Vehicle Gallery - Discussion Thread

kub

bravestar wrote: »

No, pity that the regular units, who are the ones in 99.9% of chases, didn't have a car to catch up with him.

All i meant was that i assumed that TC had better cars than regulars for pursuits.

Just consider all those traffic violations, there must have been half a dozen penalty points in that pot.

bravestar

kub wrote: »

All i meant was that i assumed that TC had better cars than regulars for pursuits.

Just consider all those traffic violations, there must have been half a dozen penalty points in that pot.

Haha I know what you meant mate, but traffic having better cars is kind of my point. It's the regular that are in pursuits everyday, they are the ones who need the better cars

kub

bravestar wrote: »

Haha I know what you meant mate, but traffic having better cars is kind of my point. It's the regular that are in pursuits everyday, they are the ones who need the better cars

I agree with you, it is a farce. Here we are now in a situation where Gardai are making do with Hyundai cars. I do not know much about them, but would have at least thought that Ford were a better make. Even with that regulars should be driving cars with a least a 2.5l engine not standard family saloons.

D Trent

kub wrote: »

All i meant was that i assumed that TC had better cars than regulars for pursuits.

Just consider all those traffic violations, there must have been half a dozen penalty points in that pot.

You can't dish out penalty points to a disqual driver or a minor.

I bet the driver of that Supra was one of the above

kub

D Trent wrote: »

You can't dish out penalty points to a disqual driver or a minor.

I bet the driver of that Supra was one of the above

Why is their always a bloody excuse in the way laws are drafted in this country?
Should just be if disqualified, then these points go on their licence when ever they get back on the road legally. Same with the Minor when they apply for their first licence.

donvito99

http://www.psni.police.uk/psni_fleet-2.pdf

Came across this list which I found interesting - these are all marked vehicles by the way.

It's like Johnston's Paint Trophy v. Premier League...!

BaronVon

donvito99 wrote: »

http://www.psni.police.uk/psni_fleet-2.pdf

Came across this list which I found interesting - these are all marked vehicles by the way.

It's like Johnston's Paint Trophy v. Premier League...!

It's more like porn!

Markcheese

I haven't got an attitude about Hyundai or anything, and probably for most police work 1.6 is more than grand ...
But to expect that to be a pursuit car and for 400,000 km (or whatever) ?
Right tool for the job , if traffic need bigger cars /engines to do the job it'd probably be more cost effective to get 'em. Would have thought an overambitious upper milage limit is false economy as well.

Old diesel

Markcheese wrote: »

I haven't got an attitude about Hyundai or anything, and probably for most police work 1.6 is more than grand ...
But to expect that to be a pursuit car and for 400,000 km (or whatever) ?
Right tool for the job , if traffic need bigger cars /engines to do the job it'd probably be more cost effective to get 'em. Would have thought an overambitious upper milage limit is false economy as well.

The overambitious mileage limit id say is to do with been able to keep cars on the road - it seems to look bad in the eyes of politicians if cars are having to come off the road at 300,000 kms simply down to mileage.

The problem I see however is that 300,000 miles is still something like 187,000 miles - which frankly - I think is enough for a police car.

Any clown in an office that thinks keeping cars on the road until 400,000 kms - ive a cure for that.

They should be told - keep their own PRIVATE CAR on the road for 400,000 kms - :mad::mad::mad::mad: - wouldn't look such a good idea then

Also need a way to stamp out nonsense like okay - Hyundai i40 at 350,000 Kms - getting big repairs done - to make it last the extra 50,000 kms - just to keep a car on the road - and instead put the repair cost towards the replacement car - this is what happens in the real world - and I bet that's what the people who think 400 k kms mileage is a good idea - do with THEIR OWN CARS.

The traffic thing - well I think what needs to happen - is for AGS Mgt to work out what is the future direction for traffic corps - and when we have that worked out - we can then work out the capability levels we need for both the vehicles and the traffic corps members.

Boaty

Should see the police cars going around London, wrong side of the road, going through red lights. Bloody dangerous
They want to use all of their horsepower.
Plenty of high powered x5's

CharlieCroker

A 1.6 Hyundai or Focus will do the same here if the seriousness of the call warrants such a response.

Boaty

Boaty wrote: »

Should see the police cars going around London, wrong side of the road, going through red lights. Bloody dangerous
They want to use all of their horsepower.
Plenty of high powered x5's

How dare trained drivers respond to emergency calls. Maybe they should use the 24hr public transport to respond to calls.

Capri

foreign wrote: »

How dare trained drivers respond to emergency calls. Maybe they should use the 24hr public transport to respond to calls.

' trained drivers ' is the operative word, how well do our ' trained drivers ' compare with the UK forces, or are we back to 'Chief's permission' here with the cutbacks :o

carzony

Those estate mondeo's are rare enough now and there must be a handful of those unmarked fiats.. Great if you want to remain 'discreet'.

Capri

Capri wrote: »

' trained drivers ' is the operative word, how well do our ' trained drivers ' compare with the UK forces, or are we back to 'Chief's permission' here with the cutbacks :o

Our training would be on par. Chiefs being phased out. Driving courses running all the time.

POGAN

carzony wrote: »

Those estate mondeo's are rare enough now and there must be a handful of those unmarked fiats.. Great if you want to remain 'discreet'.

If your only thing trying to chase something no hope at all, They are awful cars end up in garage so much. Hopefully few i40s will start Corning in

carzony

POGAN wrote: »

If your only thing trying to chase something no hope at all, They are awful cars end up in garage so much. Hopefully few i40s will start Corning in

I assume your talking about the fiats? as I hear the mondoes are fairly bullet proof.

I suppose the age of them is to blame aswell. 2006 so they'd be 8 years old now :o

I think the i40's are great looking. It's great seeing the garda driving something different.. Go down the court house anyday of the week and it's like a ford appreciation club or something :p

source

carzony wrote: »

I assume your talking about the fiats? as I hear the mondoes are fairly bullet proof.

I suppose the age of them is to blame aswell. 2006 so they'd be 8 years old now :o

I think the i40's are great looking. It's great seeing the garda driving something different.. Go down the court house anyday of the week and it's like a ford appreciation club or something :p

The reason for the Ford appreciation club as you put it is in the first sentence if your post.

carzony

carzony wrote: »

I think the i40's are great looking. It's great seeing the garda driving something different..

Yep, because our first priority is driving something that looks good, not something safe, reliable and up to the job. Keep buying us the cars that look good as the criminals leave us for dust.

jamesr123

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POGAN

foreign wrote: »

Yep, because our first priority is driving something that looks good, not something safe, reliable and up to the job. Keep buying us the cars that look good as the criminals leave us for dust.

BMW dream will never happen but we can have memories

donvito99

POGAN wrote: »

BMW dream will never happen but we can have memories

Never knew that there was also an X5 in addition to the tourer (was it ever in service?).

POGAN

donvito99 wrote: »

Never knew that there was also an X5 in addition to the tourer (was it ever in service?).

Sent back after the demo... Only marked BMW x5 is the seized one it's 05 but bullet resident

ratracer

Just watching the Giro on Eurosport atm, the PSNI fleet of BMW motorbikes and Land Rover Discovery's look very well. When they hand over to AGS at the border on Sunday will there be any decent escort vehicles or will it be a procession of i30's and dullsville motorcycles beamed across the world on TV?

kub

And a few Transit Connects.

donvito99

Bright red 07 Focus with one of four original hubcaps and severed tetra aerial.

carzony

donvito99 wrote: »

Bright red 07 Focus with one of four original hubcaps and severed tetra aerial.

???

Mister Jingles

carzony wrote: »

???

Sarcasm it would appear

bravestar

Re:means of escape post, rubbish removal.

The residents don't pay, they dump all their rubbish out for the kids to burn. The council then need a garda escort to remove it so they don't come under attack.

Zambia

bravestar wrote: »

Re:means of escape post, rubbish removal.

The residents don't pay, they dump all their rubbish out for the kids to burn. The council then need a garda escort to remove it so they don't come under attack.

Awesome reflection on an area.

RandomAccess

Saw one of the ARU volvos got smashed up, will be expensive to repair I guess.

bravestar

Zambia wrote: »

Awesome reflection on an area.

Sad but true.

kub

RandomAccess wrote: »

Saw one of the ARU volvos got smashed up, will be expensive to repair I guess.

Where and when? A 08 i assume, is it really worth repairing it, financially speaking?

D Trent

Is this the one you saw?
If so it happend 3yrs ago in cork

3fullback

What ever happened there ?

kub

3fullback wrote: »

What ever happened there ?

Both were rushing to an assistance call in Mahon, one was on the South Link Road the other was on the Boreenmanna Road, one had a red light the other a green, we will never know which though.

RandomAccess

kub wrote: »

Where and when? A 08 i assume, is it really worth repairing it, financially speaking?

Today at the Garda Garage.
Its not as badly smashed up as the one in the picture.

That crash in Cork was massive, never heard about that.

fiverfriday

Capri's post in main picture thread #1663:

You sure those pictures aren't mules personal cars? I'd suggest you get the reg plates fully covered.

kub

RandomAccess wrote: »

Today at the Garda Garage.
Its not as badly smashed up as the one in the picture.

That crash in Cork was massive, never heard about that.

They were both written off, the BMW jeep replaced that Volvo

Old diesel

fiverfriday wrote: »

Capri's post in main picture thread #1663:

You sure those pictures aren't mules personal cars? I'd suggest you get the reg plates fully covered.

One of them COULD BE an unmarked (superbly done if so)

But the 2 in the other pic - id say they are privately owned cars for sure

medic112

" Saw one of the ARU volvos got smashed up, will be expensive to repair I guess. "

i attended one involved in a RTC back in feb/mar in the midlands, possibly it?

Boaty

Capri's post is a perfect example of why reg plates should be blocked out in this fourm.
That Volvo is a personal vehicle.
My thread requesting that a rule be added to the fourm charter to stop people posting unmarked Garda cars regs and car like that was declined as "it was not needed" this is a perfect example of why it is needed.

Edit: after looking at the other pic that Capri posted, it really does piss me off that he is posting pictures of personal cars of Gardai in the picture gallery for Emergency vehicles

Turner

I have addressed that post, always feel free to report pictures that you believe should not be posted here.

Turner

Capri

fiverfriday wrote: »

Capri's post in main picture thread #1663:

You sure those pictures aren't mules personal cars? I'd suggest you get the reg plates fully covered.

The context was in relation to AGS not having sporty cars in the fleet -

1) The Lotus (and the Volvo) IS parked in a space marked 'OFFICIAL GARDA VEHICLES' so one must assume it is such :cool:

2 It has no front reg plate so the point of blocking out the plate doesn't arise

3) IF it was a member's private vehicle then he's not trying to hide it discreetly anyway is he


Presume posting these sporty police cars comes within the terms of the
thread

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/86952/incredible-dubai-police-cars?_mout=1&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

Old diesel

Capri wrote: »

The context was in relation to AGS not having sporty cars in the fleet -

1) The Lotus (and the Volvo) IS parked in a space marked 'OFFICIAL GARDA VEHICLES' so one must assume it is such :cool:

2 It has no front reg plate so the point of blocking out the plate doesn't arise

3) IF it was a member's private vehicle then he's not trying to hide it discreetly anyway is he


Presume posting these sporty police cars comes within the terms of the
thread

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/86952/incredible-dubai-police-cars?_mout=1&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

The cars don't even have to be "sporty" - just very very capable for the work they do.

A 2.2 diesel Mondeo Estate ISN'T sporty in the normal sense of the word - but it is (probably) a much more capable car then a 1.7 diesel Hyundai - IN THE RIGHT properly trained hands

The Hyundai probably has its place - but as part of an operational fleet of police cars - you need to look at what you need in terms of capability from the fleet.

So having Hyundais make up a part of the fleet is fine if they are used for roles they are capable of doing.

But if you insist on the whole fleet been made up of one manufacturer then it makes sense to pick a manufacturer that can meet the operational requirements of ALL the operational roles of that fleet.

Well okay - theres different makes on the fleet - but it seems an order goes in for x amount of cars in one go - and you then have to make do with whatever comes from that order for that year etc.

Rather then say - okay - we need cars for community policing, cars for traffic and cars for armed response.

You should have 3 SEPERATE ORDERS for all 3 roles because the cars will be different - for all 3 roles

POGAN

Old diesel wrote: »

The cars don't even have to be "sporty" - just very very capable for the work they do.

A 2.2 diesel Mondeo Estate ISN'T sporty in the normal sense of the word - but it is (probably) a much more capable car then a 1.7 diesel Hyundai - IN THE RIGHT properly trained hands

The Hyundai probably has its place - but as part of an operational fleet of police cars - you need to look at what you need in terms of capability from the fleet.

So having Hyundais make up a part of the fleet is fine if they are used for roles they are capable of doing.

But if you insist on the whole fleet been made up of one manufacturer then it makes sense to pick a manufacturer that can meet the operational requirements of ALL the operational roles of that fleet.

Well okay - theres different makes on the fleet - but it seems an order goes in for x amount of cars in one go - and you then have to make do with whatever comes from that order for that year etc.

Rather then say - okay - we need cars for community policing, cars for traffic and cars for armed response.

You should have 3 SEPERATE ORDERS for all 3 roles because the cars will be different - for all 3 roles

Hopefully skoda rumours from last year is true for RSU

Let's hope there will be more 2.2 traffic mondeos & i40s this year for traffic

Still think the regular need more than connect van or i30 tourer. Fact that 99.9% of calls are answered by them,I do think there need for bit of refocus on numbers of cars in stations

Hope the review will look at this

Old diesel

POGAN wrote: »

Hopefully skoda rumours from last year is true for RSU

Let's hope there will be more 2.2 traffic mondeos & i40s this year for traffic

Still think the regular need more than connect van or i30 tourer. Fact that 99.9% of calls are answered by them,I do think there need for bit of refocus on numbers of cars in stations

Hope the review will look at this

Do you think i40s would be powerful enough????

Would be good to see VAG products get a foothold - no VAG products aren't perfect no more then other makes of car.

But the advantage of VW/Audi/Skoda - is that you have vehicles to meet most requirements.

You work out what you need a vehicle to do - and they almost certainly have something to suit.

A Golf (for example) can come in anything from a 1.6 tdi right up to the high performance Gti models - or you can have Octavias too - VRS might be a useful tool

Or you can have an Audi with Quattro.

And then you've got Passats too - they've a reputation for been very capable cars normally - how that translates to emergency use I don't know

One thing they don't have is a proper Landcruiser rival (imo) but the solution to that - buy in Landcruisers for roles needing a proper 4 x 4 vehicle

Theanswers

Land Rover make a big push in the UK. Perhaps something similar could happen here?

Discovery would be a nice policing vehicle for certain jobs, like the land cruiser.

Old diesel

Theanswers wrote: »

Land Rover make a big push in the UK. Perhaps something similar could happen here?

Discovery would be a nice policing vehicle for certain jobs, like the land cruiser.

Landcruiser would be more reliable then Land Rover imo - plus - its a handy way of giving Toyota an order if you insist on keeping the door open to all the traditional garda car makes

In saying that though - an Evoque should be a VERY capable CAR - they've a reputation for good handling etc - the big issue is price - and has Land Rover addressed its traditional reliability issues on the Evoque

POGAN

Theanswers wrote: »

Land Rover make a big push in the UK. Perhaps something similar could happen here?

Discovery would be a nice policing vehicle for certain jobs, like the land cruiser.

Please God No...they be in garage more than toyotas