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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 kitty31


    Sorry just Like to say Girls yee were great on the morning Show gives us all hope..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 kitty31


    SBJ wrote: »
    Hi all, this is my first time posting, I had PIP implants in 2008 via the <snip>. I got a referal letter from <snip> for an MRI which I had done on Monday in the the Beacon Hospital and I have a rupture in both implants. I am booked in for surgery on the 29th February and just feel so depressed and scared :(

    Hi every1 its my first time on this to...I had mine done wit <snip> in 2008 aswell i got scan few wks ago and had rupture... I was so scared and had to go for consultation with <snip> before opp and the way i was treated by surgeon was terrible made me feel so intimidated sorry not tryin to scare anyone.... I had my opp last fri but i was so scared going in for it he never made me feel one bit comfortable like i had done wrong, but had no choice i had to get it done,i have 2 small kids and had to think of them and my health... I didnt have the money to pay to get them done again like alot of women.. and should NOT have to..... My opp went well other than that thank God still on the mend..Have Check up on Sat and will be putting Complaint in against him once im checked over and he will get a piece of my mind over the Way i was treated.. How DARE HE..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 kitty31


    SBJ wrote: »
    Hi all, this is my first time posting, I had PIP implants in 2008 via the <snip>. I got a referal letter from <snip> for an MRI which I had done on Monday in the the Beacon Hospital and I have a rupture in both implants. I am booked in for surgery on the 29th February and just feel so depressed and scared :(

    Hi every1 its my first time on this to...I had mine done wit <snip> in 2008 aswell i got scan few wks ago and had rupture... I was so scared and had to go for consultation with <snip> before opp and the way i was treated by surgeon was terrible made me feel so intimidated sorry not tryin to scare anyone.... I had my opp last fri but i was so scared going in for it he never made me feel one bit comfortable like i had done wrong, but had no choice i had to get it done,i have 2 small kids and had to think of them and my health... I didnt have the money to pay to get them done again like alot of women.. and should NOT have to..... My opp went well other than that thank God still on the mend..Have Check up on Sat and will be putting Complaint in against him once im checked over and he will get a piece of my mind over the Way i was treated.. How DARE HE..


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Hope1


    I am really getting worried, lately I have alot of pains in both my breasts . Does anyone kno Could this be a symptom of a leak and shud I get MRI ASAP,Or wait another week for Mullingar to contact me. still waiting for app in Mullingar so worried just want them out as soon as :-(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Worrysick


    Hi I'm a newbie an I'm terrified,I've been sticking my head in the sand since Christmas when this nightmare arrived loud an clear on my kitchen radio, I've been very uncomfortable with my implants for a good while now while there not sore as such they just don't feel right, I did mention this ti my docitor last year but she wasn't really interested ! My clinic avc is closed down so didn't really know what to do or where to go an no funds anyway, I'm sick to my stomach with worry,dontbknow where to start, where to go or who to talk to as I didn't tell anyone I had this done, any help would be a God send please,


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭evergreen girl


    kitty31 wrote: »
    Hi every1 its my first time on this to...I had mine done wit <snip> in 2008 aswell i got scan few wks ago and had rupture... I was so scared and had to go for consultation with <snip> before opp and the way i was treated by surgeon was terrible made me feel so intimidated sorry not tryin to scare anyone.... I had my opp last fri but i was so scared going in for it he never made me feel one bit comfortable like i had done wrong, but had no choice i had to get it done,i have 2 small kids and had to think of them and my health... I didnt have the money to pay to get them done again like alot of women.. and should NOT have to..... My opp went well other than that thank God still on the mend..Have Check up on Sat and will be putting Complaint in against him once im checked over and he will get a piece of my mind over the Way i was treated.. How DARE HE..

    Oh God Kitty, that was awful for you:(.......

    Glad your op went well though and you should def put in a complaint against him, an operation is terrifying enough on its own without dealing with an a**hole of a surgeon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 JustPeachy


    Hi Girls,

    I'm another "bury my head in the sand" person. I was pregnant in December when the story broke, and while I contact the <snip> to see if I had PIPs, I put it out of my head again when they couldn't tell me straight away, cos I couldn't deal with it at that time.

    So in the mean time I've had a beautiful baby girl, and my confirmation letter.

    I've spent the last 3 days reading the 68 pages of everyone's awful stories, and everyone's support. It's a great resource for all of us here. Well done to all the girls in the support group, I can see that you've put in huge work and energy. Thanks to (I think!) ILMM for responding to my email recently too, I don't know where you girls get the time!

    My story is - I had BA in October 2001, in Clane Hospital with the <snip>. Alarm bells should have rung at the time, but it had taken me so long to come to the decision that I went ahead with it. I asked the surgeon if it would affect breast feeding, if I ever wanted to do that. He laughed at me and asked me why would I do that to the beautiful breasts that I had just spent so much money on. So much for hipocratic (sp?) oaths and best medical practice at the time! He promised me that it would not affect breastfeeding.
    I lost all sensation in my nipples, (has anyone else had this problem?), and was told it would return within a year. It didn't, but I didn't follow up on it - was busy enjoying my life at the time.
    But three years ago when I had my first baby, I couldn't breastfeed. I've seen lactation consultants etc, and have been told it's a combination of having very little breast tissue( I was AA sized) and also the loss of sensation due to BA. And I've read in the mean time that lots of girls can't breastfeed after the procedure.
    I was also pressurised at the time into going for a bigger size than I initially wanted (I read here another girl was in the same situation?)
    Anyway that isn't anything to do with PIPs, but just an example of how little the surgeon cared at the time about anything other than making sure I went through with the op.

    So now I'm >10 years since op, so <snip> won't do anything for me. I've been phoning them to get referral for scans but - usual story - I can't get anything out of them. They told me that they posted a scan options letter 2 weeks ago - yeah sure you did!

    I have a couple of things I'm trying to figure out -
    * Should I just get GP referral letter and go to the Beacon for scan?
    * Should I bother with the scan as I'll want remove/replace anyway so maybe it's a waste of money?
    * Where should I get remove/replace? Cosmedico/Auralia/The Hospital Group? Has anyone not originally treated by teh Hospital Group gone with them? Their price for Birmingham seems very reasonable but is it available for patients of other practices?
    * Solicitor - I contacted Avril thinking it was no win/no fee, but then she told me about the €750 charge. Are there any Dublin solicitors anyone would recommend who don't charge upfront? We're not badly off, but who has that kind of money to spare these days? Especially when we probably need to find nearly €4,000 for the operation!!!

    Sorry for the very long post, girls, but it's kind of nice to be able to tell someone (other than hubbie!) the full story. I'm really trying hard not to get too upset or emotional about it, I don't have the emotional energy as I've 3 small children under 3, and I need to be there for them. But I think there's something very wrong with my left breast, which I'm ignoring 99% of the time, and panicking about the rest of the time. So thanks a mil for listening.

    xx

    ps not sure if I can help in any way, but I'd love to go to any meetings that anyone is arranging, and help any way I can.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 JustPeachy


    I didn't see programme on tv last night, I didnt' realise it was on (hadn't gotten that far in the thread!)
    But I did see see you girls on TV3 the other morning, and you were brilliant! And it was great to show that as a group we're just normal girls, not pneumatic-chested barbie-wannabies!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭evergreen girl


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    Hope1 wrote: »
    I am really getting worried, lately I have alot of pains in both my breasts . Does anyone kno Could this be a symptom of a leak and shud I get MRI ASAP,Or wait another week for Mullingar to contact me. still waiting for app in Mullingar so worried just want them out as soon as :-(

    Hi Hope,
    pain can be a symptom of a rupture or leak but my MRI detected a very small leak and I have no pain whatsoever so the only way you'll really know is to get an MRI done. And plus when you get it done, at least you'll finally know if there is a problem instead of imagining the worst.

    Prehaps ring Mullingar yourself instead of waiting to hear from them and see what date they can give you. Obviously there are now a lot of ladies looking for breast MRIs so even if you ring anywhere else, you might still be waiting a week or two for an appointment but at least then you would have a date for your MRI.

    Will keep fingers crossed for you.......


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭evergreen girl


    Worrysick wrote: »
    Hi I'm a newbie an I'm terrified,I've been sticking my head in the sand since Christmas when this nightmare arrived loud an clear on my kitchen radio, I've been very uncomfortable with my implants for a good while now while there not sore as such they just don't feel right, I did mention this ti my docitor last year but she wasn't really interested ! My clinic avc is closed down so didn't really know what to do or where to go an no funds anyway, I'm sick to my stomach with worry,dontbknow where to start, where to go or who to talk to as I didn't tell anyone I had this done, any help would be a God send please,

    Hi Worrysick,
    unfortunately we can all identify with your terror:(, not a nice feeling!

    If you haven't already confirmed whether your implants are PIP implants, then this should be your first step. Prehaps ring the Irish Medicines Board 01-6764971, they should be able to point you in the right direction if your clinic has closed down.

    If it turns out you have PIPs, you need to organise an MRI if you can afford it. Also try and meet with a no win, no fee solicitor and get their advice on how you should proceed - it's very difficult situation for all the ladies whose clinics have closed down:(.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Funnyfakename


    Kitty31>

    I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. How are you doing now? I think you are absolutely right to complain, you have been through so much. Please do not post any hints, clues, initials etc. to who was your surgeon. I'm sure there are many people with the same initials that work in companies, don't panic people. I don't mean to be harsh but please be careful about posting that sort of information.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭evergreen girl


    JustPeachy wrote: »
    I have a couple of things I'm trying to figure out -
    * Should I just get GP referral letter and go to the Beacon for scan?
    * Should I bother with the scan as I'll want remove/replace anyway so maybe it's a waste of money?
    * Where should I get remove/replace? Cosmedico/Auralia/The Hospital Group? Has anyone not originally treated by teh Hospital Group gone with them? Their price for Birmingham seems very reasonable but is it available for patients of other practices?
    * Solicitor - I contacted Avril thinking it was no win/no fee, but then she told me about the €750 charge. Are there any Dublin solicitors anyone would recommend who don't charge upfront? We're not badly off, but who has that kind of money to spare these days? Especially when we probably need to find nearly €4,000 for the operation!!!

    Hi Justpeachy,
    congrats on your baby girl and awful about your problems with breastfeeding, although considering what might be inside your implants you are probably better off.....I had a baby girl in September and breastfed her until I heard about PIPs so was not only worried about my health but hers as well but thankfully I ony have a very small leak in one implant and my implants are behind the muscle so all I can do is hope that they are far enough away from my milk ducts so that my milk wasn't affected.

    Won't even get into your post about your surgeon - God he sounds awful, but at least now you know what not to look for in a surgeon.

    Re your questions, def get your own GP referral if you want a scan. As you say might be a waste of money if you are getting them removed anyway but this is something you might discuss with a solicitor as you may need evidence that your implants were ruptured before you have them removed (so if you take a case, they can't argue that they might only have been ruptured while trying to remove them). But possibly I've been watching too many law programmes on TV and this might not be necessary:D.

    I would meet with all the clinics you have mentioned and then decide who to go with (assuming it will be free of charge for you to meet with their surgeons). At least then you will get a feel for which surgeon you would be most comfortable with.

    Unfortunatley can't help you with a suggestion for another Dublin solicitor.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to do!


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭evergreen girl


    Kitty31>

    I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. How are you doing now? I think you are absolutely right to complain, you have been through so much. Please do not post any hints, clues, initials etc. to who was your surgeon. I'm sure there are many people with the same initials that work in companies, don't panic people. I don't mean to be harsh but please be careful about posting that sort of information.


    Sorry should have thought of that, yes that's prob a bad idea!
    Maybe ladies could send you a private message if they are worried about what surgeon to meet in HMG.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭evergreen girl


    By the way, before I log off, just wanted to say I watched Prime Time show and well done to Lisa, Jean and Maria for taking part - ye were great:) and really feel for Maria and what she has gone through. Hope the meeting with the IMB next week is productive!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭kyra123


    Kitty31>

    I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. How are you doing now? I think you are absolutely right to complain, you have been through so much. Please do not post any hints, clues, initials etc. to who was your surgeon. I'm sure there are many people with the same initials that work in companies, don't panic people. I don't mean to be harsh but please be careful about posting that sort of information.

    Total agree with your funnyfake name, the mods on boards have been very good to us and asked that we respect their rules. Posting up names of Dr. has been sighted as a no go and to be honest we don t know who is on this boards or watching it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Worrysick


    Worrysick wrote: »
    Hi I'm a newbie an I'm terrified,I've been sticking my head in the sand since Christmas when this nightmare arrived loud an clear on my kitchen radio, I've been very uncomfortable with my implants for a good while now while there not sore as such they just don't feel right, I did mention this ti my docitor last year but she wasn't really interested ! My clinic avc is closed down so didn't really know what to do or where to go an no funds anyway, I'm sick to my stomach with worry,dontbknow where to start, where to go or who to talk to as I didn't tell anyone I had this done, any help would be a God send please,

    Hi Worrysick,
    unfortunately we can all identify with your terror:(, not a nice feeling!

    If you haven't already confirmed whether your implants are PIP implants, then this should be your first step. Prehaps ring the Irish Medicines Board 01-6764971, they should be able to point you in the right direction if your clinic has closed down.

    If it turns out you have PIPs, you need to organise an MRI if you can afford it. Also try and meet with a no win, no fee solicitor and get their advice on how you should proceed - it's very difficult situation for all the ladies whose clinics have closed down:(.
    .
    Hi evergreen thanks for the number il give them a ring, I had my implants at AVC in may 2005,after hours of looking I've found name of surgon, where he works in the hse(I think,he's on there web site anyway) and also a clinic he works as a consultant or did anyway ! I'm going to email him an see if he'll be able to help..I'm just afraid he won't give me any iformatiing because he might think I hold him respondable,which I don't, any advice would be great......ps I don't have


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭evergreen girl


    Worrysick wrote: »
    .
    Hi evergreen thanks for the number il give them a ring, I had my implants at AVC in may 2005,after hours of looking I've found name of surgon, where he works in the hse(I think,he's on there web site anyway) and also a clinic he works as a consultant or did anyway ! I'm going to email him an see if he'll be able to help..I'm just afraid he won't give me any iformatiing because he might think I hold him respondable,which I don't, any advice would be great......ps I don't have

    Hi Worrysick,
    I'm sure if you email him, he should at least be able to tell you if he ever used PIPs as I'm sure surgeons would def remember what brands of implants they have used. I haven't heard AVC mentioned in any of the other posts here so quite possibly they never used PIPs......hopefully you won't be waiting too long to find out.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Can anyone help me i also had the pip implants from cork in april 2008 how do you find out were they the bad batch am stunned knew nothing till watched primetime last night was in saudi arabia for 2 years what do i do where do i go i have extreme breast pain and pain under one arm i went to my own doctor and she said there was nothing she could do as she knows nothing about implants am beside myself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭kyra123


    Can anyone help me i also had the pip implants from cork in april 2008 how do you find out were they the bad batch am stunned knew nothing till watched primetime last night was in saudi arabia for 2 years what do i do where do i go i have extreme breast pain and pain under one arm i went to my own doctor and she said there was nothing she could do as she knows nothing about implants am beside myself

    Hey there,

    Sorry to hear you got such a shock last night. the girls here on boards are great and will help you. First contact your clinic if they are still open and ask them for help, if your clinic is now gone then contact the Irish medicines board ph 016764971 they will be open again first thing monday morning, they will help you to track down your medical records via the liquidator of the company and they will then be able to tell you what implants you have.

    Also have a look over the last three pages of posts, if i remember right one of the girls put up the contact details for the owner of the clinic in cork, also that they have been really helpful getting information back to people.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭kyra123


    Prime time raised some good points last night about the gap in regulation.
    The Irish Medicines Board (IMB) regulate medical devices, and the Irish Medical Council regulate doctors in Ireland. But an over regulator for the cosmetics surgery industry is not in place. Our action group are trying to voice this concern but it would really help if others would voice it too in the form of
    letters or mails to the minister of Health. If anyone has time over the next few days please send on a letter to the minister to this effect. This would really help us with our meeting with the IMB on monday.

    Also I know a couple of you are really angry about how you have been treated by certain doctors/surgeons in clinics but instead of posting/pm on the board and getting into trouble with boards you can also log a formal complaint with the medical council - www.medicalcouncil.ie or call them on 01 4983102.
    I know this because I have already done it myself. I hope that helps a little and lets those of you know that if you have been treated badly they will listen, take it very serious and investigate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Pippy12


    saulite wrote: »
    The other thing is they coming up with this report in IMB with such a small % of rupture and in real fact thr are so many girls with leaks and ruptures after scans .. Stay strong please xxxxxxx

    This I agree is total crap!! Obviously there are people out their with leaks or ruptures, and that have no symptoms whatsoever. They will not have a realistic idea of the ruputre rate until every woman that received these implants has had an mri, so their statistics are well off in my opinion!


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Pippy12


    nettie80 wrote: »
    Hi Pippy12

    So sorry to hear about your results, cant imagine how you must be feeling, good luck with your op in May :) I was wondering if you had any inclination of a rupture before hand? Did you have any symptoms or cause for concern before you had your scan? I have read previous posts where ladies have said they knew something was wrong or had problems with their implants. Personally, I have had no issues at all and am awaiting my results from my mri and its just made me want to ask if its possible to have a rupture but with no obvious signs or symptoms.

    Thanks

    Hi Nettie,
    Too be honest since I heard about pip implants I think I'v been imaging pain!ha. I don't know really. It's really hard to explain. What I think I realistically have prob felt for awhile is heat. Nothing painful just a hot sensation within my breast but to be honest this could easily have been written off as something else and I prob would never have thought there was a problem with my implant until I heard about the whole scandel! So i suppose to answer your question I would say I would have had no idea I had a rupture without the mri. And after getting a copy of my results today I've read that I have entercapsulated rupture which means the silicone had escaped out into my breast and is not confined as it should be. So you'd imagine I should have been in a lot of pain but I wasn't. Fingers crossed you get the results your hoping for and thanks for the support


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭saulite


    Pippy12 wrote: »
    Hi Nettie,
    Too be honest since I heard about pip implants I think I'v been imaging pain!ha. I don't know really. It's really hard to explain. What I think I realistically have prob felt for awhile is heat. Nothing painful just a hot sensation within my breast but to be honest this could easily have been written off as something else and I prob would never have thought there was a problem with my implant until I heard about the whole scandel! So i suppose to answer your question I would say I would have had no idea I had a rupture without the mri. And after getting a copy of my results today I've read that I have entercapsulated rupture which means the silicone had escaped out into my breast and is not confined as it should be. So you'd imagine I should have been in a lot of pain but I wasn't. Fingers crossed you get the results your hoping for and thanks for the support






    Just read the latest about PIP ultrasoud report !!

    Ultrasound inaccurate

    Not conclusive

    There are many people talking about having an ultrasound to check if their implants are ruptured. We wanted to make it clear that an ultrasound is only 60% accurate so I am sure this will not put your mind at rest and is why many women who have been sent for an ultrasound who were told that they did not have ruptured implants but underwent surgery only to find that their implants had ruptured. The other factor is that the implants can sometimes have slow seepage that will not be detected from any scan and only becomes apparent when you undergo surgery.







    MRI is best to go for the girls who still don't know what to do.. as you might go for ultrascan as I did and you don't get the right result and in real you might be in title for free operation as you can read in the latest news about PIP implants the latest report of ruptures are higher than we have been told by HMG .


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 JustPeachy


    Hi Saulite, I think you're right, you just need to have a read through this thread to see how many people here have had some kind of rupture or seepage confirmed. It's definitely at least 50%, from what I can see! I think we just need to get the things out of our bodies one way or another - borrow from friends as you had to do, get a loan, or get HMG or Clane or whoever to do it for free - for those girls unlucky enough to have ruptures. I can understand the girls who were kind of hoping for a bad result from the MRI... it's a bit of a catch 22 isn't it? Hopefully we can make them pay later for what they've done to us - through our solicitors, or by getting them sanctioned by the government or the medicines board - by writing to every politician and the IMB and making sure justice is done. Unfortunately we've seen from teh poor Hepatitis B ladies that the "powers that be" don't really care, so we need to just apply as much pressure as possible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭ilmm2012


    JustPeachy wrote: »
    I didn't see programme on tv last night, I didnt' realise it was on (hadn't gotten that far in the thread!)
    But I did see see you girls on TV3 the other morning, and you were brilliant! And it was great to show that as a group we're just normal girls, not pneumatic-chested barbie-wannabies!!

    Hi JustPeachy glad i could be of some help on the support website I've been so busy on that all week that havent had time to come on Boards. I hope youre well I know this is all alot to take in but youre on the right thread and theres a great bunch of girls on here ready and willing to give advice. Thanks for your lovely message its great to have support on here from everyone too, we're trying our best to give a voice to you ladies on here and all over Ireland and hopefully we will get somewhere.

    Re GP referral or Harley referral Id give Harley 1 more try if its Charter Medical or Mullingar youre after but Id ask them to fax your referral letter to them rather than send it out to you this is what I did and I have my MRI this week.

    Hope this helps Sarita x


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  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭ilmm2012


    Pippy12 wrote: »
    Hi girls
    Havent been on in awhile. Just wanted to say well done for ye're performance on the morning show. Ye all came across very well and finally I feel like our thoughts and concerns are been broadcast to the public. Without ye're bravery this whole mess would probably be swept under the carpet! Looking forward to prime time tonight and again well done ye really did us proud.

    On a sadder note got results of my MRI yesterday, which was also the day Harley finally sent me my confirmation letter that I had PIP implants. I have a leak and inflammed lymph nodes on my left side and the right side was inconclusive!! On a slightly more positive note I am within the 6yrs so I am entitled to get mine replaced for free. I have not met the surgeon yet I have opted to wait until May to have my surgery (my own decision). If this had not come to light I could have been sitting here for another 4 or 5 years with industrial silicone leaking into my body! Not impressed. For all I know this leak could have been there for the last 4 or 5 years!!

    I wonder ifthe price of my MRI will be refunded to me, if my 3 trips to Dublin will be funded and if my travel expenses to Mullingar will be funded. I also wonder if I will be compensated for the pain I am going to have to go through for removal and replacement, and the pain and recovery time in the weeks that follow the operation.

    While I am annoyed I was ever put in this situation I am relieved I'll have them replaced for free as I do not have a fraction of the money needed to replace them myself. So for all ye girls who do not have leaks or ruptures I would still like to offer my support , no of us deserved to have this product inserted into our bodies and none of us deserve to have to pay to have this faulty, substandard product removed!!

    Hi Pippy I'm so sorry to hear about the results of your MRI and I cant blame you for being so angry you have any right but like you said at least there is a positive if you can even call it that I know youre trying to look on the bright side. Thank you so much for your support it means everything to us, when times are tough we all need to be there for each other, to vent and share our stories, to hold each other up as there could be a long road ahead yet!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭ilmm2012


    kitty31 wrote: »
    Hi every1 its my first time on this to...I had mine done wit <snip> in 2008 aswell i got scan few wks ago and had rupture... I was so scared and had to go for consultation with <snip> before opp and the way i was treated by surgeon was terrible made me feel so intimidated sorry not tryin to scare anyone.... I had my opp last fri but i was so scared going in for it he never made me feel one bit comfortable like i had done wrong, but had no choice i had to get it done,i have 2 small kids and had to think of them and my health... I didnt have the money to pay to get them done again like alot of women.. and should NOT have to..... My opp went well other than that thank God still on the mend..Have Check up on Sat and will be putting Complaint in against him once im checked over and he will get a piece of my mind over the Way i was treated.. How DARE HE..

    Hi Kitty sorry to hear about the way you were treated by your surgeon it's a disgrace but good on you complaining they have got away with far too much for far too long and know the sh1t is hitting the fan they think they can treat us like dogs!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 JustPeachy


    Meeting Cosmedico at lunchtime today, will let you all know how I get on!


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    JustPeachy wrote: »
    Meeting Cosmedico at lunchtime today, will let you all know how I get on!
    Good luck just peachy but they are lovely there xxx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 EllaR


    Hi, I'm new but been following this thread for a few days and it's my main source of information so thanks so much. I got pip's through hmg in 2004 and late last wk I started to feel heat, stinging and discomfort. I think I'm in shock because quite calm but it's very hard to get help or get anything moving quickly. I've been ringing trying to get scan but earliest confirmed appoint so far is 2feb. Pls if u could recommend a good place to get quick MRI pls do.
    Also have appointment with cosmedico to talk about surgery. I really need a scan first but have to do something.
    If anyone could recommend surgeon pls do. I don't trust any of them now. I really feel I need a good one because Im sure I've a rupture from my symptoms. Ive been googling everything so far because my GP knows nothing and I don't no where to go for answers. I'm afraid to exercise or lift anything but trying to continue as normal. Every day I feel I'm doing more damage though.
    Has anyone been through this and knowswhether it's possible not to get them replaced? Does it really look terrible. At moment I don't care I just to keep my health and would rather not get them in again.
    Thanks so much, you girls from pip action group have been brilliant


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  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    ilmm2012 wrote: »
    kitty31 wrote: »
    Hi every1 its my first time on this to...I had mine done wit Harley in 2008 aswell i got scan few wks ago and had rupture... I was so scared and had to go for consultation with Harley before opp and the way i was treated by surgeon was terrible made me feel so intimidated sorry not tryin to scare anyone.... I had my opp last fri but i was so scared going in for it he never made me feel one bit comfortable like i had done wrong, but had no choice i had to get it done,i have 2 small kids and had to think of them and my health... I didnt have the money to pay to get them done again like alot of women.. and should NOT have to..... My opp went well other than that thank God still on the mend..Have Check up on Sat and will be putting Complaint in against him once im checked over and he will get a piece of my mind over the Way i was treated.. How DARE HE..

    Hi Kitty sorry to hear about the way you were treated by your surgeon it's a disgrace but good on you complaining they have got away with far too much for far too long and know the sh1t is hitting the fan they think they can treat us like dogs!!
    God kitty that is awful u poor thing but dont min then what goes around comes around i ha my mri thursday im dreading the results have to meet with himself at the end of march BRING IT ON!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 EllaR


    Sorry, Ella here. I said appointment for MRI was 2nd feb, I meant 2nd April


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    EllaR wrote: »
    Hi, I'm new but been following this thread for a few days and it's my main source of information so thanks so much. I got pip's through hmg in 2004 and late last wk I started to feel heat, stinging and discomfort. I think I'm in shock because quite calm but it's very hard to get help or get anything moving quickly. I've been ringing trying to get scan but earliest confirmed appoint so far is 2feb. Pls if u could recommend a good place to get quick MRI pls do.
    Also have appointment with cosmedico to talk about surgery. I really need a scan first but have to do something.
    If anyone could recommend surgeon pls do. I don't trust any of them now. I really feel I need a good one because Im sure I've a rupture from my symptoms. Ive been googling everything so far because my GP knows nothing and I don't no where to go for answers. I'm afraid to exercise or lift anything but trying to continue as normal. Every day I feel I'm doing more damage though.
    Has anyone been through this and knowswhether it's possible not to get them replaced? Does it really look terrible. At moment I don't care I just to keep my health and would rather not get them in again.
    Thanks so much, you girls from pip action group have been brilliant
    Hi ellar i had my mri in charter medical on thursday and they were lovely it cost €280 and shoukd get my results this week if you ring hmg and ask them to send a referal lettet by fax i was only waiting a week so fingers crossed for you and make sure to mention u have symptoms and try to get an appointment then to see the surgeon so that you can get in as quick a possible to have these removed i also dont want to replace but dont know what it would look like so looking into this at the mo also so if anyobe knows anything could u let us kbow thanks xxx hope ur ok ella dont worry us girls from pip action group have plenty more up our sleeves so stay strong xxxx:-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 sue103


    EllaR wrote: »
    Hi, I'm new but been following this thread for a few days and it's my main source of information so thanks so much. I got pip's through hmg in 2004 and late last wk I started to feel heat, stinging and discomfort. I think I'm in shock because quite calm but it's very hard to get help or get anything moving quickly. I've been ringing trying to get scan but earliest confirmed appoint so far is 2feb. Pls if u could recommend a good place to get quick MRI pls do.
    Also have appointment with cosmedico to talk about surgery. I really need a scan first but have to do something.
    If anyone could recommend surgeon pls do. I don't trust any of them now. I really feel I need a good one because Im sure I've a rupture from my symptoms. Ive been googling everything so far because my GP knows nothing and I don't no where to go for answers. I'm afraid to exercise or lift anything but trying to continue as normal. Every day I feel I'm doing more damage though.
    Has anyone been through this and knowswhether it's possible not to get them replaced? Does it really look terrible. At moment I don't care I just to keep my health and would rather not get them in again.
    Thanks so much, you girls from pip action group have been brilliant

    Hi EllaR,
    Firstly thank you for supporting us we PIP action group are trying to help everyone in this terrible situation. Have you been to see your GP? They should be able to refer you for an MRI. Ultrasound is coming back that it is only 40 to 60% accurate so I would suggest MRI. HMG will refer you for MRI but it is a matter of getting through to them.

    I had mine removed and replaced with Cosmedico 3 weeks ago now and found them brilliant, they will give you all the information you need before any surgery. It is a very personal decision whether to have them replaced or not so I'm sure the staff at Cosmedico will be able to assist you on that one. If you need anything else please let me know and i will try to help you


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭saulite


    JustPeachy wrote: »
    Meeting Cosmedico at lunchtime today, will let you all know how I get on!




    Good luck hon, I was thr today for my check up !! I am very happy with after care , my doctor is really good and everyone is lovely thr !! Hope all goes well for you too .
    :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭saulite


    EllaR wrote: »
    Hi, I'm new but been following this thread for a few days and it's my main source of information so thanks so much. I got pip's through hmg in 2004 and late last wk I started to feel heat, stinging and discomfort. I think I'm in shock because quite calm but it's very hard to get help or get anything moving quickly. I've been ringing trying to get scan but earliest confirmed appoint so far is 2feb. Pls if u could recommend a good place to get quick MRI pls do.
    Also have appointment with cosmedico to talk about surgery. I really need a scan first but have to do something.
    If anyone could recommend surgeon pls do. I don't trust any of them now. I really feel I need a good one because Im sure I've a rupture from my symptoms. Ive been googling everything so far because my GP knows nothing and I don't no where to go for answers. I'm afraid to exercise or lift anything but trying to continue as normal. Every day I feel I'm doing more damage though.
    Has anyone been through this and knowswhether it's possible not to get them replaced? Does it really look terrible. At moment I don't care I just to keep my health and would rather not get them in again.
    Thanks so much, you girls from pip action group have been brilliant



    Hi Ella I am so sorry to hear you have to go thru this and its so frustrating tht GP doesn't have a clue they shud know by now , why IMB doesn't inform them , seriously ggggrrrr !! My advice to you try to not to worry too much I know its hard and I so feel for you !! Stay strong please ! Get your MRI done first , I heard hmg is sending their girls to mullingar st francis , try to ring them and ask them what they can do for you !! I had my PIP'S removed in Cosmedico and I was very happy with them , think if you meet surgeon thr you will have many questions to ask and you will know if you happy to go with them , I was happy with my choice of surgeon , but I don't want to mention his name ..sorry its just really your choice now , cosmedico is offering to meet all of the surgeons and you can look at their med history as they give you all the info about surgeons ! About replacing or not again I think its really up to you .. I was happy to go for augmentation what I wasn't happy about the product they used , I did a good research on implant and happy with the result.. Good luck hon with evrth and yr choice.. try to stay strong and we are here for you !!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 gabby1205


    Hi girls Iv been following this thread since this nightmare began. I've finally plucked up the courage to post. Ive also got pip implants I've had my MRI and no rupture but I still want these implants out! I'm on two minds whether to just have explant or have them replaced. Can anyone tell me if they have had them replaced, how long was hosp. Stay? What is recovery like? Did they need drains? did they opt for silicone or saline implants. I've read on the net that with saline if they rupture they are safer. Sorry lots of questions but I want to be 100% sure before I make up mind don't want to have to go through ever again.. girls I'd just like to say thankyou for all the hard work yee have done your an inspiration to us all you should be soo proud of yourselves watched tv3 and primetime v. Encouraging keep up the fantastic work both myself and hubby have signed petition!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 nettie80


    Good news, got my results today and there is no rupture, everything is at it should be! Major relief, I'm not going to lie, its been a crappy few days but now I at least know what to do.

    For all the ladies awaiting their results, chin up and fingers crossed you get a good result. xxxx


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    nettie80 wrote: »
    Good news, got my results today and there is no rupture, everything is at it should be! Major relief, I'm not going to lie, its been a crappy few days but now I at least know what to do.

    For all the ladies awaiting their results, chin up and fingers crossed you get a good result. xxxx
    Ah nettie thats great news so happy for u xxx


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    gabby1205 wrote: »
    Hi girls Iv been following this thread since this nightmare began. I've finally plucked up the courage to post. Ive also got pip implants I've had my MRI and no rupture but I still want these implants out! I'm on two minds whether to just have explant or have them replaced. Can anyone tell me if they have had them replaced, how long was hosp. Stay? What is recovery like? Did they need drains? did they opt for silicone or saline implants. I've read on the net that with saline if they rupture they are safer. Sorry lots of questions but I want to be 100% sure before I make up mind don't want to have to go through ever again.. girls I'd just like to say thankyou for all the hard work yee have done your an inspiration to us all you should be soo proud of yourselves watched tv3 and primetime v. Encouraging keep up the fantastic work both myself and hubby have signed petition!
    Hi gabby so glad u have no rupture but completely understand u want them out asap if u have any chance of getting some money together alot of the ladies on here have been saying great things about cosmedico and i think a consultation with them is free so u could cintact them and a few other clinics to see what your options are i know a few clinics are operating ata reduced rate for pip girls also have looked into alot of implants u just have to do your homework i suppose but the nagor and allergan naturelle seem to be the good ones at the mo but like everything im weary of them all im strongly thinking of just explanting and imbtrying to gatjer some info on this at the moand will be speaking witha surgeon at the weekend so il let u know how this goes also i dont know much about the saline implants but there is an interesting post on our facebook page (pip action group) about silicone v saline and the health implications of both and also a helpful link to breast enhancement awareness from justine allen on the page also if u want to havea look hope ur doing ok and thank you so much for signing our petition if you need anything you can contact us through our website at www.pipactiongroup.com best of luck with everything xxx


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Belle2012


    Hi girls
    Hope everyone is doing well. I got my MRI results and everything is fine thank god :) so happy. I'm going for a consultation with cosmedico tomorrow. Ye all seem happy with them.
    I'm just wondering if anyone else has to take time off work for the operation, and if so do you get sick pay from the dole? I won't get paid from work so this is worrying me.
    Thanks girls x


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭ilmm2012


    Belle2012 wrote: »
    Hi girls
    Hope everyone is doing well. I got my MRI results and everything is fine thank god :) so happy. I'm going for a consultation with cosmedico tomorrow. Ye all seem happy with them.
    I'm just wondering if anyone else has to take time off work for the operation, and if so do you get sick pay from the dole? I won't get paid from work so this is worrying me.
    Thanks girls x

    Hi Belle Id imagine once you can get your doctor to sign off on this then you would be paid from the social. Hope this helps

    Sxx


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Belle2012


    Thank you ilmm2012


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    Belle2012 wrote: »
    Hi girls
    Hope everyone is doing well. I got my MRI results and everything is fine thank god :) so happy. I'm going for a consultation with cosmedico tomorrow. Ye all seem happy with them.
    I'm just wondering if anyone else has to take time off work for the operation, and if so do you get sick pay from the dole? I won't get paid from work so this is worrying me.
    Thanks girls x
    Thats great news belle so delighted for u yeah u just get a sick cert from the doctors think u get about €240 for a week u just sent it to social welfare xxx


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Belle2012


    jeano8 wrote: »
    Thats great news belle so delighted for u yeah u just get a sick cert from the doctors think u get about €240 for a week u just sent it to social welfare xxx
    Thank you jean08 x


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 gabby1205


    jeano8 wrote: »
    gabby1205 wrote: »
    Hi girls Iv been following this thread since this nightmare began. I've finally plucked up the courage to post. Ive also got pip implants I've had my MRI and no rupture but I still want these implants out! I'm on two minds whether to just have explant or have them replaced. Can anyone tell me if they have had them replaced, how long was hosp. Stay? What is recovery like? Did they need drains? did they opt for silicone or saline implants. I've read on the net that with saline if they rupture they are safer. Sorry lots of questions but I want to be 100% sure before I make up mind don't want to have to go through ever again.. girls I'd just like to say thankyou for all the hard work yee have done your an inspiration to us all you should be soo proud of yourselves watched tv3 and primetime v. Encouraging keep up the fantastic work both myself and hubby have signed petition!
    Hi gabby so glad u have no rupture but completely understand u want them out asap if u have any chance of getting some money together alot of the ladies on here have been saying great things about cosmedico and i think a consultation with them is free so u could cintact them and a few other clinics to see what your options are i know a few clinics are operating ata reduced rate for pip girls also have looked into alot of implants u just have to do your homework i suppose but the nagor and allergan naturelle seem to be the good ones at the mo but like everything im weary of them all im strongly thinking of just explanting and imbtrying to gatjer some info on this at the moand will be speaking witha surgeon at the weekend so il let u know how this goes also i dont know much about the saline implants but there is an interesting post on our facebook page (pip action group) about silicone v saline and the health implications of both and also a helpful link to breast enhancement awareness from justine allen on the page also if u want to havea look hope ur doing ok and thank you so much for signing our petition if you need anything you can contact us through our website at www.pipactiongroup.com best of luck with everything xxx

    Thks a mill , yep if u could let me know how your meeting goes with cosmedico it be great. I'll ring them this week and organise a consultation I'll have a list of questions for them ;) I'm going to get the money together some how;) Thks for all your help ill have a look on facebook aswell gotta stay positivex


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 sheba12


    hi all im new to all this too,and i have pip implants i got them done 6 yrs ago through hmg and like u im so scared im very sore and swollen and in a lot of pain im even nervous walking around in case i bump inte something,im having my scan with euromedics in kilkenny its 195 euro if u have a student card or medical card,,im fuming with the harley medical any time i ring i get england,and clane told me on the phone there was nothing wrong with these implants and they DID NOT have to come out that they just had a higher rupture rate what they forgot to tell us was that they could be filled with any type of **** possible,we have to stick together on this and keep fighting and get these removed and replaced for free cos i certainly aint going down without a fight,they have t reated us like guinea pigs:mad: if france and england can replace them then why not ireland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 sheba12


    hi all im new to this too i have pip too and ill have them done 6 yrs on the 25/3/2012 so my anniversary is real close as i lve in tipperary i have to go to kilkenny for my scan as im about 140 miles from mullingar. im very sore and all swollen i know something is wrong i can feel it like ye ive been treated like dirt by harley and we have been used as guinea pigs and have to keep fighting to have these things replaced and removed for free its not fair on the girls that are out of work and were expected to pay for this its a disgrace we should get our local tds to hop off the government and get these things out of us :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭Pixiejane


    http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2012/03/06/breast-implant-issue-needs-resolution-%e2%80%93-mitchell-o%e2%80%99connor/

    Hi Ladies,

    Have a read of this, hope it gives you all a little boost. Mary Mitchell O'Connor met with us last weekend and has promised to help. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭evergreen girl


    sheba12 wrote: »
    hi all im new to all this too,and i have pip implants i got them done 6 yrs ago through hmg and like u im so scared im very sore and swollen and in a lot of pain im even nervous walking around in case i bump inte something,im having my scan with euromedics in kilkenny its 195 euro if u have a student card or medical card,,im fuming with the harley medical any time i ring i get england,and clane told me on the phone there was nothing wrong with these implants and they DID NOT have to come out that they just had a higher rupture rate what they forgot to tell us was that they could be filled with any type of **** possible,we have to stick together on this and keep fighting and get these removed and replaced for free cos i certainly aint going down without a fight,they have t reated us like guinea pigs:mad: if france and england can replace them then why not ireland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:confused:

    Hi Sheba12,
    totally understand your anger and some of the women at the end of the call lines to the UK don't exactly improve your mood!

    I'll pm you the direct number for Dublin, if you ring after about 5.30pm you will def get through to someone (think they are open until 8.30pm). But to be honest, you prob won't get much satisfaction from them until you have your scan results......best of luck with it.....


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