Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Your Airbag

Just popped in this morning to catch up on all the latest. Why has this suddenly become the Liverpool thread?

kryogen

Someone mentioned Suarez name, the pagers went off.

Bodhisopha

Your Airbag wrote: »

Just popped in this morning to catch up on all the latest. Why has this suddenly become the Liverpool thread?

Because Man U fans are rattled, they are obsessed. Liverpool's carling cup heroics has them quaking in their boots.

homerjay2005

lol, didnt have to wait long.

that olly lad is a genius.

Your Airbag

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Because Man U fans are rattled, they are obsessed. Liverpool's carling cup heroics has them quaking in their boots.

:pac:

But seriously, why all the Pool talk?

Cantona's Collars

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Because Man U fans are rattled, they are obsessed. Liverpool's carling cup heroics has them quaking in their boots.

We're still waiting for "Next year" to arrive.

kryogen

Your Airbag wrote: »

:pac:

But seriously, why all the Pool talk?

Seriously

kryogen wrote: »

Someone mentioned Suarez name, the pagers went off.

dahat

Your Airbag wrote: »

:pac:

But seriously, why all the Pool talk?

Cos they won this.........

Orando Broom

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Love this picture.

Jaysus! Seriously? He looks like he's spying on women! It's a bit WTF, TBF.

Cantona's Collars

Guess who christened it the "Mickey Mouse Cup":rolleyes: But now it's the bestest most important cup in the world ever and the launchpad for years of dominance in football.
As I type,Messi,Ronaldo,Hazard,Goetze have put in transfer requests in a bid to join this revolution.

Back to reality.....mid table,game raising club win a minor trophy against a team from a lower division,meh.

Your Airbag

Jones doing the robot Sunday



Giggs breast feeding



And finally Giggs orgasam face

Cantona's Collars

Theo Walcott doing ballboy in that Giggs pic looks happy.

JerryHandbag

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Because Man U fans are rattled, they are obsessed. Liverpool's carling cup heroics has them quaking in their boots.

kryogen

Jones' crazy arms celebration had me pissing myself, it was hilarious!

Bodhisopha

Y'all shook!

Samba

Your Airbag wrote: »

And finally Giggs orgasam face

hah, spot the zombie.

kryogen

Found him!

nicklauski

Bottom left? Looking away from the celebrations and being very pale? That fella

JimsAlterEgo

zerks wrote: »

Guess who christened it the "Mickey Mouse Cup":rolleyes: But now it's the bestest most important cup in the world ever and the launchpad for years of dominance in football.
As I type,Messi,Ronaldo,Hazard,Goetze have put in transfer requests in a bid to join this revolution.

Back to reality.....mid table,game raising club win a minor trophy against a team from a lower division,meh.

on penalties after a game of the standard of a championship playoff where their main signings from last season showed the level they are world beaters at (bar Henderson who couldn't beat eggs)

Son Of A Vidic

kryogen wrote: »

Shagging your brothers wife will ensure you are never going to be an "ideal" person

I actually had totally forgotten about that, but then such matters genuinely don't concern me. I just have a good Firewall and subconsciously filter out the negative, non-football related, irrelevant shyte surrounding players.

kryogen wrote: »

but lets be honest and not try to say he is a a saint.

Maybe others have, but I have never said nor suggested that he was ever a saint. I mean who is after all?

kryogen wrote: »

On the pitch, the only place I care about, the only place that actually concerns us as fans, he has been amazing, a model pro as you say, you cannot fault him for what he has achieved on the pitch. Off it is a different story, and the only reason it warrants mention is because he is a role model to so many.

In years to come, I will remember Giggs for what he has done on the pitch and not his exploits off it. Like the way I remember Best for his genius on the pitch and not his excess drinking of it. Personally, I think young kids will try to emulate his skill and style on the pitch rather than copy his behaviour of it.

kryogen

I would hope so too, and given that there were more kids growing up trying to emulate Best and his skills on the pitch rather then being a woman beating, cheating alcoholic, I'm inclined to agree with you.

Bodhisopha

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I actually had totally forgotten about that, but then such matters genuinely don't concern me. I just have a good Firewall and subconsciously filter out the negative, non-football related, irrelevant shyte surrounding players.



Maybe others have, but I have never said nor suggested that he was ever a saint. I mean who is after all?



In years to come, I will remember Giggs for what he has done on the pitch and not his exploits off it. Like the way I remember Best for his genius on the pitch and not his excess drinking of it. Personally, I think young kids will try to emulate his skill and style on the pitch rather than copy his behaviour of it.

I think the kids from back in the day when he was the type of player to capture a childs imagination have all grown up now.

Orando Broom

kryogen wrote: »

I would hope so too, and given that there were more kids growing up trying to emulate Best and his skills on the pitch rather then being a woman beating, cheating alcoholic, I'm inclined to agree with you.

Yep absolutely. People crying about footballers being role models are retarded. You should admire a footballer for his football ability nothing more. As a person Ryan Giggs is a reprehensible ***, nothing more nothing less. The guy has the morals of a tomcat. As a Manchester United footballer, there is simply no words to descirbe his career and contribution to United and to football in general. His professionalism and dedication to his craft should be the model for any young fella. Despite his off field issues they never once crossed the white line with him. Even that mental fortitude, to be able to turn off your personal problems should be in some skewed way an example to young players.

chips1234

lads, is it going to be near impossible to get tickets for the city game ?

Your Airbag

Pogba situation precarious.

Reports suggest he is set to agree a move to Italy.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7552791/Pogba-situation-precarious-

kryogen

Your Airbag wrote: »

Pogba situation precarious.

Reports suggest he is set to agree a move to Italy.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7552791/Pogba-situation-precarious-

There were rumours abounding last week of a move to Juventus, haven't clicked the link yet but assume its the same stuff?

I will again try to stay away from the speculation until there is something official from the club, himself or Fergie.

Christ on a bike, having read the link I see his agent is the same as Balotellis? That can not be a good thing.

It looks like agent talk, but now I know who his agent is I would be more inclined to believe he is on his way alright.

Even in the link it says the contracts talks are on going with the club, still a wait and see, nothing more we can do anyway sure!

Leiva

Your Airbag wrote: »

Pogba situation precarious.

Reports suggest he is set to agree a move to Italy.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7552791/Pogba-situation-precarious-

Stinks of agent shiit stirring .

Some of em really are subhuman greedy gits.

Son Of A Vidic

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Because Man U fans are rattled, they are obsessed. Liverpool's carling cup heroics has them quaking in their boots.

Mr Alan

kryogen wrote: »

Seriously though, do you have a Suarez alert beeper that goes off anytime his name is mentioned!??

Suarez & Rafa. Yes. Yes I do.

J. Marston

JimsAlterEgo wrote: »

on penalties after a game of the standard of a championship playoff where their main signings from last season showed the level they are world beaters at (bar Henderson who couldn't beat eggs)

Credit where it's due. Downing really took Cardiff's 46 year old full-back to the cleaners.

Anyway, been reading that Valencia could be back for Sunday. Hope it's true.

kryogen

Bit off topic lads, but where is Boggles these days?

JimsAlterEgo

J. Marston wrote: »

Credit where it's due. Downing really took Cardiff's 46 year old full-back to the cleaners.

thats my point - thats his level

Morzadec

Ok, I'll bite...

J. Marston wrote: »

Credit where it's due. Downing really took Cardiff's 46 year old full-back to the cleaners.

McNaughton, despite his misleading grey hair, is a sprightly 29 years of age.

JimsAlterEgo wrote: »

thats my point - thats his level

If that's his level (Championship) then why was he Villa's outstanding player last year? Why was he Middlesborough's outstanding player when they were in the Premiership and pushing for the Europa League? Why has he been capped 32 times for England?

Downing's form has been largely poor for Liverpool this season, but seriously to claim he is a Championship level player is a laughable opinion

Mr Alan

kryogen wrote: »

Bit off topic lads, but where is Boggles these days?

I killed him.

He's buried in my garden.

kryogen

Downing, capped 32 times for England, mystery to most, but then again they are not drowning in left sided midfielders are they!

How many caps does Phil Neville have do you think and he gets put down a hell of a lot.

Wouldnt use England caps to prove anything, Heskey?

Downing is a good winger, for whatever reason he hasnt settled yet at Liverpool, he isnt in the top 5 in the world or anything, but he is adequate, he used to be able to beat his man and put a decent cross in. For whatever reason, tactic, confidence, it hasnt worked at Liverpool. Might get better under the next manager.

kryogen

Mr Alan wrote: »

I killed him.

He's buried in my garden.

That kinda makes me sad. So many more deserving candidates on the boards!

By all means, take Boggles away, but only after taking a few others first!

Morzadec

kryogen wrote: »

Downing, capped 32 times for England, mystery to most, but then again they are not drowning in left sided midfielders are they!

How many caps does Phil Neville have do you think and he gets put down a hell of a lot.

Wouldnt use England caps to prove anything, Heskey?

Downing is a good winger, for whatever reason he hasnt settled yet at Liverpool, he isnt in the top 5 in the world or anything, but he is adequate, he used to be able to beat his man and put a decent cross in. For whatever reason, tactic, confidence, it hasnt worked at Liverpool. Might get better under the next manager.

Jesus no way am I claiming that.

He's a decent winger, and would easily be a star for about 10-12 sides in the Premiership so all I was pointing out was that people claiming the Championship is his level were very wrong.

I agree his form hasn't been the best. I would put it down mostly to confidence and belief, as one of his main problems is that he hasn't actually been trying to beat his man and take him on for pace.

I will wait until the end of the season to judge him, because I feel he showed some glimpses of quality in his first few games as well as the last couple, but I would imagine we will still have to improve on the wing positions if we are to get back in the CL

kryogen

You more than likely will, but in fairness, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't expect him to be getting much praise in the United thread or from United fans in general? It is football fan nature to put the opposition down!

RasTa

Get out of this thread Downing!

Mr Alan

kryogen wrote: »

For whatever reason, tactic, confidence, it hasnt worked at Liverpool. Might get better under the next manager.

You wanna join Boggles?

DM_7

I was reading that David Fox (Norwich) used to be at united. I don't remember him but it got me thinking about other former united academy players playing in the premier league for other clubs. At least 15 more players I could think of (that includes Brown, Neville, JOS though). Would that be typical for an academy or a high amount?

others were - Shawcross, Richardson, Gibson, Eagles, Campbell, Ebanks Blake, Bardsley, Simpson, Tate, Wilson, Jones. Higginbottom is on loan to Forest but a stoke player and I think Pilkington may have played for Uniteds academy at some point.

*This topic may not be that interesting but far more interesting than people talking about Liverpool in this thread.

kryogen

Pretty sure its a high amount, coming through the ranks at United, even if you dont make it at the club, gives you a very good chance of having a good career elsewhere.

Excellent coaching at youth level.

DM_7

Also the Championship has a healthy number of ex United Academy players.

I think Hull have 4 and two more on loan.

stesaurus

I remember a report about it sometime last year. Basically only Real and Barca were ahead of United in terms of former academy players still playing within their league systems. United ahead of all other english clubs.

Of course I may have actually dreamt this.

kryogen

Wasn't aware that the Madrid academy had such a high production rate considering the policies employed by successive boards/presidents/managers

VW 1

kryogen wrote: »

Wasn't aware that the Madrid academy had such a high production rate considering the policies employed by successive boards/presidents/managers

You could be surprised how many pass through. For example Callejon played for Madrid B left the club and after a few years 'came home' when he had developed further. I'm sure that's just one of many stories of a player not progressing past the B team and going on to have a career in La Liga. Especially when you consider Madrid or Barca will have the pick of all young Spaniards.

Blatter

kryogen wrote: »

Wasn't aware that the Madrid academy had such a high production rate considering the policies employed by successive boards/presidents/managers

Oh yeah, Real have an outstanding youth academy. As you alluded to, the problem is that most don't get a fair shot at the first team! Although they do make a lot of money from it by selling them.

Granero, Mata, Soldado, Callejon, Negredo, Javi Garcia all came through the Real youth ranks recently and obviously they have produced the likes of Casillas, Raul, Guti and Arbeloa as well.

homerjay2005

who is not away for international duty this week? should give us an idea of who is fresh for sunday...we always seem to have difficult games after international breaks and always seem to drop points. id take a draw sunday though to be honest, but its a game we can win.

rio, park,carrick, giggs, scholes, carrick, rooney, berba all are not playing midweek anyway, cleverly then is injured.

what about the others?

Pro. F

kryogen wrote: »

Bit off topic lads, but where is Boggles these days?

He bet his forum access on something (can't remember what) with another poster (can't remember who) and lost. We all learned not to make silly bets!

kryogen

Was that the bet with CHD, who I also don't ever see in these parts anymore?

I vaguely remember a prop bet between the two, don't actually remember what it was about though!