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Acting Allowance

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  • 20-12-2011 11:04pm
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    senorwipesalot
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    Not sure if Im posting in the right place but Im a PS worker and recently took on an Acting position/promotion.
    After a couple of months in the position Ive been told that under Croke Park Im now not entitled to an acting allowance but must keep the position to which Ive been appointed.
    This seems grossly unfair to me as I now have alot more responsibility for apparently no reward.
    Before I make contact with my union I would like to know where I stand.
    Any help or advice would be appreciated.


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    mrsbouquet
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    As far as I know you are entitled to the acting up allowance after being in the position for four weeks.


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    mw3guc
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    From what I've heard, acting allowances have been withdrawn for most PS jobs - know a few people who have been hit with this in local authorities and lost out, even after being in the job for more than a year.
    However, AFAIK, you don't have to stay in the higher job - you can resign out of acting and go back to a lower grade. Check with your union anyway just to be sure.


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    gazzer
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    No more acting up allowances. I was doing the work of a higher grade (as well as my own work) for 8 months last year but got no extra money.


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    senorwipesalot
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    gazzer wrote: »
    No more acting up allowances. I was doing the work of a higher grade (as well as my own work) for 8 months last year but got no extra money.
    Did your union have any input Gazzer?


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    mrsbouquet
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    senorwipesalot wrote: »
    Did your union have any input Gazzer?
    Probably depends on whether you are a civil servant or public servant.
    I am a civil servant and I know of people in receipt of acting up allowances.:)


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    gazzer
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    mrsbouquet wrote: »
    Probably depends on whether you are a civil servant or public servant.
    I am a civil servant and I know of people in receipt of acting up allowances.:)

    I am a civil servant too. There was no budging on the issue with HR etc. It was a case of just getting on with it. Plenty of people in the same situation in this and other departments. Acting up allowances havnt been paid here in years.


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    mrsbouquet
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    gazzer wrote: »
    I am a civil servant too. There was no budging on the issue with HR etc. It was a case of just getting on with it. Plenty of people in the same situation in this and other departments. Acting up allowances havnt been paid here in years.


    God its amazing the difference between one department and another.I was in an upgraded position for 18 months up to november 2010 and was paid an acting up allowance and the co that replaced me was also paid an acting up allowance. I transferred to another department in november 2010. But I know there is a co receiving an acting up allowance in my previous department still.:rolleyes:


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    Decoda
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    senorwipesalot wrote: »
    Not sure if Im posting in the right place but Im a PS worker and recently took on an Acting position/promotion.
    After a couple of months in the position Ive been told that under Croke Park Im now not entitled to an acting allowance but must keep the position to which Ive been appointed.
    This seems grossly unfair to me as I now have alot more responsibility for apparently no reward.
    Before I make contact with my union I would like to know where I stand.
    Any help or advice would be appreciated.

    Hi senorwipesalot,

    Check with your personnel department regarding a Department Circular from September 2010 regarding the payment of Acting allowances. I know of at least one Local Authority that has had to pay back money to an employee that had been acting but not paid the allowance.

    Good Luck

    DC


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    gazzer
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    This article is a year old but it mentions acting up allowances not being paid anymore.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/lowerrank-civil-servants-must-take-on-new-duties-2511019.html


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    Claregirl
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    Don't know what grade you are but this is the CPSU perspective.

    http://www.cpsu.ie/Images/ListBuilder/Documents/Aontas_Dec_Web.pdf

    Also there is no instruction / circular from Finance. As far as I'm aware if you're acting up you should be paid.

    Having said that I know that some departments will not sanction an acting up allowance and the norm is for the work to be distributed among equivalent grade or for a higher grade to take on that role.


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    farmerhse
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    anyone know can someone be offered a lower grade position and still hold higher pay ?


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