exactly what you'll be handed. Guaranteed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    headmaster wrote: »
    FG now letting Mayo down, have let Roscommon down, have let Tipperarry down, have let Mullingar/Westmeath down, making a mess in Dublin and got their by election answer, plenty of other counties being whipped. Don't for one second think that the electorate of this country are not watching, we are and we're waiting in the long grass for Fg and to a lesser extent Labour. The time for blaming FF is over and well gone. Stand up Kenny, be ready to take a huge beating, because that's exactly what you'll be handed. Guaranteed.

    The worrying thing is the elcectorate at the moment loathe FF, FG and Lab. That leaves a scary alternative.


  • Advertisement
  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 687 ✭✭✭headmaster


    Harry,
    I don't disagree with that. Now is the time for like minded people to come together and offer the electorate an alternative. We're a relatively young state, no doubt there's room now for this. I'd like to think that moves may be afoot to bring this to the people. No, i'm not talking about the PD's again, but the people know that they're not being spoken for at the moment. Better brains than mine can surely give all of us an alternative. Truth, honesty, reality, implementation, only with the backing of the people. It's needed now, more than it ever has been and the country will come behind it. We need an alternative, NOW.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    headmaster wrote: »
    Harry,
    I don't disagree with that. Now is the time for like minded people to come together and offer the electorate an alternative. We're a relatively young state, no doubt there's room now for this. I'd like to think that moves may be afoot to bring this to the people. No, i'm not talking about the PD's again, but the people know that they're not being spoken for at the moment. Better brains than mine can surely give all of us an alternative. Truth, honesty, reality, implementation, only with the backing of the people. It's needed now, more than it ever has been and the country will come behind it. We need an alternative, NOW.

    As a card carrying member of FF dunno if I would agree with that, lol. I do know there has been a major disconnect with the electorate by all the major parties. FF members saw the train hurtling down the track and were helpless to stop it because they were not being listened to, its happening now but it probably is too late. Labour cannot claim to be truly socialist anymore. FG have always tended to be the party of the better off. The country definitely does not need the PD's because it was their low tax, low regulation policies and the pandering to them by Ahern that has caused part of the mess we're in. The FF I joined looked after the little man while ensuring business succeeded so that people could be employed. Its still the kind of party I would like to support, perhaps the country needs a new party with that kind of philosophy. Its a better alternative than SF or the hard left or the multitude of novelty Independents we have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    As a card carrying member of FF dunno if I would agree with that, lol. I do know there has been a major disconnect with the electorate by all the major parties. FF members saw the train hurtling down the track and were helpless to stop it because they were not being listened to, its happening now but it probably is too late. Labour cannot claim to be truly socialist anymore. FG have always tended to be the party of the better off. The country definitely does not need the PD's because it was their low tax, low regulation policies and the pandering to them by Ahern that has caused part of the mess we're in. The FF I joined looked after the little man while ensuring business succeeded so that people could be employed. Its still the kind of party I would like to support, perhaps the country needs a new party with that kind of philosophy. Its a better alternative than SF or the hard left or the multitude of novelty Independents we have.

    That's a bemusing spin.......


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    finisklin wrote: »
    That's a bemusing spin.......

    In what way?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Blaming FF policies on the PDs and Bertie.

    This is a rehash of a previous discussion/argument on here previous.

    BTW, what happened the Rapid cash? Did Calleary over sell this? Mulhearn is milking this for all its worth. Doesn't fit Dara's nice guy image. Was he that brazen?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    finisklin wrote: »
    Blaming FF policies on the PDs and Bertie.

    This is a rehash of a previous discussion/argument on here previous.

    BTW, what happened the Rapid cash? Did Calleary over sell this? Mulhearn is milking this for all its worth. Doesn't fit Dara's nice guy image. Was he that brazen?

    I don't blame the PD's, thye had the chance to implement their policies. I blame the pandering of Ahern to whatever kept him in power. Its only become clear now what a total dictatorship the man ran, it was becoming clear from 2005 on he brooked no opposition to anything within the party and certainly seems he was the same in government. Unfortunately too many were willing to go with the flow in the Parliamentary Party. So its not spin.As for the RAPID money I would still like details of what projects. Did they not get the money because they did not fulfill certain criteria or was the money just unavailable. All I have seen is a sweeping statement. And a great one to distract from the current governments woes. I can't comment when I don't have facts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    I don't blame the PD's, thye had the chance to implement their policies. I blame the pandering of Ahern to whatever kept him in power. Its only become clear now what a total dictatorship the man ran, it was becoming clear from 2005 on he brooked no opposition to anything within the party and certainly seems he was the same in government. Unfortunately too many were willing to go with the flow in the Parliamentary Party. So its not spin.As for the RAPID money I would still like details of what projects. Did they not get the money because they did not fulfill certain criteria or was the money just unavailable. All I have seen is a sweeping statement. And a great one to distract from the current governments woes. I can't comment when I don't have facts.

    Its pretty clear - Mulhearn has claimed that DC confirmed Rapid funding for Ballina to the total of €250k. He either did or did not confirm this funding. Granted it may be comprised of a number of projects but the silence from his camp is pretty damning, IMHO.

    If he can't or doesn'r refute it makes his position a hell of a lot less credible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    finisklin wrote: »
    Its pretty clear - Mulhearn has claimed that DC confirmed Rapid funding for Ballina to the total of €250k. He either did or did not confirm this funding. Granted it may be comprised of a number of projects but the silence from his camp is pretty damning, IMHO.

    If he can't or doesn'r refute it makes his position a hell of a lot less credible.

    Its not quite that crystal clear. He confirmed funding was available, totally different to it being drawn down. To claim funding projects have to be presented for to draw down funding within certain criteria. What I want to know is what projects did not receive it and if they did not receive it was it due to not meeting criteria or just no funding being available. MM seems to have made a sweeping statement with very little gristle, I would be as anxious to challenge DC on it as anyone but would like to have some idea what I would be talking about first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭Ilovelucy


    I'd love to find a link to where Dara actually promised this as ringfenced. I have googled away to my hearts delight but can find nothing.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Ballina mayor appointed to RAPID implementation team as programme gets funding boost

    Mayo Advertiser, December 23, 2009.


    Ballina will get a €250,000 boost for RAPID prorgrammes following an annoucement this week by Minister for Community, Rural and Gaelacht affairs Éamon Ó Cuív. The funding is Ballina’s share in one-off funding announced for the five new towns which were given RAPID status this year. The towns will share in €1.25 million from the Dormant Accounts Fund.



    The funding will be drawn down over two years and will be used for stand alone projects such as playgrounds, improving disabled and community facilities, and enducation and environmental improvments.
    Ballina Town Council Mayor Mary Kelly was appointed as the town council representative to the area implementation team for the RAPID programme which will be starting in Ballina. Earlier this year Ballina was included with four other towns around the country to be included in the RAPID programme. The programme is a Government initiative to target the 51 most disadvantaged communities in the country.



    Mayor Kelly was proposed for the town council position on the implementation team by Independent Councillor Peter Clarke. Cllr Clarke told the meeting: “I know that Meara Kelly will be a very good representative for the council on this committee, she has shown down through the years to be very good at the sort of projects RAPID will be involved in, through her work in her own community over the years.”



    The RAPID programme aims to give communities an opportunity to develop projects and initiatives in their areas such as playgrounds, community centres, and sporting facilities, traffic calming measures, and enhancing housing estates.



    There was cross party support for Mayor Kelly’s appointment on the implementation team.


Advertisement