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goldie fish

Capri wrote: »

The Michigan State police tests seem to be one of the standards that US forces use. That test track certainly looks like a lot of Irish country roads

http://www.policemag.com/channel/vehicles/articles/2011/11/making-a-tough-decision.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ_CTA4jp6E

There is nothing in either link to support your statement. It looks like any other racetrack. With a shrubbery.

POGAN

The 1.6 silver tango unit in DMR in the gallery, seen this few times I think what happened it was meant to be unmarked car most of 11 reg Toyotas unmarked were 1.6 petrol cars,decision was made to mark of up, there is new 1.6 diesel 12 reg focus in the castle.

BC1987

POGAN wrote: »

The 1.6 silver tango unit in DMR in the gallery, seen this few times I think what happened it was meant to be unmarked car most of 11 reg Toyotas unmarked were 1.6 petrol cars,decision was made to mark of up, there is new 1.6 diesel 12 reg focus in the castle.

I wonder is this the reason it's on 'light' duties as such, a checkpoint for cyclists would'nt need much of an engine waiting closeby.

POGAN

BC1987 wrote: »

I wonder is this the reason it's on 'light' duties as such, a checkpoint for cyclists would'nt need much of an engine waiting closeby.

Wouldn't think so still newer car in the fleet.

BC1987

BC1987 wrote: »

I wonder is this the reason it's on 'light' duties as such, a checkpoint for cyclists would'nt need much of an engine waiting closeby.

No. It's their main car.

POGAN

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No. It's their main car.

Pease street isn't it?

Mister Jingles

Arent those 1.6 avensis turbo charged putting just over 130 bhp ? Might not be as quick off the line as the diesel but hardly incapable going by the figures.

Capri

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Arent those 1.6 avensis turbo charged putting just over 130 bhp ? Might not be as quick off the line as the diesel but hardly incapable going by the figures.

Not much in them , a good driver could make either sing :cool:

1.6 V-matic Active 5d petrol
0-60 mph 10.4 secs
Top Speed 121 mph
BHP 130 bhp

2.0 D-4D Icon+ 5d diesel
9.7 secs
124 mph
124 bhp

kub

Interesting to see the ERU and RSU together on that Donegal job. Do they work like that often?

EireGun

kub wrote: »

Interesting to see the ERU and RSU together on that Donegal job. Do they work like that often?

Wouldn't be uncommon. Garda ERU have worked with the RSU in the past on call-outs, as well as planned operations. Garda ERU would be an upper tier armed response, but RSU would be capable of dealing with most armed incidents.

POGAN

EireGun wrote: »

Wouldn't be uncommon. Garda ERU have worked with the RSU in the past on call-outs, as well as planned operations. Garda ERU would be an upper tier armed response, but RSU would be capable of dealing with most armed incidents.

They work together in limerick remember a checkpoint outside westen with both of them

Mister Jingles

Seen an Audi A6 yesterday flying down the north circular and into Mountjoy with a blue flowerpot strobe on the roof followed by a unmarked mondeo. Its been years since I've seen the the roof lights.

D Trent

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Seen an Audi A6 yesterday flying down the north circular and into Mountjoy with a blue flowerpot strobe on the roof followed by a unmarked mondeo. Its been years since I've seen the the roof lights.

From what era was the A6 do you have any idea?

Mister Jingles

D Trent wrote: »

From what era was the A6 do you have any idea?

Pretty sure it was the mk3, didn't get a proper look though.

Mr Simpson

Ministerial car?

Capri

Seen an Audi A6 yesterday flying down the north circular and into Mountjoy with a blue flowerpot strobe on the roof followed by a unmarked mondeo. Its been years since I've seen the the roof lights.

Mr Simpson wrote: »

Ministerial car?

No such luck (putting a Minister in the 'joy :P )

IIRC it's an A6 (4F) model - think Mary Harney used it before it was re-allocated :eek:

Mr Simpson

Capri wrote: »

No such luck (putting a Minister in the 'joy :P )

IIRC it's an A6 (4F) model - think Mary Harney used it before it was re-allocated :eek:

I missed the Mountjoy part, but I think you're right about it being Harney's car before

Mister Jingles

Mr Simpson wrote: »

I missed the Mountjoy part, but I think you're right about it being Harney's car before

They must have decent suspension in them.

Capri

I missed the Mountjoy part

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Seen an Audi A6 yesterday flying down the north circular and into Mountjoy with a blue flowerpot strobe on the roof followed by a unmarked mondeo. Its been years since I've seen the the roof lights.

That's what I was quoting from

Re the roof lights, they were probably cheaper than the labour cost of fitting (& removing at end of service) strobes all over the cars.

Mr Simpson

Capri wrote: »

I missed the Mountjoy part



That's what I was quoting from

Re the roof lights, they were probably cheaper than the labour cost of fitting (& removing at end of service) strobes all over the cars.

Pretty sure the ministerial cars only have the flowerpot light anyway, due to the rarity in which they'd use them

Hogzy

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Seen an Audi A6 yesterday flying down the north circular and into Mountjoy with a blue flowerpot strobe on the roof followed by a unmarked mondeo. Its been years since I've seen the the roof lights.

Saw the same cars coming down Dorset St by the Maldron towards the Smithfield direction. They were absolutely booting it!

POGAN

Mr Simpson wrote: »

I missed the Mountjoy part, but I think you're right about it being Harney's car before

Saw one them parked in the park during the summer with few escort cars

Mr Simpson

Mr Simpson wrote: »

Pretty sure the ministerial cars only have the flowerpot light anyway, due to the rarity in which they'd use them

No, they have grill/strobe/dash lights too.

Saw a 06 unmarked Mondeo estate the other day with integrated strobes and flowerpot light too.

Mr Simpson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, they have grill/strobe/dash lights too.

Saw a 06 unmarked Mondeo estate the other day with integrated strobes and flowerpot light too.

Not the last one I was in

EireGun

An additional €9 million will be spent on the Garda fleet over the next nine months with more than half of the allocation being spent on purchasing new vehicles before the end of the year.

Justice Minister Alan Shatter said this would bring the total spend on the fleet between 2012 and 2014 to €18m.

He pointed out that this represented an increase of 260pc on the total spend during the previous three years.

The Justice budget for the coming year has been fixed at almost €2.16bn, representing a drop of almost €70m on this year.

Mr Shatter said that despite reduced resources, the gardai on the front line were making the country a safer place with the most recent crime figures showing a decrease of over 20,000 offences – an overall reduction of 8pc.

He noted that burglaries had fallen by 8.9pc, reflecting the sustained garda drive against the gangs – which was the key objective of Operation Fiacla – while 6,678 people had been arrested and 3,770 charged, up to the end of last month.

He also announced that an expense allowance paid to part-timers in the Garda Reserve would be exempt from taxation and said it was only right that the allowance they received to cover expenses should not be taxed.

Public Expenditure Minister Brendan Howlin said an independent review of the garda force, agreed under the Haddington Road deal, would begin next year, while the new court of appeal and the legal services regulatory authority would also be set up in 2014.

Over €26m is being set aside for prison building and refurbishment and key projects include the construction of a new jail in Cork, beginning in December and due for occupation in the first half of 2016, as well as the provision of modern cells in Limerick Prison.

Work will also begin on seven new or refurbished courthouses at Wexford, Cork, Letterkenny, Drogheda, Waterford, Limerick and Mullingar as well as three new garda divisional headquarters at Wexford, Galway and Kevin Street in Dublin.

These should all be completed in early 2017 and the overall value of the projects will be in the region of €190m.

Tom Brady (Security Editor), Irish Independent

carzony

EireGun wrote: »

Tom Brady (Security Editor), Irish Independent

That kind of money should buy a huge number of new patrol cars:cool:..

POGAN

carzony wrote: »

That kind of money should buy a huge number of new patrol cars:cool:..

5 million would bout 250 / 260 but think about a lot 2011 cars will be coming end of life soon that's why there moving around at the moment.

Some more advance 2.2l mondeos would be nice for motorway units

carzony

POGAN wrote: »

5 million would bout 250 / 260 but think about a lot 2011 cars will be coming end of life soon that's why there moving around at the moment.

Some more advance 2.2l mondeos would be nice for motorway units

so you'd only get 2 years out of a patrol car? surely you'd get a lot longer than that?.. Theres a 2003 yaris and 2001 corolla still doing the rounds here..

source

carzony wrote: »

so you'd only get 2 years out of a patrol car? surely you'd get a lot longer than that?.. Theres a 2003 yaris and 2001 corolla still doing the rounds here..

You SHOULD only get 2 to 3 years out of a patrol car, remember these cars are on the road pretty much 24 hours a day 365 days of the year.

When you see older cars they are usually based at sleepy country stations or have been on a unit that the car doesn't see much use. City cars are pretty much useless after 2 to 3 years.

carzony

source wrote: »

You SHOULD only get 2 to 3 years out of a patrol car, remember these cars are on the road pretty much 24 hours a day 365 days of the year.

When you see older cars they are usually based at sleepy country stations or have been on a unit that the car doesn't see much use. City cars are pretty much useless after 2 to 3 years.

I never knew that.. So it would probably be cheap to buy police spec cars then? I'm assuming they'd last longer?

POGAN

carzony wrote: »

so you'd only get 2 years out of a patrol car? surely you'd get a lot longer than that?.. Theres a 2003 yaris and 2001 corolla still doing the rounds here..

Well also think about it in 2011 when they where bought there wasn't a purchase of regular fleet since 2007 so there was a lot cars grounded and others redeployed. Regular car in district hq if it's the main patrol car would do savage mileage 18 to 20 hours a day covering large area taken the slack of cars that where gone.

There still is some cars older around wouldn't be out on the road that much so saving mileage like ie compol units for example

POGAN

carzony wrote: »

I never knew that.. So it would probably be cheap to buy police spec cars then? I'm assuming they'd last longer?

Yes but never happen Volvo xc70 are the only police spec aren't under the 300,000 grounding limit

donvito99

They should nip over to Australia (left hand drive, you see), buy some Falcons and Commodores, forget your XC70s.

carzony

POGAN wrote: »

Well also think about it in 2011 when they where bought there wasn't a purchase of regular fleet since 2007 so there was a lot cars grounded and others redeployed. Regular car in district hq if it's the main patrol car would do savage mileage 18 to 20 hours a day covering large area taken the slack of cars that where gone.

There still is some cars older around wouldn't be out on the road that much so saving mileage like ie compol units for example

The main cars must go through some amount of tyres, bulbs and servicing then:eek:..

I'd also hate to see the parts bill

POGAN

carzony wrote: »

The main cars must go through some amount of tyres, bulbs and servicing then:eek:..

I'd also hate to see the parts bill

Last time I saw 12 month figures for the AGS fleet on servicing n repairs it was at least €1 million a month = 12 million over a year at least

carzony

POGAN wrote: »

Last time I saw 12 month figures for the AGS fleet on servicing n repairs it was at least €1 million a month = 12 million over a year at least

That's some amount of work.. The mechanics must be delighted

kub

POGAN wrote: »

Last time I saw 12 month figures for the AGS fleet on servicing n repairs it was at least €1 million a month = 12 million over a year at least

All servicing done by main dealers of course, little wonder it costs so much.

BaronVon

I heard they've purchased 40 Hyundai's, not sure which model. Apparently they're not mad about them, but they were the lowest tender, so naturally they were bought!

In better news, I also heard they've made an agreement with Skoda to get in some Octavia's, not sure of the engine sizes, but I'd imagine the VRS models would be too much to hope for!

Old diesel

infacteh wrote: »

I heard they've purchased 40 Hyundai's, not sure which model. Apparently they're not mad about them, but they were the lowest tender, so naturally they were bought!

In better news, I also heard they've made an agreement with Skoda to get in some Octavia's, not sure of the engine sizes, but I'd imagine the VRS models would be too much to hope for!

If the main deal is (still) with Ford - nothing stopping them from getting in some of the new police spec Focus ST estate - that Ford were promoting in the Uk last year.

Personally given the way Ireland normally does business - I have visions of the Gardaí getting in Hyundais at a price that's dearer then what the Uk police would pay for a BMW.

Mind you i am probably showing too little faith in the Irish state system and being too negative in my assumptions lol.

What i have heard though through a Uk car forum is that the Uk police apparently do very good deals on the likes of BMWs - and that's why they are able to justify BMWs on the basis of overall package etc.

Suppose its too much to expect the same level of logic over here

kub

Am I correct in assuming that AGS/Dept Of Justice have to pay VRT and Vat on new patrol cars?

That is ridiculous considering they are paying tax payers money out, then paying tax on that tax money.

Also what is the point in taxing Garda cars, again another waste of time and money.

Capri

kub wrote: »

Am I correct in assuming that AGS/Dept Of Justice have to pay VRT and Vat on new patrol cars?

That is ridiculous considering they are paying tax payers money out, then paying tax on that tax money.

Also what is the point in taxing Garda cars, again another waste of time and money.

I wouldn't imagine they do - where'd be the logic in that As for tax, look at the wording on the disc - EXEMPT ( Tho the Army don't have tax discs anymore, prevents theft of same

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/garda-who-could-barely-pay-for-food-stole-tax-disc-from-boss-29622803.html

......Judge Hugh O'Donnell heard that the tax disc was meant for an official garda motorcycle... He took the disc from his sergeant's office when the tax ran out on his own car....

Mr Simpson

As far as I'm aware VRT is paid, tax is exempt as above though

goldie fish

Mr Simpson wrote: »

As far as I'm aware VRT is paid, tax is exempt as above though

VRT and VAT is paid.

Mr Simpson

goldie fish wrote: »

VRT and VAT is paid.

Thats what I thought. Really clever thinking isn't it!

EireGun

infacteh wrote: »

I heard they've purchased 40 Hyundai's, not sure which model. Apparently they're not mad about them, but they were the lowest tender, so naturally they were bought!

In better news, I also heard they've made an agreement with Skoda to get in some Octavia's, not sure of the engine sizes, but I'd imagine the VRS models would be too much to hope for!

Interesting. The Toyota Land Cruisers (Prado) must be well over the 300,000km mark (whether or not they're subject to it?), they were bought in 2006 and 2007 and have serviced the Traffic Corps, Water/Mounted/K9 Units and a number of Detective units, so maybe there is some Hyundai Santa Fe SUVs? They are certainly not better than the Land Crusier if that's the case, but the Hyundai saloon and estate cars are not too bad to be honest, although dependent on which model they've opted for. A couple of unmarked Hyundai's would be welcome, though, considering the amount of unmarked cars being marked up!

The Skoda deal sounds much more promising. The Octavia's are solid cars, I used to own one myself, and with the Volkswagen engine it gives great mileage and little hassle. Can't help thinking the Gardai - or at least the Traffic Corps - require the high performance RS or vRS models, instead of bog standard family wagons.

This was spotted in Lucan, Dublin exactly one year ago...

POGAN

EireGun wrote: »

Interesting. The Toyota Land Cruisers (Prado) must be well over the 300,000km mark (whether or not they're subject to it?), they were bought in 2006 and 2007 and have serviced the Traffic Corps, Water/Mounted/K9 Units and a number of Detective units, so maybe there is some Hyundai Santa Fe SUVs? They are certainly not better than the Land Crusier if that's the case, but the Hyundai saloon and estate cars are not too bad to be honest, although dependent on which model they've opted for. A couple of unmarked Hyundai's would be welcome, though, considering the amount of unmarked cars being marked up!

The Skoda deal sounds much more promising. The Octavia's are solid cars, I used to own one myself, and with the Volkswagen engine it gives great mileage and little hassle. Can't help thinking the Gardai - or at least the Traffic Corps - require the high performance RS or vRS models, instead of bog standard family wagons.

This was spotted in Lucan, Dublin exactly one year ago...

Land cruiser go to 500,000km

D Trent

Is that a PSNI skoda superb estate? how are they allowed drive that on the M50/M4 in Dublin?

Mister Jingles

D Trent wrote: »

Is that a PSNI skoda superb estate? how are they allowed dive that on the M50/M4 in Dublin?

Nope, or well that reg is from across the sea anyway so I doubt it.

EireGun

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Nope, or well that reg is from across the sea anyway so I doubt it.

I think Gardai were actually driving it as a trial, supposedly it's plates were changed, but obviously not in this picture.

Terrontress

infacteh wrote: »

I heard they've purchased 40 Hyundai's, not sure which model. Apparently they're not mad about them, but they were the lowest tender, so naturally they were bought!

In better news, I also heard they've made an agreement with Skoda to get in some Octavia's, not sure of the engine sizes, but I'd imagine the VRS models would be too much to hope for!

In London the Met Police have been using Hyundai i30s for a couple of years and have recently bought new ones. It must be suitable for police work. Other cars the Met have recently bought are BMW x5.