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€100 household charge on an apartment

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Budget 2012: Who exactly has to pay the €100 Household Charge?

    We all knew it was coming – the government first mooted the plan for a Household Charge all the way back in July.
    But now that it’s here, who is going to be hit by the new €100 charge?
    Today’s Budget declared that the charge, which is being introduced to “fund vital local services” will be introduced in 2012 and is expected to raise some €160 million per year.
    The charge will come in from 1 January. Homeowners will have the choice as to whether they pay it all in one payment or spread out over the year in four installments.
    Owners – rather than occupiers – of the household will be liable for the charge.

    On the Six One News this evening, Minister for Finance Michael Noonan said that around 400,000 households would be exempt from the charge.
    Properties which will be exempt from the charge include:
    Social Housing
    Some housing estates which have yet to be finished (‘ghost estates’) which will be named by the Department of the Environment
    People who have had to leave their homes through mental or physical infirmity (for example, an elderly person who has moved into a nursing home)
    Residential properties owned by the Government, the HSE or a charity
    Residential properties to which commercial rates apply
    Homeowners on mortgage interest supplement

    Households will have three months to pay if they choose to pay it all in one payment. There will be late payment penalties, which range from 10 per cent up to 30 per cent, depending on how late the payment is.
    The Household Charge is an interim measure pending the introduction of a full property tax, which will apply in 2014.

    The info is there...you are a home owner. A household does not mean only houses...
    house·hold (houshld)
    n.
    1.
    a. A domestic unit consisting of the members of a family who live together along with nonrelatives such as servants.
    b. The living spaces and possessions belonging to such a unit.
    2. A person or group of people occupying a single dwelling: the rise of nonfamily households.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    What if I live in a caravan?

    serious question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭Rambo


    athtrasna wrote: »
    The info is there...you are a home owner. A household does not mean only houses...

    thanks
    money to management fees and now this FFS


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭mrmitty


    Howjoe1 wrote: »
    What if I live in a caravan?

    serious question.

    In the US in many localities that depends upon whether the caravan is attached to the ground, ie. on a foundation or on it's axels.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    So will members of the travelling community have to pay this tax if their caravan is situated at a halting site?

    Just curious.........

    frAg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    frag420 wrote: »
    So will members of the travelling community have to pay this tax if their caravan is situated at a halting site?

    Just curious.........

    frAg

    Of course not. They never pay any tax (except enforced ones like VAT)anyway so its a moot point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭lynchie


    Rambo wrote: »
    Does a Apartment count as a house?
    I see no mention of Apartments for the 100 euro house tax,
    I am the owner.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/who-exactly-has-to-pay-the-household-charge-298300-Dec2011/


    From the bill that was introduced the other day.
    LOCAL GOVERNMENT (HOUSEHOLD CHARGE) BILL
    2011

    In this Act “residential property” means, subject to subsection
    (2), a building that is situated in the State and that is
    occupied, or suitable for occupation, as a separate dwelling, whether or
    not the occupier shares, or would be entitled to share, in connection
    therewith, any accommodation, amenity or facility with any other
    person, and includes—
    (a) a house, maisonette, flat or apartment (including the form
    20 of accommodation commonly known as a bedsit),
    and ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭Mister Dread


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Of course not. They never pay any tax (except enforced ones like VAT)anyway so its a moot point.

    They even manage to avoid paying vat by buying and selling stolen goods!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Of course not. They never pay any tax (except enforced ones like VAT)anyway so its a moot point.

    So if one were to claim to be part of the travelling community would they get away with it boss??


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,735 ✭✭✭horse7


    i earn 230euro a week,so the government think its fair that some one on 50,000euro or more pay the same tax to live in a house.its not on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    so there is nothing to exclude householders living in caravans from the charge?


  • Registered Users Posts: 78,400 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Of course not. They never pay any tax (except enforced ones like VAT)anyway so its a moot point.
    They even manage to avoid paying vat by buying and selling stolen goods!

    Knock it off, the two of you. On-topic, constructive posts please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    horse7 wrote: »
    i earn 230euro a week,so the government think its fair that some one on 50,000euro or more pay the same tax to live in a house.its not on.

    If you are a homeowner then yes. Property taxes are generally the least fairly calculated, look at the UK and US for proof of this.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    And closed.


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