New Business openings and closures around you?

The Nal

deiseindublin wrote: »

Sylvio's in Templeogue Village seems to be closed. Very surprised, it's always busy when passing.

Will re-open. They're having an issue with the "greedy landlord" apparently.

rubadub

Silvios Templeogue village
January 17 at 4:20 PM ·
Silvio’s templeogue will be closed until further notice please divert to our sister branches Silvio's Nutgrove and Silvios food fare crumlin for your orders call silviosnutgrove @ 014931835 and silvios crumlin @ *01456 3713‬

Viscount Aggro

HOF leaving Dundrum. Its in Irish Times.
BT will take 2 floors.

silver2020

Viscount Aggro wrote: »

HOF leaving Dundrum. Its in Irish Times.
BT will take 2 floors.

A fancy Pennys

Hilary Weston created Primark/Pennys and its within the ABF group they control and the Weston family themselves own BT.

Certainly a surprise and will give a big lift to the centre.

Here's the story
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/brown-thomas-to-open-major-new-shop-in-dundrum-1.4161881
HOF closing in May

L1011

Extremely well managed to get the new tenant announced at the same time.

BT is run as a division of Selfridges (also Weston owned) so it's basically a swap for the last remaining premium UK department store

Fireball81

Huge news, with BT2 closing (presumably) that unit would be ideal for Apple....

Now for speculation of who takes the 2nd half of HOF lol

The Nal

Was in HOF on Sunday. A ghost town.

silver2020

Fireball81 wrote: »

Huge news, with BT2 closing (presumably) that unit would be ideal for Apple....

Now for speculation of who takes the 2nd half of HOF lol

Apple have an exclusive supply agreement with CompuB. The only way an Apple store will open is if its a franchise store operated by compub

The Nal wrote: »

Was in HOF on Sunday. A ghost town.

as it has been for most of the last couple of years. Justa dreary store and staff having no interest (and that's not just in recent times)

Fireball81

silver2020 wrote: »

Apple have an exclusive supply agreement with CompuB. The only way an Apple store will open is if its a franchise store operated by compub

Incorrect.

The weithiest company on the planet can pay it's way out of any such agreement that presumably has a defined term if it wanted too. They're not going to stop opening their own store because of a small local retailer like Compub.

We are the only major city in Europe (possibly the World) without one. They offer a lot more than Compub in terms of product range, ability to try a wider range of things out, accessories and a genius bar that can actually fix things without having to send them offsite (often to Apple).

ted1

silver2020 wrote: »

A fancy Pennys

Hilary Weston created Primark/Pennys and its within the ABF group they control and the Weston family themselves own BT.

Certainly a surprise and will give a big lift to the centre.

Here's the story
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/brown-thomas-to-open-major-new-shop-in-dundrum-1.4161881
HOF closing in May

You are giving her to much credit , it was Arthur Ryan for the Weston family. Not sure if she was married into it then.
They also own Arnotts and Selfridges

Exclamation Marc

Fireball81 wrote: »

Incorrect.

The weithiest company on the planet can pay it's way out of any such agreement that presumably has a defined term if it wanted too. They're not going to stop opening their own store because of a small local retailer like Compub.

We are the only major city in Europe (possibly the World) without one. They offer a lot more than Compub in terms of product range, ability to try a wider range of things out, accessories and a genius bar that can actually fix things without having to send them offsite (often to Apple).

It's misleading to claim its incorrect. They have a contract and an agreement in place and they're unlikely to muscle in on a contract and would likely rather wait until it has expired for reputational purposes. CompuB are extremely unlikely to have a withdrawal provision that's not unilateral as it could destroy their business there.

Also a contract may be in place with the center itself much like Tesco's agreement for the center to not have any other grocery shops. There have been plenty of opportunities in the past where floor space came available in Dundrum so nothing is new now.

coylemj

silver2020 wrote: »

Apple have an exclusive supply agreement with CompuB. The only way an Apple store will open is if its a franchise store operated by compub

Fireball81 wrote: »

Incorrect.

The weithiest company on the planet can pay it's way out of any such agreement that presumably has a defined term if it wanted too. They're not going to stop opening their own store because of a small local retailer like Compub.

Poster silver 2020 is not incorrect. You are correct that Apple could buy their way out of the agreement but it still stands. And if the solution is so simple, why haven't Apple written that cheque?

Fireball81 wrote: »

We are the only major city in Europe (possibly the World) without one. They offer a lot more than Compub in terms of product range, ability to try a wider range of things out, accessories and a genius bar that can actually fix things without having to send them offsite (often to Apple).

We're a third world country. And you're a fan of Apple shops, we get it.

Tabnabs

Ah give it up, Apple just aren't opening a shop in Ireland for many well known and discussed reasons:

There’s something anomalous about the presence of the world’s largest company in Ireland. Despite the country playing host to thousands of Apple (AAPL) employees and the firm’s largest base outside of the United States, there are no official Apple stores to be found.

Apple’s headquarters for Europe, the Middle East and Africa, opened in 1981, is located in Cork City, south of Ireland, and the technology giant has spent hundreds of millions of dollars expanding its campus there in recent years. So why is its official retail presence non-existent?

There’s no conspiracy, and it’s nothing to do with tax. (Opening retail stores would have no impact on Apple’s humongous tax bill in the country, for instance.)

Apple has slowed down its retail expansion in Europe, instead focusing on another area of the world entirely: Asia. In China alone, it has been aiming to triple its number of stores as part of its efforts to tackle high-population countries with low iPhone penetration. Ireland doesn’t really fit the bill: Dublin, the capital of the country, is the only city with more than one million inhabitants, and Irish users already buy the iPhone in droves. According to StatCounter, more than 40% of Irish phones run the company’s iOS operating system. The country also has an established network of authorised resellers, which can more than cope with demand.

The company does have a store in Belfast, in Northern Ireland. But as it’s part of the UK, where Apple already has several stores, the company would have been able to avoid the administrative hurdles involved in setting up an outlet in an entirely new country, which probably isn’t worth the effort for a country with a population so low that it would only justify one store.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/waste-time-apple-open-official-stores-ireland-163215499.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADP4uzZpBglkiSbaIl1AJDlQ15vDAYyQ7yMhSeyKNBqxM-dn9Pnzm2umGkKQULa8a0-RpgfVSVpoPgpcJlNenQ5FaNjUh9862O9xIERP-DiD8Z_ypGJqfLV8j1Oe2qeuAadwDBrXtmibFsoulkZRNCnJdbnfB-XI-a2HyTDQPmd_

ongarboy

Irish Times now reporting that as well as Brown Thomas occupying 2 floors, Penneys in talks to take the remaining House of Fraser 2 floors and will relocate from their existing store.

So that will free up both the BT2 and Penneys units for new retailers.

Fireball81

Re Apple, OK lads you must have inside info on contracts etc Compub and Apple have - otherwise its all speculation on all our parts.

Now back on to the topic if this thread, if Penny's relocate then I guess that's an easier space to reassign.

Was wondering how 2 different stores (different owners) would work with the massive escalators in HOF and the 'openness' of the store around those if that makes sense.

silver2020

Fireball81 wrote: »

Re Apple, OK lads you must have inside info on contracts etc Compub and Apple have - otherwise its all speculation on all our parts.

Now back on to the topic if this thread, if Penny's relocate then I guess that's an easier space to reassign.

Was wondering how 2 different stores (different owners) would work with the massive escalators in HOF and the 'openness' of the store around those if that makes sense.

Dundrum applied for planning to create two separate stores from the HOF store.

Not too difficult to block off the escalators

coylemj

silver2020 wrote: »

Not too difficult to block off the escalators

+1 put a sign at the bottom... 'Next Floor: Bill Cullen, Life Coach'

caviardreams

ongarboy wrote: »

Irish Times now reporting that as well as Brown Thomas occupying 2 floors, Penneys in talks to take the remaining House of Fraser 2 floors and will relocate from their existing store.

So that will free up both the BT2 and Penneys units for new retailers.

BTs and Penneys next door to each other - not exactly the same market! :pac::pac::pac:

Viscount Aggro

Jeez, I would not want to be trying to let the current Penneys store.
or BT2..
They are big units.

coylemj

caviardreams wrote: »

BTs and Penneys next door to each other - not exactly the same market! :pac::pac::pac:

You’d be surprised. For example, lots of people buy daytime holiday clothes in Penneys. But glam up in the evening in BT gear.

Fireball81

silver2020 wrote: »

Dundrum applied for planning to create two separate stores from the HOF store.

Not too difficult to block off the escalators

Yeah but the whole openness (in that you can see other levels when on the escalators for example), so from the new Penny's youd be able to see into BT (in another example you could drop something from the top floor in Pennys and it would land in BT).

coylemj

coylemj wrote: »

You’d be surprised. For example, lots of people buy daytime holiday clothes in Penneys. But glam up in the evening in BT gear.

it is the big fashion statement in the UK.

£500 shoes and £200 jeans, finished off with a £3 Primani top

caviardreams

Viscount Aggro wrote: »

Jeez, I would not want to be trying to let the current Penneys store.
or BT2..
They are big units.

What about a Dunnes?? :pac:

Would love to see something like an Avoca there, or a Sostrene Grene (obviously those stores would be too big for these unless they were split up a bit, but the old Karen Millen store could work) or a UK store that isn't here at all.

Will miss Paperchase in HOF

awec

The BT2 unit isn't that big, any reasonably sized store could fill it. I wonder if the likes of River Island would be interested in moving to a bigger unit so they can start stocking a mens section.

I think the Pennys unit would be good for the likes of TK Maxx, they could move in from their outside unit to what is surely a unit with much more footfall.

strandroad

awec wrote: »

The BT2 unit isn't that big, any reasonably sized store could fill it. I wonder if the likes of River Island would be interested in moving to a bigger unit so they can start stocking a mens section.

I agree, Dundrum could use a Mango store with mens section. They don't have any on the southside and it would be a good match.

Fireball81

caviardreams wrote: »

Will miss Paperchase in HOF

They are in Arnotts if that's of any use (another part of the BT/Westin empire).

strandroad

strandroad wrote: »

I agree, Dundrum could use a Mango store with mens section. They don't have any on the southside and it would be a good match.

they have a concession in HoF at the moment, so possibly a good fit.

spyderski

caviardreams wrote: »

BTs and Penneys next door to each other - not exactly the same market! :pac::pac::pac:

Same owners though, so makes sense.

spyderski

Fireball81 wrote: »

Yeah but the whole openness (in that you can see other levels when on the escalators for example), so from the new Penny's youd be able to see into BT (in another example you could drop something from the top floor in Pennys and it would land in BT).

I’d say the Westons could save up a few bob and do a bit of building work to remove the escalators and fill in the gaps. 🙄

The Nal

Silvios Templeogue back open