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N5 Ballaghaderreen Bypass

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭RED L4 0TH


    paulbok wrote: »
    Haven't seen any updated corridor map since this one, but the scheme has been extended from Scramogue to join up with the new Longford bypass. It'll be interesting to see this route considering the problem they had in sections of the bogs between Scramogue and Tarmon, and also where (if there is) a new bridge across the Shannon will be.

    Would this not raise the cost considerably, especially if a bridge is needed? Scramoge to Tarmon is still relatively new (2004), and is a decent section of road. Seems an awful waste to bypass this section of N5.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,548 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    paulbok wrote: »
    The obvious bypass, going straight on at the bad bend at the old football field as you come into the town (Dublin side) would have to navigate around several small lakes to get back out onto the Tulsk road, map, then there is the issue of the Rathcroghan complex. This is why the preferred route completely bypasses both towns to the north.

    Doesn't even have to go out that far - you could get rid of the bends and the trip down main street by cutting across (not directly over the football pitch!) and heading for the gap in the houses on the N5 not hugely far outside the town. Does nothing more than bypass the town, but that itself would be an advantage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭paulbok


    The ground conditions are poor along that route, there is a huge spring between the pitch and those houses that used be the water supply for the town, and around that lake the other side of the houses is boggy as well. It would be a easy route alright to bypass the town (it's only a training pitch nowadays, so no major issue with that) but the ground conditions for that stretch would be a nightmare.
    even if that was acomplished, you are then back on the Tulsk road which would need upgrading. straighforward enough to perhaps widen that until you get to Tulsk but after you are faced with the Rathcroghan problem. no obvious route without impacting the historic sites.
    Those 2 issues are why the preferred route now heads north of Strokestown and goes closer to Elphin and on to Bellanagare/Frenchpark.

    This shows the current planning proposal on the NRA website regarding the extension of the scheme to Longford, don't know any more than that, but if it happens, it would have to involve a new bridge at Tarmon and may well be an upgrade to the 'new' stretch from there to Strokestown.


    There was a alternative route proposed elsewhere that instead of upgrading through Strokestown, the sligo road from Longford to Sligo (past Carrick on Shannon anyways) gets upgraded and then spurs south west to Frechpark (map). It wouldn't add a considerable length to the journey from Longford to Ballhadereen maybe 10-15% longer and theres a double benifit of upgrading two routes at once, well half the Sligo route anyway.
    That proposal from what I remember didn't get much consideration for some reason.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭paulbok


    I was speaking with someone who's land is affected by the new route and they had a consultant out a week ago from the NRA. Looks like the scheme is to start early in 2016 with CPO's completed by the end of this year.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    paulbok wrote: »
    I was speaking with someone who's land is affected by the new route and they had a consultant out a week ago from the NRA. Looks like the scheme is to start early in 2016 with CPO's completed by the end of this year.

    Which part of what scheme ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Ballaghdereen to Longford.


    Perhaps it should get it's own thread from here?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    paulbok wrote: »
    Ballaghdereen to Longford.


    Perhaps it should get it's own thread from here?
    Thanks, Didn't even think it was on the radar yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,620 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
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    paulbok wrote: »
    [...] it should get it's own thread from here?

    Good idea! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭lotusm


    joujoujou wrote: »
    Good idea! :)

    What is the new link to the thread


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,620 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    No thread, no link.


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  • Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Start one ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    Judge Mary Devins strikes again - good on her!
    A tractor driver who caused an 11-kilometre tailback on a national primary road involving 80–100 vehicles was fined €300 and banned from driving for a year by a District Court Judge.

    Judge Mary Devins was told by Garda John Boyle at Castlebar District Court that on June 20 last he came across “a convoy” of vehicles travelling eastwards on the N5 outside Westport which were held up by a tractor towing a trailer which contained a mechanical digger.

    Garda Boyle gave evidence that after overtaking between 80 and 100 vehicles he got to the tractor and trailer which was keeping traffic to about 20 kilometres per hour.

    The witness said that when he spoke to the tractor driver, Brian McGuinness, of The Grove, Castlebar, the defendant told him he thought he had pulled in earlier to let traffic go by.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/tractor-driver-who-caused-11km-tailback-banned-from-driving-672090.html


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,018 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Judge Mary Devins strikes again - good on her!
    Proper order!


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 mhaise



    Only right, I was going to Cavan and got stuck behind a guy in a tractor 25mph for miles. Even though he had a number of chances to pull in and let up pass he didn't. Must have been a mile of build up behind him

    Some people only think of themselves and are ignorant of the rules of the road. If more got fined they'd soon cop on.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,018 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    mhaise wrote: »
    Only right, I was going to Cavan and got stuck behind a guy in a tractor 25mph for miles. Even though he had a number of chances to pull in and let up pass he didn't. Must have been a mile of build up behind him

    Some people only think of themselves and are ignorant of the rules of the road. If more got fined they'd soon cop on.

    You should've called the guards?


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