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Are you going to pay the household charge? [Part 1]

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    #602
    johnnyrotten
    Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    Gophur wrote: »
    I think the charge is a disgrace and a retrograde step.

    In a country/county where
    1. I pay for my own water supply
    2. I pay for my own sewerage treatment/disposal
    3. I pay for my own refuse disposal
    4. If I am unfortunate to need a Fire Brigade I have to pay for it
    5. If I am unfortunate to need an ambulance I must pay for it
    6. I already pay €1,000 to local council for Motor Tax


    Why should I be forced, under threat of severe sanctions, to pay more money to a local council for less and less services?

    Next step will be some ridiculous property tax with some idiotic scale of charge based on house size, or value, neither of which have the slightest bearing on the level of services provided by the council

    Ambulance Charges?


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    #603
    Gareth2011
    Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Gareth2011


    Posy wrote: »
    How do people know that they have to pay this charge? :confused:

    Are we going to get a letter or something- I don't know why I should pay this if I'm not actually asked to..

    If you followed the budget at all you would know about. Plus its been on the net and news since it was anounced in the budget. If you google household charge you will find website. Or just add .ie to the end of household charge. Don't want to put up full website cause not sure if its against the rules or not.


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    #604
    daenerysstormborn3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭daenerysstormborn3


    Gophur wrote: »
    I think the charge is a disgrace and a retrograde step.

    In a country/county where
    1. I pay for my own water supply
    2. I pay for my own sewerage treatment/disposal
    3. I pay for my own refuse disposal
    4. If I am unfortunate to need a Fire Brigade I have to pay for it
    5. If I am unfortunate to need an ambulance I must pay for it
    6. I already pay €1,000 to local council for Motor Tax


    Why should I be forced, under threat of severe sanctions, to pay more money to a local council for less and less services?

    Next step will be some ridiculous property tax with some idiotic scale of charge based on house size, or value, neither of which have the slightest bearing on the level of services provided by the council

    Agreed.
    johnnyrotten wrote: »
    Ambulance Charges?

    If you are involved in an accident and emergency services are called you will soon after receive an invoice, usually >€1,000 which you are expected to pay promptly or suffer the onslaught of threatening letters. In a road traffic accident fire brigade charges are supposed to be split between the involved parties but this isn't always the case.


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    #605
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    I am 100% confident that paying this charge is about as usefull as pissing in the wind.

    If people want to pay for it let them. I can't see an ounce of sense in paying TBH.


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    #606
    Posy
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    I just can't believe people have already paid this- talk about keen!! :eek:


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    #607
    Buford Tannen
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Buford Tannen


    Posy wrote: »
    We have to pay for the fire brigade!? :eek:

    Yeah this is what the money gets spent on

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/topheavy-fire-service-costing-vital-frontline-2628344.html


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    #608
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    You'll be a few fivers short because they charge you a service charge for paying in person.

    There was talk of that but it didn't come in.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #609
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    eth0 wrote: »
    Got to love the RTE propaganda about how many people have already signed up, dieing to pay this lovely tax

    Yep. And the Government will leave them alone. As usual.


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    #610
    Bishop_Donal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Bishop_Donal


    Posy wrote: »
    I just can't believe people have already paid this- talk about keen!! :eek:

    Wait until 1.45m latebees try to access the system in the end of March!!

    They'll see the smoke coming from the machine in the UK:D

    Then everyone will be late, and you'll probably have a 3,000 line form to fill to declare that you didn't commit treason before they'll agree to waive the fines!!

    Personally, I just prefer to get rid of the damn thing.


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    #611
    hadepsx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭hadepsx


    no fecking way am i paying. its just to line the imf pockets. the money will never see the irish light of day


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    #612
    gustafo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭gustafo


    hadepsx wrote: »
    no fecking way am i paying. its just to line the imf pockets. the money will never see the irish light of day

    There's 2 of us there, ill have my day in cork prison before ill pay this bullsiht charge.


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    #613
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    hadepsx wrote: »
    no fecking way am i paying. its just to line the imf pockets. the money will never see the irish light of day

    So, you only pay taxes if you agree with where the proceeds go?

    It doesn't work like that. Not by a long shot.


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    #614
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,926 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Definitely not paying.


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    #615
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    So, you only pay taxes if you agree with where the proceeds go?

    It doesn't work like that. Not by a long shot.

    LABOUR LEADER Eamon Gilmore repeated his
    charge of “economic treason” against the
    Taoiseach.

    These aren't words from some hippie or deranged protester. These words came from the Tainiaste. The second in command of the government like.

    So, you want us to support this act by agreeing to pay this charge which will go to the IMF.

    Would you like me to slap myself in the face while I'm at it? ? C'mon.

    irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0113/1224287413015.html


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    #616
    lastlaugh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Of course I'll pay it, it's the law and I am bound by it.

    I hope whoever flat out refuses to pay it get stung with extra fines.


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    #617
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,926 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Of course I'll pay it, it's the law and I am bound by it.

    I hope whoever flat out refuses to pay it get stung with extra fines.

    They won't pay them either. Not enough prison spaces for them either.


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    #618
    hadepsx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭hadepsx


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    So, you only pay taxes if you agree with where the proceeds go?

    It doesn't work like that. Not by a long shot.
    of course not but it so blantantly obvious its heading straight to the imf

    last laugh are you one of them 6000 people who've already foolishly paid.


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    #619
    gustafo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭gustafo


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Of course I'll pay it, it's the law and I am bound by it.

    I hope whoever flat out refuses to pay it get stung with extra fines.

    Law or not it's going to cost the state a lot more carting me off to prison for a few hours because i won't pay it, and if everybody else did the same they wouldn't be long re-thinking.

    Iv gone inside before over stupit fines and it certainly won't bother me if i go in again over a stupit fcukin tax.


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    #620
    lastlaugh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    tayto lover wrote: »
    They won't pay them either. Not enough prison spaces for them either.

    It should be just deducted straight from their wages or something, people need to stop whining and pay up.


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    #621
    ThePower11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    If you're renting, who pays? You or the Landlord?


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    #622
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    ThePower11 wrote: »
    If you're renting, who pays? You or the Landlord?

    Whoever owns the house.


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    #623
    hadepsx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭hadepsx


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    It should be just deducted straight from their wages or something, people need to stop whining and pay up.

    no people need to whinge more, stand up for themselfs and not pay this 'tax'. once you've registered for it your fooked, they'll have all your details to charge you even more tax in the future. sure havent they already admitted this e100 tax is only just the start/ the tip of the iceberg. it will be the straw that broke the camels back come 2013/14.


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    #624
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,275 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    It should be just deducted straight from their wages or something, people need to stop whining and pay up.

    I would have no problem paying it if it actually went into improving local services as it is being sold as, but the dogs in the street know that this money will go to pay off the IMF and keep Bertie and other FFailures in the pensions they have become accustomed to.

    Also why the flub do I need to provide my PPS number to pay for this charge? On those grounds alone nobody should pay it!


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    #625
    lastlaugh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    gustafo wrote: »
    Law or not it's going to cost the state a lot more carting me off to prison for a few hours because i won't pay it, and if everybody else did the same they wouldn't be long re-thinking.

    Iv gone inside before over stupit fines and it certainly won't bother me if i go in again over a stupit fcukin tax.

    It really shouldn't get to the stage where anybody goes to prison, it should be deducted from peoples income in a way that everybody pays, everybody that can afford it of course.

    Times are hard for the country as a whole so we should all just man up and cough up.


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    #626
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,275 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    It really shouldn't get to the stage where anybody goes to prison, it should be deducted from peoples income in a way that everybody pays, everybody that can afford it of course.

    It's not an income tax FFS....they can't just deduct it from income. :rolleyes:


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    #627
    ThePower11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    It should be just deducted straight from their wages or something, people need to stop whining and pay up.
    That's whats fucking wrong with us Irish we just shut up and pay up!


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    #628
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,926 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    How will Bertie pay it when he hasn't even got a bank account? How is his pension paid?


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    #629
    ThePower11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    tayto lover wrote: »
    How will Bertie pay it when he hasn't even got a bank account? How is his pension paid?
    You can pay in person and you receive pension in cash.


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    #630
    lastlaugh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    It's not an income tax FFS....they can't just deduct it from income. :rolleyes:

    Pity that.


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    #631
    Captain Darling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    I havent one fcuking notion of paying it.


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