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Are you going to pay the household charge? [Part 1]

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    #6452
    donalg1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    dvpower wrote: »
    No. It'll certainly be more than €100

    I think for a 3bed semi it will be €312.64 exactly.:rolleyes:


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    #6453
    CajunOnTour
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 82 ✭✭CajunOnTour


    Wow! All the same people still here!

    Who's winning?


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    #6454
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    dvpower wrote: »
    I'm sorry - was there an additional point you were trying to make?

    Did I say there was?
    I am debating a point of what's been stated with another member here.
    Sorry if you don't see that.


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    #6455
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    CajunOnTour wrote: »
    Wow! All the same people still here!

    Who's winning?

    People with houseboats.


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    #6456
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    alastair wrote: »
    If he actually believed that the deadline had some sort of critical meaning.
    Late payers are an equally useful source of revenue.

    Not when the costs of actually getting the cash are totaled :D

    The protests to be policed, the strikes, the martyrs in prison - and hopefully the odd costly riot.

    Sorry Al, this bird ain't gonna fly.


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    #6457
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Biggins wrote: »
    Did I say there was?
    You quoted my post - I thought you were responding to it.

    No probs - carry on.


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    #6458
    CajunOnTour
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 82 ✭✭CajunOnTour


    alastair wrote: »
    People with houseboats.

    Lol! I see you nemesis is here too! You folk been at it all night?


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    #6459
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    dvpower wrote: »
    You quoted my post - I thought you were responding to it.

    No probs - carry on.

    No worries, partly (or all) my fault for not perhaps been clearer. :)

    (Side-note, we are up to 6459 posts!
    Whats the biggest ever thread on AH and boards.ie? :D)


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    #6460
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    CajunOnTour wrote: »
    Lol! I see you nemesis is here too! You folk been at it all night?

    I slept soundly, knowing that I'm paid up for the year.


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    #6461
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    The protests to be policed, the strikes, the martyrs in prison - and hopefully the odd costly riot.
    Theres going to be martyrs!! :eek:
    This issue has everything.


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    #6462
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    alastair wrote: »
    I slept soundly, knowing that I'm paid up for the year.

    He fled the field ;)


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    #6463
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Biggins wrote: »
    (Side-note, we are up to 6459 posts!
    Whats the biggest ever thread on AH and boards.ie? :D)

    I predict 9,000 posts by the 31st.
    (Somebody write that down - you can give me a hard time if I'm wrong)


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    #6464
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    dvpower wrote: »
    Theres going to be martyrs!! :eek:
    This issue has everything.

    Many, many martyrs.
    Riots.
    Who knows what else? :)

    It's what happens when an illegitimate Quisling Regime working for the Germans tries to steal money from the citizens to pay for German banks' gambling debts.


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    #6465
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    alastair wrote: »
    If he actually believed that the deadline had some sort of critical meaning.
    Late payers are an equally useful source of revenue.

    So the deadline has no critical meaning, then? The fact that the majority of people will have completely ignored the deadline set out by government is far from meaningless. It's a clear statement of intent from the public regarding this issue. If you truly believe that Hogan et al don't see that as troubling then you're deluded.
    alastair wrote: »
    I slept soundly, knowing that I'm paid up for the year.

    That's nice. There's no point in laying awake all night worrying about the bogeyman. I wonder if your €100 will be refunded once it is realised that this is completely untenable and unworkable.


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    #6466
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    dvpower wrote: »
    I predict 9,000 posts by the 31st.
    (Somebody write that down - you can give me a hard time if I'm wrong)

    What's the all-time record for a boards thread?

    Going by the rampant Blueshirtism on this thread I'd say it was the Queen's visit :rolleyes:


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    #6467
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    What's the all-time record for a boards thread?

    Going by the rampant Blueshirtism on this thread I'd say it was the Queen's visit :rolleyes:


    Going by the rampant Conspiracy Theorists on this thread I'd say it was 'Were the Moon Landings Faked :rolleyes:


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    #6468
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    I'll pay it if they ask me for it, like the rest of my taxes. They know who I am, they know I am a householder. I am not reading anything addressed "Occupant", that **** goes straight in the bin. I believe in paying my way and don't think the charge is excessive, but ****ed if I'm going to volunteer for a new tax. If they levy a late fine addressed to me I will pay the HHC and contest the fine on the grounds I received no request for payment.


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    #6469
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    My name is URL wrote: »
    That's nice. There's no point in laying awake all night worrying about the bogeyman. I wonder if your €100 will be refunded once it is realised that this is completely untenable and unworkable.


    That's not really on the cards tbh - it's both tenable; the arguments presented against it are ridiculous (and contradictory) in the main, and workable; simple enough database task to start the posted demands.


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    #6470
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Mr. Presentable wrote: »
    I'll pay it if they ask me for it, like the rest of my taxes. They know who I am, they know I am a householder. I am not reading anything addressed "Occupant", that **** goes straight in the bin. I believe in paying my way and don't think the charge is excessive, but ****ed if I'm going to volunteer for a new tax. If they levy a late fine addressed to me I will pay the HHC and contest the fine on the grounds I received no request for payment.

    I suspect you represent a lot of people's attitude.


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    #6471
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    black francis wrote: »
    Going by the rampant Conspiracy Theorists on this thread I'd say it was 'Were the Moon Landings Faked :rolleyes:

    You've produced a few yourself Francis...

    Where's that link?

    Unable to produce one?

    Thought so.


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    #6472
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Mr. Presentable wrote: »
    contest the fine on the grounds I received no request for payment.
    But why do you believe that payment has to be requested? Do you withhold your PAYE until revenue come calling for it?
    Any contest on the grounds that you received no request for payment would be swiftly defeated and you'll be left with a huge legal bill. It's not a service charge, it's a law. Notice is not required, it's your obligation to comply with it.


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    #6473
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Ghandee wrote: »
    You've produced a few yourself Francis...

    Where's that link?

    Unable to produce one?

    Thought so.

    The freemen idiots - of which there's a few in this thread - are wallowing in conspiracy theories. It's like a cargo cult for slower crusties.


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    #6474
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    alastair wrote: »
    That's not really on the cards tbh - it's both tenable; the arguments presented against it are ridiculous (and contradictory) in the main, and workable; simple enough database task to start the posted demands.

    And when posted demands are not acknowledged? How much is it going to cost in legal and administrative fees to acquire the money from those who don't pay on time?


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    #6475
    DULLAHAN2
    Registered Users Posts: 871 ✭✭✭DULLAHAN2


    I was going to pay it but got a letter from someone in labour in the post saying my house was on a list of houses that are in unfinished housing estate's. But it also states i have to register on housholdcharge.ie. If i dont have to pay the charge why do i have to register? I cant seem to find anything on the website.


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    #6476
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    My name is URL wrote: »
    And when posted demands are not acknowledged? How much is it going to cost in legal and administrative fees to acquire the money from those who don't pay on time?

    About as much as it costs to administer unpaid TV licences - it's nothing exotic.


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    #6477
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    DULLAHAN2 wrote: »
    I was going to pay it but got a letter from someone in labour in the post saying my house was on a list of houses that are in unfinished housing estate's. But it also states i have to register on housholdcharge.ie. If i dont have to pay the charge why do i have to register?


    I find it difficult to believe that someone about to give birth would go to the trouble of writing you a letter in relation to this anyway tbh.


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    #6478
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    alastair wrote: »
    About as much as it costs to administer unpaid TV licences - it's nothing exotic.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/3500-jailed-for-not-paying-fines-2042095.html

    Again, good luck to them. 100,000+ people stand to be sent to jail.. but yeah, that's totally workable!


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    #6479
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    alastair wrote: »
    The freemen idiots - of which there's a few in this thread - are wallowing in conspiracy theories. It's like a cargo cult for slower crusties.

    Stop looking in a mirror! :p


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    #6480
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    DULLAHAN2 wrote: »
    I was going to pay it but got a letter from someone in labour in the post saying my house was on a list of houses that are in unfinished housing estate's. But it also states i have to register on housholdcharge.ie. If i dont have to pay the charge why do i have to register? I cant seem to find anything on the website.

    Its just like when you don't own a car, motor tax dept still want you to register for not having one!


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    #6481
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    DULLAHAN2 wrote: »
    I was going to pay it but got a letter from someone in labour in the post saying my house was on a list of houses that are in unfinished housing estate's. But it also states i have to register on housholdcharge.ie. If i dont have to pay the charge why do i have to register? I cant seem to find anything on the website.

    Waivers

    What are the waivers from payment of the household charge?


    The waivers from payment of the household charge are as follows:
    • Owners of residential property entitled to mortgage interest supplement
    • Owners of residential property located in certain prescribed unfinished housing estates (see Unfinished Housing Estates section for more detail)

    Persons claiming entitlement to a waiver are required to register their property.

    Please note that all waiver claims will be validated. Persons who make false or misleading declarations in making a claim for a waiver will be liable to penalties under the legislation.

    https://www.householdcharge.ie/Faq.aspx


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