Vehicle Gallery - Discussion Thread

Well seen as ye guys don't seem to mind, I've thrown another two in the thread. Think there's only another 2-3 to come after that, though.


EDIT: I appreciate the positive feedback, too, by the way. Thanks!

kub

As from the picture threads https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/407190/224416.jpg

I for one think this may be a good idea, just consider the advantages, throw the drunk into the back into a box, if he vomits, hose it out afterwards.
Also I am sure these vans are cheaper than cars, so more vehicles for less money. Also I reckon the van would probably go as quick as a patrol car anyway considering they probably have the same engines.

source

kub wrote: »

As from the picture threads https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/407190/224416.jpg

I for one think this may be a good idea, just consider the advantages, throw the drunk into the back into a box, if he vomits, hose it out afterwards.
Also I am sure these vans are cheaper than cars, so more vehicles for less money. Also I reckon the van would probably go as quick as a patrol car anyway considering they probably have the same engines.

I've been saying AGS should get vans like this for years. Massive step in the right direction. Transits are to big and sluggish for policing, this is the perfect middle ground for prisoner transport/patrol.

An Udaras

The Airport Police Service stationed in Dublin have been using the Ford Transit Connects since 2008. Senior Gardai from the Transport Section in the depot have in the past been giving a demonstration of the Connects that are in police use.

The APS have both general purpose & prisioner containment models in its fleet.

I believe the Gardai where impressed by them.


Ford transit Dublin airport police by Nick 999, on Flickr

Zambia

You mean this



This is the Divisional Van ("The Divvie") each station will have at least one accompanied by Standard cars etc.

The system works very well.

kub

kub wrote: »

As from the picture threads https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/407190/224416.jpg

I for one think this may be a good idea, just consider the advantages, throw the drunk into the back into a box, if he vomits, hose it out afterwards.
Also I am sure these vans are cheaper than cars, so more vehicles for less money. Also I reckon the van would probably go as quick as a patrol car anyway considering they probably have the same engines.

Might be as quick but won't handle the same. Which is a pity as stations will get these as their only car.

Also, Finglas got one on trial earlier this year so it obviously went well.

They seem like a good idea, but I don't think I'd be in favour of them replacing normal cars. I think there's a lot to be said for having a normal 4 door saloon as a significant part of your fleet.

I do think these would be good to replace the prisoner vans that are used, but the issue there, unfortunately, would be that I'd imagine these don't like quite as intimidating as the larger Transit vans. This looks a lot like the CSI vans that AGS use.

kub

foreign wrote: »

Also, Finglas got one on trial earlier this year so it obviously went well.

Why did they need to put one on trial? They already have dozens of them on the fleet, granted not as patrol vehicles but certainly as forensic and traffic corp cone vans.

So its not as if they were new to them.

Mr Simpson

Handling etc, would be completely changed because of the prisoner cage in the back, I'd imagine thats why they had to trial them.

kub

kub wrote: »

Why did they need to put one on trial? They already have dozens of them on the fleet, granted not as patrol vehicles but certainly as forensic and traffic corp cone vans.

So its not as if they were new to them.

No Connects in the fleet before this year that I've seen. SOC and Traffic vans were Citroen Berlingos.

Mr Simpson

I think there were a couple of dog vans, I've definitely seen 1 or 2 before.

kub

foreign wrote: »

No Connects in the fleet before this year that I've seen. SOC and Traffic vans were Citroen Berlingos.

Plenty of them down around Cork, but then that is not where decisions are made.

CharlieCroker

Our SOC vans are Connects. Driven them before the job. If they're the 110bhp, they'll be fine but if they're the 75bhp, they'll be slower than the 1.4 Focus.

Ideally would be a long wheel base, 110bhp crewcab with a cage and rear seats like the airport police ones. Can't see that happening though.

Mister Jingles

foreign wrote: »

Might be as quick but won't handle the same. Which is a pity as stations will get these as their only car.

Also, Finglas got one on trial earlier this year so it obviously went well.

Spent most of its time in Cabra anyway.

Zambia

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Our SOC vans are Connects. Driven them before the job. If they're the 110bhp, they'll be fine but if they're the 75bhp, they'll be slower than the 1.4 Focus.

Ideally would be a long wheel base, 110bhp crewcab with a cage and rear seats like the airport police ones. Can't see that happening though.

I have driven a Berlingo it handled like a Shopping trolley I would hope the connect is better.

If it is going to be used at any speed I would suggest attaching springs to the left and right sides to bounce it back up after cornering.

If you had the choice the Isuzu dmax with a cage on it would be a far better choice.

Seeing as a 3 Litre Ute from here is not an option.

CharlieCroker

Having driven both a connect and a d-max everyday in a previous job, I'd take the connect EVERY time. D-max is a pig!

Zambia

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Having driven both a connect and a d-max everyday in a previous job, I'd take the connect EVERY time. D-max is a pig!

It's a bit of a battle of the pigs then. The Vito is another good cage truck I suppose a Renault traffic or the Opel equivalent could do.

Mr Simpson

Zambia wrote: »

It's a bit of a battle of the pigs then. The Vito is another good cage truck I suppose a Renault traffic or the Opel equivalent could do.

The traffic, Vivaro and Vito are all similar sizes to the normal transit, not much point if you're looking to go smaller like they have with the connects.

goldie fish

mmcn90 wrote: »

The traffic, Vivaro and Vito are all similar sizes to the normal transit, not much point if you're looking to go smaller like they have with the connects.

You can't compare a vito and a transit when it comes to handling.

Zambia

goldie fish wrote: »

You can't compare a vito and a transit when it comes to handling.

Plus a Vito is a pure babe magnet.

Mr Simpson

goldie fish wrote: »

You can't compare a vito and a transit when it comes to handling.

I amn't, I am comparing the sizes though, Vito is similar size to transit, and I assume they're replacing them with connects for a reason (which probably only makes sense in their heads)

CharlieCroker

It makes perfect sense to replace transits with connects.

-there are no seats in the back of the transits so the space is wasted unless you're moving bikes or traffic cones.
-a separate driving course isn't required to drive the connect
-they're cheaper

The transit T280 in use at the moment isnt fit for purpose. It was when it had rear seats but once they were taken out, the need for a large van being used in the way it is was lost.

searescue

Brand new Connect in Tralee, Kerry already - exact same as one in photo in the Gallery.

kub

searescue wrote: »

Brand new Connect in Tralee, Kerry already - exact same as one in photo in the Gallery.

Do you have any idea if it replaced a van or a patrol car?

searescue

kub wrote: »

Do you have any idea if it replaced a van or a patrol car?

Couldn't tell you.

Mr Simpson

Focus ST estate

Wouldn't mind seeing a few of these. It's a one off build by Ford Special Vehicle Preparations. I wonder will they put it into production as a police vehicle if enough forces are interested.

Capri

Guinness plant Fire/Ambulance unit ( small ladders on the roof, don't see a door ladder tho to get them down by ? )

Mr Simpson

Capri wrote: »

Guinness plant Fire/Ambulance unit ( small ladders on the roof, don't see a door ladder tho to get them down by ? )

Stick it in the Gallery thread as well

Mister Jingles

Saw that Focus a few days ago with its blues on, not as bad as people have been making the light bar out to be. Maybe not as bright as the ones on the Toyotas or regular Focus but a lot better then the old style light bar on the Mondeos and other stuff.

Hogzy

What size engine is on the Traffic Corps Focus?

Mister Jingles

Hogzy wrote: »

What size engine is on the Traffic Corps Focus?

1.6 TDCI 115 I think.

Hogzy

Mister Jingles wrote: »

1.6 TDCI 115 I think.

:eek:
God forbid they ever have to chase someone with such a lack of power.

Mister Jingles

Power would be the only downfall with those, Focus generally have excellent handling.

Should of been issued with Ecoboost version.

belacqua_

That lightbar on the traffic Focus is shocking, looks like something found on a Soviet-era Eastern Bloc Lada police car.

goldie fish

Hogzy wrote: »

:eek:
God forbid they ever have to chase someone with such a lack of power.

Its actually quite a nippy engine with great pickup.
I discovered the reason they got the estates is there are no new Focus saloons being made.

CharlieCroker

Ya there is. Saloons are big business here, the US, Russia and eastern Europe.

Mister Jingles

And the saloons this time round are actually nice

goldie fish

Not available here yet though.
Fine looking car tho.

Mister Jingles

They are, been out a while actually.

goldie fish

Nothing on the Ford Ireland website about them. Not when I looked on friday at least. Noticed it's there now though.

civdef

Capri wrote: »

Guinness plant Fire/Ambulance unit ( small ladders on the roof, don't see a door ladder tho to get them down by ? )

The ladders are mounted on a gantry that slides back and down for access, you can see the handle just over the back door. Most fire appliances have these.

Rawhead

Nearly sure the faded Land Cruiser is with the water unit.

kub

Rawhead wrote: »

Nearly sure the faded Land Cruiser is with the water unit.

I would say you are correct, note the green sticker on the back window. Either the compressed air is for diving or the driver is a funny man.

Capri

searescue wrote: »

Brand new Connect in Tralee, Kerry already - exact same as one in photo in the Gallery.

Maybe they should have got VW Caddys - better handling ?

The Maverick

Rawhead wrote: »

Nearly sure the faded Land Cruiser is with the water unit.

You often see that Land Cruiser, or one that looks very like it, around Croke Park on match days.I could be mistaken but I think I've seen it delivering food to the guards at barriers. I've seen it parked outside the Aviva too.

Mister Jingles

Capri wrote: »

Maybe they should have got VW Caddys - better handling ?

Almost sure the Connects are built on the same chassis as the Focus. Have heard that the Caddys are quick though.

goldie fish

Capri wrote: »

Maybe they should have got VW Caddys - better handling ?

If VW had won the contract, maybe. But they didn't.

The Maverick

The Maverick wrote: »

You often see that Land Cruiser, or one that looks very like it, around Croke Park on match days.I could be mistaken but I think I've seen it delivering food to the guards at barriers. I've seen it parked outside the Aviva too.

Thats a Nissan.

Apparently, according to a fellow i was talking to, in Drogheda there was a jeep and 'small van' (connect?) hanging around the town of late.

The van was normal and marked, but the jeep, which is white, had the single stripe down the side, GARDA on the doors, and that was it. No lightbar and no GARDA on the bonnet. Apparently the two (van and jeep) were travelling together.

Guy isn't really much of a bullsh*tter, so I'd tend to believe him, but I've never heard of anything like this before.

There were mounted (horsey) Gardai in the town recently, for school visits and such, so I thought maybe it was their jeep, but then the van being with them doesn't make sense, and I'm fairly sure I've seen the jeep that brings the horses around and it's fully marked up, anyway.

Anyone got any idea?



(also, that lightbar on the recently posted Garda car is atrocious looking. If they want to put writing on the light bar, why not just use the same lightbar that goes on the RSU Volvos instead of that horrible lego-block styled one?)

The Maverick

foreign wrote: »

Thats a Nissan.

So it is! Tired looking yoke all the same.