Ordering a pint

Yitzhak Rabin

smodgley wrote: »

yes they can, not supposed to but they can

What are you on about? How can you put a pint back in a keg?

Ledger

If I was in your shoes OP, I would have been tempted to do the same. However I probably would have voiced my objection to the price but pay it anyway. The barman has pulled the pint, if you then refuse to pay for it he has every right to put you out in my opinion.

But I do see where you are coming from. Pint of Lager in New Ross is about 4 euro, in Waterford (depending where you're drinking) it can vary from 3 to about 4.50.

sbsquarepants

newballsplease wrote: »

Ppl saying OP should have asked the price before he ordered. wtf?? Who does that? Tight arses.

By the sounds of things, tight arses are his sort of people.;)

busyliving

5.70 for a pint of Piss...

I can get a pint of proper beer(Paulaner, Erdinger or Leffe(Half Pint, as its supposed to be served) for under €5 in my local spot in the Limerick City and its the dearest spot in the city...

I'd pay no more that €3 for that piss...when I can get a pint of Bav or Tuborg for €3 and it tastes pretty much the same as Coors Light or Heineken

Ledger

smodgley wrote: »

yes they can, not supposed to but they can

Sure they can. I must be off now, there's a unicorn in my garden.

Nervous Wreck

€5.70 would nearly get ya six cans.

drdeadlift

Would they sell as many pints if they asked for the money before pulling the pint?

Ledger

drdeadlift wrote: »

Would they sell as many pints if they asked for the money before pulling the pint?

If the cheapest pub around asked for money before the pint was pulled I'd walk out. That'd be a bit ignorant.

Feisar

yekahS wrote: »

What are you on about? How can you put a pint back in a keg?

As far as I know it can't be done. It can be done with pumped ales but not with the generic set up in 99.9% of bars.

gazzer

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Hardly comparing like with like.
Pubs are dearer than off licences and duty frees - that didn't come as a shock to you did it?
If i was the barman and you'd come in and ordered a pint and then refused to pay for it, i'd have fúcked you out too.

Well maybe if more people did what the OP did the prices of pints in certain places wouldnt be as mental as they are. Fair play to you OP. €5.70 is a rediculous price for a pint.

AnonoBoy

yekahS wrote: »

What are you on about? How can you put a pint back in a keg?

Hoover.

Paparazzo

The scary thing is, a few people are saying this pub gets very full. If this was kielys of donnybrook everyone would be going on about "typical d4 dickheads" paying that amount.

My pet hate in pubs is ordering a shot, and getting it in one of those 25ml plastic shot glasses.

smash

Paparazzo wrote: »

My pet hate in pubs is ordering a shot, and getting it in one of those 25ml plastic shot glasses.

They're shíte. You can't light a sambuca and you can't slam a tequila.

DaveNoCheese

Tis good livin' in the country, €4.20 for a pint, happy days :pac:

Bummer1234

Good on you OP...€5.70 is way over the top :O

DaveNoCheese wrote: »

Tis good livin' in the country, €4.20 for a pint, happy days :pac:

Im with ya there man...€3.80 up more north for me so I could have 3 in by the time the OP's starting his 2nd!!!

i71jskz5xu42pb

Paparazzo wrote: »

The scary thing is, a few people are saying this pub gets very full.

Ivy House charges very different prices depending on the night. Mid week when the St. Pat's crowd are about, prices are low, weekends when there is more grown ups about the prices are higher. The student nights are usually wedged, I've even seen a queue at the door. They also do music (Friday nights I think) which draws a crowd.

That said, 5.70 is crazy, dead right to walk.

conor1979

Feisar wrote: »

As far as I know it can't be done. It can be done with pumped ales but not with the generic set up in 99.9% of bars.

When a keg is finished you can let the gas out and put beer back in but I am pretty sure you cant sell it again because of the pressure/gas/something along those lines!

Lots of pubs I knew got a bad reputation because people thought they were gettin other peoples slops!

This used to be done years ago. Kegs would be filed with the slops from the end of the night and sent back to the brewery for a refund (not sure if a full or partial refund).
This practice stopped happening when the Revenue copped on that they were losing money on all the kegs getting sent back!

Not sure how comman place it is now though!

jack presley

conor1979 wrote: »

Feisar wrote: »

As far as I know it can't be done. It can be done with pumped ales but not with the generic set up in 99.9% of bars.

When a keg is finished you can let the gas out and put beer back in but I am pretty sure you cant sell it again because of the pressure/gas/something along those lines!

Lots of pubs I knew got a bad reputation because people thought they were gettin other peoples slops!

This used to be done years ago. Kegs would be filed with the slops from the end of the night and sent back to the brewery for a refund (not sure if a full or partial refund).
This practice stopped happening when the Revenue copped on that they were losing money on all the kegs getting sent back!

Not sure how comman place it is now though!

The slops from the trays under the taps getting used was always a big rumour around my area when I was growing up. Another urban myth then?

smodgley

NiallSparky wrote: »

How do suggest they do that?

its very easy to do, just degas the keg, open the center part, pour in said pint, replace center part re gas and away you go

jackie1974

Ive worked in bars for the past twenty years and cannot recall ever being asked for prices. €5.70 is a ridiculous charge for a pint. I think you did the right thing in refusing to pay for it, you can be sure it was recycled for the next customer that asked for coors and they probably had the privilege of paying 5.70 for a flat pint.

conor1979

jack presley wrote: »

The slops from the trays under the taps getting used was always a big rumour around my area when I was growing up. Another urban myth then?

Not an urban myth but depending on the publican could be quite true. Some publicans didnt care what the pints were like so would throw a small bit back into pint glasses as they were being sold to drunken customers that probably wouldn't notice.

Other publicans would fire you on the spot for doing this as they wanted to keep a good name for their pints.

smodgley wrote: »

its very easy to do, just degas the keg, open the center part, pour in said pint, replace center part re gas and away you go

Can you re gas the keg? We used to use a funnel to de gas it, then pour the waste back in and send it off. Never in 15 years did I see or hear of one being actually tapped up again!

pickarooney

Surely it wouldn't be worth anyone's time and effort to put one pint back into a keg?

smash

pickarooney wrote: »

Surely it wouldn't be worth anyone's time and effort to put one pint back into a keg?

Apart from the fact it can't be done easily like?

smodgley

when you re connect the line to the beer pump on the bar there is also a gas line into it the one in the link is the ones that were very similier to the ones used in the uk, very easy to do it with these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7E9kzwgsCI&feature=related

smodgley

smash wrote: »

Apart from the fact it can't be done easily like?

obviously not for just one pint no

Hannibal Smith

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Order pint, refuse to pay, get barred.
Sounds about right to me. What exactly were you expecting? A discount?

You shouldn't get barred for refusing to pay. Fair play to th OP E5.70 for a pint is disgraceful:mad:

Tiocfaidh Armani

You can't put a pint back into a keg with beer the thing would blow back into your face. It's an urban myth. I worked pubs in Dublin for years and believe me it's not possible.

The slops go into empty kegs with no gas and Guinness give you a full keg for everyone you fill back to them by way of compensation. There's no benefit of putting it back into a 'live' keg even if you could, but you can't.

pickarooney

smash wrote: »

Apart from the fact it can't be done easily like?

Well, based mainly on the fact it can't be done easily.

DCUlad

Think thats bad. Once was asked to pay 6.20 for a pint of Carlsberg in Fitzsimons Temple Bar! Needless to say it wasn't paid for either.

Tiocfaidh Armani

pickarooney wrote: »

Well, based mainly on the fact it can't be done easily.

Not without you wearing half of it at the end of it after it's sprayed all over your face:D

Lia_lia

Yeah, the prices are almost always displayed at the door. They should be.

Or you could just ask before you decide whether or not to get one

In the bar I work in the pints are €4.20. Stout is €3.90. So when we have city folk in they are delighted with the prices!

bscm

jackie1974 wrote: »

Ive worked in bars for the past twenty years and cannot recall ever being asked for prices. €5.70 is a ridiculous charge for a pint.

It's about 5.60 for a pint of Bulmers in 2 of the pubs where I live, and they wonder why pre-drinking is alive and kicking with all age groups

Tiocfaidh Armani

bscm wrote: »

It's about 5.60 for a pint of Bulmers in 2 of the pubs where I live, and they wonder why pre-drinking is alive and kicking with all age groups

It's one thing that annoys me going back home is the price of the gargle, it's a bloody scandal. The wages for the staff is not that good anymore but the prices are going up and up.

Frynge

there is a lot of misunderstanding on the legality of pubs changing prices during the course of business.

Any pub can change its prices at anytime during the day, it can also do this any number of times in a day.

BUT the prices can only be changed upwards

eg 1pm Stout €4
2pm Stout €5
3pm Stout €4.50

The 3pm price is illegal, these pricing laws were put in place to stop "Happy Hour" styles promotions which apparently encouraged binge drinking.

there are many varied ways around them like having €3 drinks until 7.30pm and opening at 5.30pm.

or

have smirnoff vodka €3 between 7pm and 9pm. all that is needed to be done to make it legal is have no smirnoff on the premises until a delivery arrives at 7pm (from the booth of your car)

drdeadlift

Frynge wrote: »

there is a lot of misunderstanding on the legality of pubs changing prices during the course of business.

Any pub can change its prices at anytime during the day, it can also do this any number of times in a day.

BUT the prices can only be changed upwards

eg 1pm Stout €4
2pm Stout €5
3pm Stout €4.50

The 3pm price is illegal, these pricing laws were put in place to stop "Happy Hour" styles promotions which apparently encouraged binge drinking.

there are many varied ways around them like having €3 drinks until 7.30pm and opening at 5.30pm.

or

have smirnoff vodka €3 between 7pm and 9pm. all that is needed to be done to make it legal is have no smirnoff on the premises until a delivery arrives at 7pm (from the booth of your car)

At midnight would passing into the next day not allow a price change?

Adyx

smash wrote: »

They're shíte. You can't light a sambuca and you can't slam a tequila.

As good a reason as any to use them then.

You can't make a tequila slammer in a normal Irish shot glass (well you can but there'd be fuck all alcohol in it)and most Irish people have no idea why they're lighting the sambuca and do it wrong anyway.

Ally Dick

Are the sneaky price increments that happen as it gets later, in Dublin pubs, published e.g. in kips like Cafe En Seine ?

artanevilla

drdeadlift wrote: »

At midnight would passing into the next day not allow a price change?

That would come under the previous days trading in terms of the licensing hours.

dxhound2005

drdeadlift wrote: »

I walk into a pub in my local area,i order a pint the pint gets pulled then the bar person tells me the cost.I refuse to pay as its 5.70 i end up getting barred from the pub.

Should prices be displays better? should prices be offered by person serving you first before they pull it from the tap?

What would be the normal price, around €4.50? So if you had drank it and left all you would have been out of pocket is around €1.20. A lot of fuss for €1.20.

up for anything

JoeySully wrote: »

Would you prefer if they put the prices on the back of the Taps for you? and under the shelves with the bottles?

Good idea. Why not? Other retailers display their prices on the shelves or on the individual items.

Paparazzo

up for anything wrote: »

Good idea. Why not? Other retailers display their prices on the shelves or on the individual items.

I'd rather they did it on a backlit menu up behind the bar. like in fast food joints. Seriously!

pickarooney

bscm wrote: »

It's about 5.60 for a pint of Bulmers in 2 of the pubs where I live, and they wonder why pre-drinking is alive and kicking with all age groups

I'm not sure it's healthy to have homes in two pubs.

rubadub

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

well done. More people should do this.

More people should ask the price first, just like you do in most other retail outlets. Especially when the item is not easily "returnable", like a beer, a freshly made sandwich or a haircut. I would love to do it with a pub I know is overpriced, walk in with a gang of lads, a stag or something, order up ****loads then ask the price of something and walk, and let them know they lost business.

By leaving the pint behind it will probably go to some other poor unfortunate an hour later. Or else be tipped down the drain and the cost added to other pints, so it goes on again. Just ask the price, and yes I have asked before, and have asked what their cheapest pint was, dunno why you need to be shy or embarrassed about wanting good value. It reminds me of these cliche high price shops "if you need to ask you can't afford it"

chef wrote: »

By law all public house must display their prices.

seamus wrote: »

They're required by law to display the prices at the door.

They only have to display a few prices, e.g. price "of at least one kind of draught stout", and one kind of various other drinks . I very much doubt coors light was listed. The law is pretty crap.

And they can increase prices all they want, people need to start looking at www.irishstatutebook.ie all these laws are there. Seems a lot of the lawyers around here got their degree in the back of a taxi.

kingtut

They are required by law to display the prices outside, if they did and you didn't see them (or simply ignored them) then I have no sympathy for you.

Nothing stopping you asking the price beforehand....

.... although a little bit of me also says thank fcuk someone is willing to complain!

Eircom_Sucks

JustAddWater wrote: »

You've never been in the grafton lounge before so

A Peroni bottle was *cough* €6 *cough* ... and it was just under €12 for a pint of bulmers and a pint of coors light

We had 1 and then left. No matter what I wouldn't go back. Sad thing it it was wall to wall in there. Couldn't move in it

im guessing you were there for the royseven aftershow party nov 26th ???

that place ( Grafton lounge ) is full of w**kers and D4 heads

Frynge

drdeadlift wrote: »

At midnight would passing into the next day not allow a price change?

in the licensed trade a day is considered start of business to close of business e.g 10.30am to 12.30am on a fri is one days trading

Zebra3

JoeySully wrote: »

Would you prefer if they put the prices on the back of the Taps for you? and under the shelves with the bottles?

Great idea. After all the prices of goods are underneath them in supermarkets.

Or would certain people in Kildare St have a vested interest in ensuring this doesn't happen? :rolleyes:

Guill

Well done OP, that is too much to pay, however, you should have checked the price first and not bothered entering the premises when you seen it was not displayed.

rubadub

kingtut wrote: »

They are required by law to display the prices outside, if they did and you didn't see them (or simply ignored them) then I have no sympathy for you.

FFS If you didn't see the post before yours or simply ignored it I have no sympathy for you.

maxfresh

5.70 :eek: the most i paid was 5.50 at a gig in marlay park , absolute rip off