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Old diesel

Terrontress wrote: »

I have to say, I am very uncomfortable with Gardai claiming personal injury compensation off people for what happens while on duty.

Sorry but I have to say - I think its right and proper that if a garda gets injured when on duty - they get compensated for it.

Personally I don't really care whose doing the paying out of the compensation - whether its the state or an insurance company or a combination of the 2.

Theres a lot of things in this country im not very comfy with or indeed happy with - but compensating Gardaí for injuries suffered while on duty is not one of them.

Anytime I ever heard of a garda getting compensation for being injured - its genuinely justified.

Terrontress

Old diesel wrote: »

Sorry but I have to say - I think its right and proper that if a garda gets injured when on duty - they get compensated for it.

Personally I don't really care whose doing the paying out of the compensation - whether its the state or an insurance company or a combination of the 2.

Theres a lot of things in this country im not very comfy with or indeed happy with - but compensating Gardaí for injuries suffered while on duty is not one of them.

Anytime I ever heard of a garda getting compensation for being injured - its genuinely justified.

I don't disagree that they should be compensated but they should not be taking actions individually.

pa990

Old diesel wrote: »

Sorry but I have to say - I think its right and proper that if a garda gets injured when on duty - they get compensated for it.

Personally I don't really care whose doing the paying out of the compensation - whether its the state or an insurance company or a combination of the 2.

Theres a lot of things in this country im not very comfy with or indeed happy with - but compensating Gardaí for injuries suffered while on duty is not one of them.

Anytime I ever heard of a garda getting compensation for being injured - its genuinely justified.

So... if an builder on a building site is injured due to the guy building the scaffold doing a bad job, its tough titty

Going by your reasoning !

pa990

Terrontress wrote: »

I don't disagree that they should be compensated but they should not be taking actions individually.

Well their employer (AGS) isn't going to take any action on their behalf.

So should the individual garda just sit back and wait for the employer to so something/nothing

Turner

Vehicle Gallery discussion thread!

back to vehicles please.

goldie fish

lighterman wrote: »

Out of interest why would you claim for being spat at. Genuine question

The risk of contracting hepatitis through bodily fluids from an infected person is exceptionally high. A typical attack of this nature is when a hep-b infected person spits their own blood at a member of AGS. What follows is months of stressful medical tests for the member.

3fullback

Re. airport jeep !

Anyone explain the jurisdiction of ap v AGS ??

EireGun

3fullback wrote: »

Re. airport jeep !

Anyone explain the jurisdiction of ap v AGS ??

Members of the Airport Police Service have the powers to:

- Stop and search (this includes persons, their property, vehicles, aircraft and cargo in an airport).
- Demand a person's biographical details, evidence of ones identity and other relevant information.
- Detain persons (for such time as is reasonably necessary for the exercise of any of his/her powers under Section 33 Air Navigations & Transport Act 1988)
- Remove person's/Issue person's banning orders (these are usually issued in cases of Anti-Social Behaviour) to temporarily prohibit a person's re-entry to the airport.
- Arrest a person on the minister's land—this includes passenger terminals, cargo areas, car parks,on board aircraft, runways, radar sites or on any air navigation installation—this also includes any other roadways, land or property owned, leased or operated by the Dublin Airport Authority or Minister for Transport, even if it is located outside of an airport's security perimeter fence.

Other powers of enforcement conferred upon them, such as those detailed within the Airport Byelaws. Members of the APS are defined as "competent persons" employed by a Public Authority under Section 18 of Criminal Justice Act 2006 for the purpose of taking & receiving witness statements in the course of their duties.

Under Section 33 of the Air Navigation and Transport Act 1988 (as amended by the Air Navigation and Transport Act 1998, they can arrest persons in connection with offences under that Act or other legislation. It is an offence to obstruct, impede, assault or impersonate an Authorised Officer (Each warranted member of the police service is classed as an Authorised Officer under law.)

Each year, Officers of the force effect several hundred arrests for a wide variety of offences, including assault, theft, fraud and breach of the public order. Members of the Airport Police are required to transfer custody of their prisoners over to the Garda Síochána to be prosecuted by the Director of Public Prosecutions.

Offences committed under the Airports Byelaws detected by the Airport Police can be dealt with by way of reporting for summons to the District court to initiate a prosecution on behalf of the Airport Authority, or by the issue of a fixed penalty notice.

The APS will respond & initially investigate all reports of criminal offences under the Airports and Aviation Acts 1936 to 2004, Airport bye laws and other legislation within the Airport. Offences deemed as serious or those beyond the capability or capacity of its limited size that are committed within the Airport, such as acts of terrorism, murder, manslaughter, rape, facilitation of illegal immigration or any incident involving the death (suspicious or otherwise) of a person are investigated by the Garda Síochána. However, APS officers will take immediate necessary action prior to the arrival of the Garda Síochána in such cases.

Airport Police operate in Dublin Airport, Cork Airport, and in Shannon Airport, as do An Garda Siochana.

kub

Now that Shannon is no longer part of DAA where do the airport police there stand in this equation?

EireGun

kub wrote: »

Now that Shannon is no longer part of DAA where do the airport police there stand in this equation?

According to Wikipedia...

The APS is established, funded and maintained by the owners of Dublin Airport and Cork Airport, the Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) and in Shannon Airport by the Shannon Airport Authority (SAA), both entities are state owned by the Irish Government.

3fullback

3fullback wrote: »

Re. airport jeep !

Anyone explain the jurisdiction of ap v AGS ??

Take a look back though the pages here. Plenty of 'discussion' on this topic there.

Zambia

Dublin Airport Police K9 Unit
Mitsubishi Pajero 4x4 (3.2 Diesel Engine (200 BHP), Automatic Transmission)

Ah they spelt K9 wrong....

goldie fish

Why has it no amber beacon?

Old diesel

pa990 wrote: »

So... if an builder on a building site is injured due to the guy building the scaffold doing a bad job, its tough titty

Going by your reasoning !

My point is that people should be compensated - its just that I don't care whose doing the actual paying - once someone does actually caugh up the compensation.

Sorry for the off topic - but I just couldn't let the above post go without further clarification.

Sorry chaps

Old diesel

Back on topic

That Pajero looks like a fine piece of kit.

Always good to see something new being tried out - and the silver looks well with the Battenberg.

Hope it does the business for the airport police

lighterman

goldie fish wrote: »

The risk of contracting hepatitis through bodily fluids from an infected person is exceptionally high. A typical attack of this nature is when a hep-b infected person spits their own blood at a member of AGS. What follows is months of stressful medical tests for the member.

I'm well aware as indicted in an earlier post

lighterman wrote: »

No they shouldnt as yes as you stated it is assault but neither do i expect it as a security guard.

Maybe you should talk to the guards who advised me and talked me out of pressing charges against a man with Hepatitis C who spat in my face which got in to my mouth.I was told it wouldnt be worth it as it was only a i believe told a section 3 assault and wouldnt be worth the time bringing him to court.

I asked would the fact he knowingly had Hep C and the fact i had to do the 3 month tests to get the all clear which i did and i was told no.

So is it a different law for guards and the general public.

(Careful stepping down off that horse)

source

goldie fish wrote: »

Why has it no amber beacon?

Built into the light bar?

goldie fish

source wrote: »

Built into the light bar?

Not good enough airside. needs to be visible from 360 degrees. LED Lightbar is only visible front or rear.

sgthighway

Why would they need a 4x4 in an Airport?

donvito99

sgthighway wrote: »

Why would they need a 4x4 in an Airport?

There's plenty of grass at the airport.

jamesr123

sgthighway wrote: »

Why would they need a 4x4 in an Airport?

Snow.....?


I reckon those jeeps would better suit gardai

POGAN

jamesr123 wrote: »

Snow.....?


I reckon those jeeps would better suit gardai

The dog unit has one. prefer land cruisers but never happen now

jamesr123

POGAN wrote: »

The dog unit has one. prefer land cruisers but never happen now

Ye, Those land cruisers are a great bus alright.. I'd say they'd protect you in any kind of a crash aswell

Mycroft H

goldie fish wrote: »

Why has it no amber beacon?

Looks like the beacon we've on some OMAC jeeps. There is blues built into the sides of it, I'd imagine there is ambers on the airports one, they know what they're doing ...

Capri

sgthighway wrote: »

Why would they need a 4x4 in an Airport?

Chasing intruders inside the perimiter fence ,runway incursions :eek: http://news.aviation-safety.net/2010/03/04/dublin-airport-serious-runway-incursion-by-grass-mower/ crossing runways and grassy areas, SNOW/ICE -

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/snow-closes-dublin-airport-disrupts-bus-and-luas-483985.html

Met Eireann is warning that the sub-zero weather will continue up to next Wednesday.

Flight operations at Dublin Airport have been suspended.

The Dublin Airport Authority said it currently has crews working to clear snow from the main runway

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Zambia

sgthighway wrote: »

Why would they need a 4x4 in an Airport?

Bitches love jeeps

Old diesel

Old diesel wrote: »

Back on topic

That Pajero looks like a fine piece of kit.

Always good to see something new being tried out - and the silver looks well with the Battenberg.

Hope it does the business for the airport police

Met Police have been using them for years.

D Trent

Garda Dog Unit's Pajero

timmywex

D Trent wrote: »

Garda Dog Unit's Pajero

Why doesnt this have blues?

Saw it on O'Connell street recently not knowing it was dog unit and thought it looked awful bizzare

Mr Simpson

timmywex wrote: »

Why doesnt this have blues?

Saw it on O'Connell street recently not knowing it was dog unit and thought it looked awful bizzare

It does, just not a roof lightbar. Has a dashlight, grille and other blues

POGAN

timmywex wrote: »

Why doesnt this have blues?

Saw it on O'Connell street recently not knowing it was dog unit and thought it looked awful bizzare

Cost cutting I was told doesn't need light bar tho

D Trent

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hundreds-of-new-cars-for-gardai-29716268.html

donvito99

Later, the Department of Justice said that all the new Ford and Hyundai cars being bought for the Garda fleet would either be saloon or estate vehicles

Does this rule out Santa Feis or is it confused journalism?

D Trent

donvito99 wrote: »

Does this rule out Santa Feis or is it confused journalism?

I would imagine Garda management would opt for Toyota Landcruiser or Isuzu D-Max, possible even Kia Sorento if a need for 4x4 vehicles in the fleet arose as they have done in the past.

jamesr123

D Trent wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hundreds-of-new-cars-for-gardai-29716268.html

pretty decent investment to be fair.

EireGun

D Trent wrote: »

I would imagine Garda management would opt for Toyota Landcruiser or Isuzu D-Max, possible even Kia Sorento if a need for 4x4 vehicles in the fleet arose as they have done in the past.

Couldn't rule out the Mitsubishi Pajero? Better suited than the Hyundai or Kia, and up there with the Isuzu - although it's a pick-up. Land Cruiser still tops for me though.

POGAN

EireGun wrote: »

Couldn't rule out the Mitsubishi Pajero? Better suited than the Hyundai or Kia, and up there with the Isuzu - although it's a pick-up. Land Cruiser still tops for me though.

Hyundai sant fei are coming in the order

Capri

POGAN wrote: »

Hyundai sant fei are coming in the order

http://www.ukemergency.co.uk/photo/p1240206.jpg


http://globalpr.hyundai.com/imagefile/prCenter/imageM/news1861.jpg


http://globalpr.hyundai.com/prCenter/news/newsView.do?dID=1804


If the price is right :rolleyes:

pa990

Are those female officers allowed drive that Barabus ?

Capri

Capri wrote: »

http://www.ukemergency.co.uk/photo/p1240206.jpg


http://globalpr.hyundai.com/imagefile/prCenter/imageM/news1861.jpg


http://globalpr.hyundai.com/prCenter/news/newsView.do?dID=1804


If the price is right :rolleyes:

I see the new Santa Fe Winning Auto Express' Best Large SUV of 2013

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/hyundai/santa-fe

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/hyundai/santa-fe#ixzz2jzU1Zgzh

Capri

Gang takes powerful €135,000 BMW at gunpoint

Officers fear that the stolen BMW five-series car will be used by a gang in serious crime.

The description of the M5 model, which sells at up to €135,000 for new vehicles, has been circulated to all garda districts nationwide.




http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gang-takes-powerful-135000-bmw-at-gunpoint-29756393.html

Interesting times ahead for someone :rolleyes:

POGAN

Capri wrote: »

Interesting times ahead for someone :rolleyes:

Nothing will be able to catch it in straight line alpha seria will have trouble keeping up with it if it has a good driver

Mister Jingles

POGAN wrote: »

Nothing will be able to catch it in straight line alpha seria will have trouble keeping up with it if it has a good driver

And that even before it's in M mode :pac:

CharlieCroker

POGAN wrote: »

Nothing will be able to catch it in straight line alpha seria will have trouble keeping up with it if it has a good driver

ASU will have no problem keeping up. It does 135mph in a straight line and if thats not fast enough they just have to climb to keep it in view.

No doubt it'll be used for jobs at some stage soon though

guil

CharlieCroker wrote: »

ASU will have no problem keeping up. It does 135mph in a straight line and if thats not fast enough they just have to climb to keep it in view.

No doubt it'll be used for jobs at some stage soon though

The m5 has 500hp. I'd guess the xc70 has 250-300 at most.

POGAN

guil wrote: »

The m5 has 500hp. I'd guess the xc70 has 250-300 at most.

Charle is on about the ASU which is air suppor unit, people use the asu for the regional support unit but in the AGS there RSU

guil

POGAN wrote: »

Charle is on about the ASU which is air suppor unit, people use the asu for the regional support unit but in the AGS there RSU

Oh bollox. That's what I get for posting when I'm drinking haha.

Section_4

CharlieCroker wrote: »

ASU will have no problem keeping up. It does 135mph in a straight line and if thats not fast enough they just have to climb to keep it in view.

No doubt it'll be used for jobs at some stage soon though

E90 BMW M5s are electronically limited to 155mph. That electronic limiter can be removed with a very simple electronic rewriting of the cars ECU (BMW dealerships offer this service to their customers, as do most good independent BMW specialists). The theoretical top speed then exceeds 185mph.

For obvious reasons I won't get into what can / cannot keep up with a 155 mph vehicle, let alone a 185mph vehicle.

donvito99

T'would be interesting to see if CAB could establish that a car like this was acquired as a direct result of the proceeds of crime. Then they'd need to catch him.

Christmas present for the Tango boys and girls?

Mr Simpson

donvito99 wrote: »

T'would be interesting to see if CAB could establish that a car like this was acquired as a direct result of the proceeds of crime. Then they'd need to catch him.

Christmas present for the Tango boys and girls?

A stolen car wouldn't be proceeds of crime unfortunately. Anyway, tbh I'd imagine that its already in a shipping container out of the country. Too distinctive to hide here