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TV License - who should pay?

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  • 14-12-2011 9:48pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭


    Okay so we moved into a house in September, which already had a couple of Tv's in it.

    We have a 9 month lease till June, and a few days ago the Tv license inspector came around and we said we hadn't got one as there was a TV already on the premises before we moved in, we have tried contacting our landlord but got no reply.

    Who should be responsible for paying this?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭Techno_Toaster


    the tenant is so you are. The tvs may have been there before you but if you don't want or use them ask the landlord to remove them. Otherwise its up to the tenant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭SteoL


    The person who will be viewing the TV pays for it, i.e. the tenant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭shangri la


    If you dont want to pay then take the tvs out of the house.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    double GG wrote: »
    Okay so we moved into a house in September, which already had a couple of Tv's in it.

    We have a 9 month lease till June, and a few days ago the Tv license inspector came around and we said we hadn't got one as there was a TV already on the premises before we moved in, we have tried contacting our landlord but got no reply.

    Who should be responsible for paying this?

    i have a contrary view - i think the LL should buy the TV licence, and just add the pro-rata cost into each months rent.

    it means there's never a question for the LL/tenant as to whether there is a current TVL, and it means that when a tenant has a non-12 month lease there's no issue with 'i've paid for a 12 month licence, but i'm only using it for 9 months'.

    consider a house share: the house has three bedrooms and all are let seperately, the house has a lounge with a LL supplied TV. tenant A, B and C all moved into the house at different times, will all stay for different lengths of time, and will find tenants D, E and F moving in and replacing them at different times - it is going to be an absolute pig to get agreement on who should pay what, especially since houseshares usually have a 'come and go' lease, people who had thought they might be there for a year move out at 6 months with a months warning., and people who thought they'd only be there 6 months stay for 18.

    it is far easier (on the LL, no concerns over legal issues, and not having to get involved in tenant squabbles over who paid what, when, who doesn't watch TV so doesn't think they should have to pay) for the LL to pay the TVL on a rolling, 12 month basis and incorporate the cost, pro-rata into the rent than it could possibly be to try and sort out the tenants paying it.

    its a fixed facilty, just treat it like the roof - its far easier on all concerned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,394 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    OS119 wrote: »
    i have a contrary view - i think the LL should buy the TV licence, and just add the pro-rata cost into each months rent.
    Well other people have this view too but they are still wrong too. There are laws in place which clearly state that it is the residents responsibility. I actually agree with you on a individual rented room basis with shared living space but that assume nobody else has a TV which is very rarely the case.

    Licences can be paid for monthy and it is simply a shared bill like electricity. The LL won't be fined. I always make a tenant sign a letter and be aware the licence is their responsibility.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭s_carnage


    OS119 wrote: »
    its a fixed facilty, just treat it like the roof - its far easier on all concerned.

    Thing is its not a fixed facility as if you move out in 9 months you can transfer the licence to wherever your moving. You can't do that with the roof!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    s_carnage wrote: »
    Thing is its not a fixed facility as if you move out in 9 months you can transfer the licence to wherever your moving. You can't do that with the roof!!

    thats true - where you have one tenant.

    what about where you have three? what happens when the one moves out?

    is it not just easier for the LL to buy the licence annually and market the property as having a TV licence, in the way same what that it has a roof, central heating, and a dishwasher/washing machine/tumble-dryer/garden and charge a rent based on the marketable value of the whole package?

    they don't care who buys it, or who pays for it - all that matters is that the address has a licence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,394 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    OS119 wrote: »

    they don't care who buys it, or who pays for it - all that matters is that the address has a licence.
    THey do care who buys it as they fine the person who is meant to pay it. It really doesn't matter what you think the rules have been set. It is not who owns the TV but those who watch it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭petethebrick


    OS119 wrote: »
    thats true - where you have one tenant.

    what about where you have three? what happens when the one moves out?

    is it not just easier for the LL to buy the licence annually and market the property as having a TV licence, in the way same what that it has a roof, central heating, and a dishwasher/washing machine/tumble-dryer/garden and charge a rent based on the marketable value of the whole package?

    they don't care who buys it, or who pays for it - all that matters is that the address has a licence.

    It's the tenants problem. The OP asked who is responsible for the TV licence and the legal answer is the tenant. It's not up for debate and doesnt' matter what way you think it should be


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭double GG


    Well anyhow we got around to it and the Landlord said for us to buy it and then deduct it from our rent so it's sorted. Thanks Everybody!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    don't let him read this thread. Lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    If you are using the TV pay for the licence, if not remove it from the property.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    Who ever owns the t v


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    double GG wrote: »
    Well anyhow we got around to it and the Landlord said for us to buy it and then deduct it from our rent so it's sorted. Thanks Everybody!

    Hold onto that landlord and never ever let him go :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭petecork


    s_carnage wrote: »
    Thing is its not a fixed facility as if you move out in 9 months you can transfer the licence to wherever your moving. You can't do that with the roof!!

    but transferring it doesn't always work, the house you're moving to may already have a TV license, you can't tell your new housemates you're not paying your share as you have you 'own' tv license.


  • Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Rachiee


    sound of the landlord really is op's responsibility to pay it


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    That was decent of the landlord.
    Thread closed.


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