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Old diesel

POGAN wrote: »

AGS are blamed in newspapers & gay Byrne blame members all the time with all the money in the world, cant be everywhere that why if you see something always report it.

Cars & resources issue

goes down to money at the end of the day

If Gay Byrne is blaming members for increase of road deaths or other such issues - hes an even bigger muppet then I thought.

Hed be better off making sure hes doing his own job right - I reckon hes achieved very little in the rule as RSA chairman quite frankly.

what a muppet (Gay Byrne)

kub

3fullback wrote: »

Any pic or sign of new cars ? Or them Hyundais !!!! Great last 3 points ! POGAN / eiregun

You will be sick of looking at them soon enough.

POGAN wrote: »

There was couple in before end of year but they will come in like they do all the time they wont all be on the road by end of january for def

they should be all on the the road by sept 2014 then 4 million more than likely be on the road sept 2015 papers and TDs lie

In time for the run up to the local elections no doubt.

Old diesel wrote: »

If Gay Byrne is blaming members for increase of road deaths or other such issues - hes an even bigger muppet then I thought.

Hed be better off making sure hes doing his own job right - I reckon hes achieved very little in the rule as RSA chairman quite frankly.

what a muppet (Gay Byrne)

Gay Byrne is probably a frustrated man now, people in their twenties who probably statistically have most accidents, have no idea who he is.
Time for a new face there I think, someone that these young drivers recognize and respect.

goldie fish

Byrne's comments are being misreported. He laid the blame firmly at the door of garda management, for not putting enough resources on the road.
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/motoring/gay-byrne-blames-garda-cuts-as-road-deaths-rise-29876378.html

D Trent

kub wrote: »

Gay Byrne is probably a frustrated man now, people in their twenties who probably statistically have most accidents, have no idea who he is.
Time for a new face there I think, someone that these young drivers recognize and respect.

Kub I'm on same wave length as you. That someone is Michael Schumacher isn't it right?

Capri

Old diesel wrote: »

Also - why would traffic corps be under fire for the increasing road deaths - cutbacks and general poor approach by officialdom to road safety is to blame there I think.

Traffic corps can only deal with what they can see going on in front of them - they cant deal with some nutcase pulling off a dangerous overtake - a mile behind or ahead of the traffic corps car.


Think one thing that could be done in the line of traffic corps in that regard - is to have decent unmarked cars - preferably stuff that wouldn't normally be associated with Garda cars (Audis etc).

If you enter Audi A6 Avant unmarked police cars or something like that in google - and go into images - youd see some nice unmarked Audis.

Seen a pic of a lovely silver A4 Avant (2010/11 type model) unmarked - it had the lights lit up in the pics but youd never know it was unmarked with lights off.

I only mention Audi as an example - but having unmarked cars could be good - drivers wouldn't know that the car behind them or in front was a Garda car until they are pulled in for driving like a muppet.

Just my two cents as an outsider (apologies)

Is Traffic's Volvo repaired yet after the Dame St incident, that's as unmarked as you can get? Even see new and old Mondeos with very little evidence on the outside and of course the Skoda Superbs / Land Cruisers / Audis BMW's .... There's a lot of stuff available depending on what the powers that be approve - internal politics/requirments

Aside from the 'Speed kills' mantra, I'm sure the Collision Investigation boys would have views on what ACTUALLY caused the accident. Sometimes it can be road surface problems / road markings / signage / people texting /using computer etc etc..... Yes, the majority were probably speeding without a seat belt but we need to move on from just 'Speed kills' and outline exactly what other elements can get you killed.

As for Gaybo - he nearly crashed into me one day so ...:rolleyes: Yesterday's man

POGAN

Capri wrote: »

Is Traffic's Volvo repaired yet after the Dame St incident, that's as unmarked as you can get? Even see new and old Mondeos with very little evidence on the outside and of course the Skoda Superbs / Land Cruisers / Audis BMW's .... There's a lot of stuff available depending on what the powers that be approve - internal politics/requirments

Aside from the 'Speed kills' mantra, I'm sure the Collision Investigation boys would have views on what ACTUALLY caused the accident. Sometimes it can be road surface problems / road markings / signage / people texting /using computer etc etc..... Yes, the majority were probably speeding without a seat belt but we need to move on from just 'Speed kills' and outline exactly what other elements can get you killed.

As for Gaybo - he nearly crashed into me one day so ...:rolleyes: Yesterday's man

It has been repaired

C.S.I

Capri wrote: »

Is Traffic's Volvo repaired yet after the Dame St incident, that's as unmarked as you can get? Even see new and old Mondeos with very little evidence on the outside and of course the Skoda Superbs / Land Cruisers / Audis BMW's .... There's a lot of stuff available depending on what the powers that be approve - internal politics/requirments

Aside from the 'Speed kills' mantra, I'm sure the Collision Investigation boys would have views on what ACTUALLY caused the accident. Sometimes it can be road surface problems / road markings / signage / people texting /using computer etc etc..... Yes, the majority were probably speeding without a seat belt but we need to move on from just 'Speed kills' and outline exactly what other elements can get you killed.

As for Gaybo - he nearly crashed into me one day so ...:rolleyes: Yesterday's man

The new unmarked mondeos/focus are done very well, seen a few 131 mondeos with just grille lights,no dashlight

kub

C.S.I wrote: »

The new unmarked mondeos/focus are done very well, seen a few 131 mondeos with just grille lights,no dashlight

What about the little tetra aerials? The non existing insurance/ nct certs, the D reg without the usual garage reg plate holder?

Capri

C.S.I wrote: »

The new unmarked mondeos/focus are done very well, seen a few 131 mondeos with just grille lights,no dashlight

http://www.whelen.com/auto/product.php?head_id=2&cat_id=9&prod_id=54

This module provides conditioned signals to and from the Police Equipment Interface Module (PEIM) found on All 2012-2013 Dodge Charger Police Vehicles. Including Flashing Headlights and Taillights. For further information, refer to the Police Package Owner’s Manual supplied with the vehicle.

THIS is concealed strobes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqt1HBdGFG8

POGAN

kub wrote: »

What about the little tetra aerials? The non existing insurance/ nct certs, the D reg without the usual garage reg plate holder?

No need for terta Ariel anymore

Capri

kub wrote: »

What about the little tetra aerials? The non existing insurance/ nct certs, the D reg without the usual garage reg plate holder?

There's the triple holder in the windshield that looks the same from 100m, some even have 'insurance' and 'NCT certs' in them - tho' what reg. no's. are on them is anybody's guess :rolleyes:
As for garage surrounds, Finglas Motors Ford seem to be giving them free with every Garda service even if it's not a Ford

donvito99

POGAN wrote: »

No need for terta Ariel anymore

Concealed or better technology or some such sort?

BaronVon

donvito99 wrote: »

Concealed or better technology or some such sort?

It's in the windscreen

TheNog

infacteh wrote: »

It's in the windscreen

Or above the back window or so I believe

TheNog

Capri wrote: »

Aside from the 'Speed kills' mantra, I'm sure the Collision Investigation boys would have views on what ACTUALLY caused the accident. Sometimes it can be road surface problems / road markings / signage / people texting /using computer etc etc..... Yes, the majority were probably speeding without a seat belt but we need to move on from just 'Speed kills' and outline exactly what other elements can get you killed.

I think a lot of people are not getting the correct message when they hear 'speed kills'. I think people think of excessive speed as being over the speed limit which is not entirely true. Excessive speed can be below the posted speed limit but excessive for the road/weather conditions, traffic congestion (be it vehicles or pedestrians etc) and other specific conditions. Hell you can travel around a 45 degree bend well below the speed limit but too fast to take the bend and still kill yourself or someone else.

kub

Capri wrote: »

There's the triple holder in the windshield that looks the same from 100m, some even have 'insurance' and 'NCT certs' in them - tho' what reg. no's. are on them is anybody's guess :rolleyes:
As for garage surrounds, Finglas Motors Ford seem to be giving them free with every Garda service even if it's not a Ford

Well that is excellent, all they need to do now is do as Pogan said and get non standard fleet makes.

C.S.I

kub wrote: »

What about the little tetra aerials? The non existing insurance/ nct certs, the D reg without the usual garage reg plate holder?

There is no tetra aerials on the new cars,and i've seen a few with reg plate surrounds

EireGun

Gardaí foiled an elaborate plan by gunmen to “spring” a violent Limerick criminal from a courthouse in a daring raid, it emerged last night.
The plot involved gunmen using motorbikes carrying out an ambush on prison officers at Limerick Circuit Court. Gardaí received information of the plan and a huge security operation was put in place for the court hearing where the criminal was due to be remanded. More than 20 armed detectives, along with members of the Garda Armed Support Unit, took up positions in and around the courthouse when the criminal was brought to court on the day of the planned escape..

More here... http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/limerick-gardai-foil-daring-raid-by-gunmen-to-spring-criminal-from-court-253001.html

Short video of the prisoner escort here... http://www.limerickpost.ie/2013/12/13/video-limerick-tiger-kidnap-sentencing-case-adjourned-amid-heavy-security/

Idiot/scumbag from the 'Irish Republican Voice' apparently.

goldie fish

EireGun wrote: »

More here... http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/limerick-gardai-foil-daring-raid-by-gunmen-to-spring-criminal-from-court-253001.html

Short video of the prisoner escort here... http://www.limerickpost.ie/2013/12/13/video-limerick-tiger-kidnap-sentencing-case-adjourned-amid-heavy-security/

He is one dangerous SOB. He's been Robbing banks and attacking gardai and escaping from custody since 1995, and when in prison takes great pleasure starting riots.

All in all, the lowest form of life.

eirebread

del

Consy90

Thought this was a vehicle discussion thread?

EireGun

Consy90 wrote: »

Thought this was a vehicle discussion thread?

Short video of the prisoner escort here...
http://www.limerickpost.ie/2013/12/13/video-limerick-tiger-kidnap-sentencing-case-adjourned-amid-heavy-security/

counts, doesn't it?

kub

goldie fish wrote: »

He is one dangerous SOB. He's been Robbing banks and attacking gardai and escaping from custody since 1995, and when in prison takes great pleasure starting riots.

All in all, the lowest form of life.

Sorry for slightly going off topic but, would it not have been easier for the court case to be held in the prison, instead of utilising all of these resources on a toe rag?

BaronVon

kub wrote: »

Sorry for slightly going off topic but, would it not have been easier for the court case to be held in the prison, instead of utilising all of these resources on a toe rag?

You'll never make it in politics or public service management with that kind of logic!

Capri

Old pickup on road today

Even on the bridge Picking up the bits from the Liffey flooding ? Wouldn't say there's much mileage on it

C.S.I

Capri wrote: »

Even on the bridge Picking up the bits from the Liffey flooding ? Wouldn't say there's much mileage on it

Would not think so,looks like its been remarked

Capri

C.S.I wrote: »

Would not think so,looks like its been remarked

Previously used in Fitzgibbon st for Croker crowd barriers, AFIR been marked up since new (07?)

C.S.I

Capri wrote: »

Previously used in Fitzgibbon st for Croker crowd barriers, AFIR been marked up since new (07?)

Look at the garda confidential number,that style came with the 11 avensis,its just the number, no lettering as with the 07 vehicles

kub

Re Cork Traffic Van.

What exactly is it for? Transporting traffic cones?

Or is it more a general purpose van considering it does not have the typical battenburg markings?

Does the rear light bar have red lights at the back of it?

donvito99

kub wrote: »

Does the rear light bar have red lights at the back of it?

They both look to be identical to the general one that came with the Avensis', so they both have rear reds I'd assume.

Does the van have the evidential breath test machine on board?

kub

I am just wondering as well, now that AGS have replaced a few wagons with small Courier vans is this more of a general purpose van?

Obviously Cork would not have the same selection of vehicles compared with Dublin.

POGAN

kub wrote: »

Re Cork Traffic Van.

What exactly is it for? Transporting traffic cones?

Or is it more a general purpose van considering it does not have the typical battenburg markings?

Does the rear light bar have red lights at the back of it?

For commercial vechile stops etc

Cheaper mark it as regular than traffic

Yes it has rear reds

heffomike54

kub wrote: »

Re Cork Traffic Van.

What exactly is it for? Transporting traffic cones?

Or is it more a general purpose van considering it does not have the typical battenburg markings?

Does the rear light bar have red lights at the back of it?

Would this be one of the vans that were bought to be used as mobile Garda stations just redeployed?

POGAN

heffomike54 wrote: »

Would this be one of the vans that were bought to be used as mobile Garda stations just redeployed?

Yes they were bought as mobile stations vans

donvito99

donvito99 wrote: »

They both look to be identical to the general one that came with the Avensis', so they both have rear reds I'd assume.

Does the van have the evidential breath test machine on board?

It wouldn't. Legislation does not allow for roadside testing using that machine even though it's designed to be used that way.

kub

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It wouldn't. Legislation does not allow for roadside testing using that machine even though it's designed to be used that way.

Why am I not surprised by that? I would normally use some select words right now, however with due respect to you all just suffice in saying, isn't the law in this country wonderful?
Just considering the man hours, the station personnel etc. To think that they could have set up a checkpoint, double checked someone's readings then into a wagon and off to a holding cell somewhere if necessary.

Zambia

kub wrote: »

Why am I not surprised by that? I would normally use some select words right now, however with due respect to you all just suffice in saying, isn't the law in this country wonderful?
Just considering the man hours, the station personnel etc. To think that they could have set up a checkpoint, double checked someone's readings then into a wagon and off to a holding cell somewhere if necessary.

So the garda have no portable EBTs?

On a night shift a booze buss could process over 10 offenders road side.

Zambia

Zambia wrote: »

So the garda have no portable EBTs?

On a night shift a booze buss could process over 10 offenders road side.

You can only put someone on the machine if arrested. Alcometers at roadside to aid opinion or MAT Checkpoint.

The evidenzer can fit in a car. Look on their site and there is a pic of one in a rear central arm rest. Gas presumably in the boot.

Zambia

Ah, here you don't have to be arrested. Should refuse a lawful request to provide a sample you are charged with refuse.

The penalty for refuse is higher than exceed pca

goldie fish

The law here is quite complex, and frequently tested in court.

Zambia

goldie fish wrote: »

The law here is quite complex, and frequently tested in court.

Same here people will spend a fortune rather than use the bus

goldie fish

goldie fish wrote: »

The law here is quite complex, and frequently tested* in court.

*abused

Hooch

And the act specifically states that for the demand for an evidential specimen, the demand must take place in a Garda station

Zambia

Hooch wrote: »

And the act specifically states that for the demand for an evidential specimen, the demand must take place in a Garda station

Is there a particular reason for that? Why the need for a station ? Could a booze bus or testing truck come under the definition of a station in the act?

kub

Zambia wrote: »

Is there a particular reason for that? Why the need for a station ? Could a booze bus or testing truck come under the definition of a station in the act?

Well I reckon the reason is straight forward, it is the fact that this is The Republic Of Ireland, where the law is more on the side of the wrong do-er rather than the innocent or those trying to police it.

goldie fish

Yeah, you don't want to be making it easy to prosecute people, lest the crustys start shouting "police state".

Zambia

Zambia wrote: »

Is there a particular reason for that? Why the need for a station ? Could a booze bus or testing truck come under the definition of a station in the act?

Guess it's more to do with the custody regulations and the legislation surrounding that.

carzony

I'v seen that corolla in Clondalkin a few times. Clean car for what it is...

Capri

carzony wrote: »

I'v seen that corolla in Clondalkin a few times. Clean car for what it is...

I saw a 04/07 red Focus on the southside - VERY shiny, might be entrusted to whoever had the shiny red Mondeo Zetec S that I haven't seen in an age. Evidently SOME take care of their motors more than others

carzony

Capri wrote: »

I saw a 04/07 red Focus on the southside - VERY shiny, might be entrusted to whoever had the shiny red Mondeo Zetec S that I haven't seen in an age. Evidently SOME take care of their motors more than others

I'v seen plenty of 02 unmarked focuses still flying about the place.. I find it strange how a car of that age hasnt reached the milage limit. I mean well over ten years of driving..