Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

adox

Blatter wrote: »

So basically tribalism then? That kind of stuff is largely relevant to Liverpool as well, but in a different sense. Ferguson won't want Dalglish getting one up on him and nor will he want to give him the chance to do so by playing a weakened team.

No I didn't mean tribalism at all, more an indirect statement from either team on their league title pedigree and intention.

If was about tribalism the Liverpool game would be top of my list.

OctavarIan

I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if Pogba plays against Liverpool or Stoke.

Patsy fyre

If we put out a weakened team and lose then the City result will not count for much.

Blatter

adox wrote: »

No I didn't mean tribalism at all, more an indirect statement from either team on their league title pedigree and intention.

If was about tribalism the Liverpool game would be top of my list.

I know you didn't mention the word tribalism, but talking about statements of intent against massive rivals is a form of tribalism.

I reckon Fergie's plan is to go pretty much all out v Liverpool, rest a few key players v Stoke but still put out a strong enough team that should beat them and then have the team fresh for Chelsea away the following Sunday.

Stoke have a miserable away record against big teams so that should be taken into consideration when resting players.

DM_7

I wouldn't risk anyone carrying a knock into this game.

I wouldn't risk anyone carrying a knock into ANY game with so many games left to play.

United will use the squad players to fill gaps left by the injured players. Mitch already suggested the team could be like the one v Arsenal last season.

Maybe Lordgoat was a bit ott saying play the kids. But using the squad players makes perfect sense. Park, Hernandez, Rafael, fabio all need game time while guys like Rooney and Carrick need the rest.

Orando Broom

Trilla wrote: »

I agree, but I think we don't have enough of these characters.

Liverpool in Anfield, in the cup, whatever the state their team or form is a massive test for any player imo.

I ****ing HATE when I do that.

if United don't have the characters then forget about the league title to be honest. Liverpool are ****e, their players are poor, their 'legends' past it. If United honestly can't go out there with second string and match them, **** it they'll win nothing. There is millions of pounds with of fit United players still available, internationals; matching Liverpool should not be a problem. They are missing enough of their own top performers too.

DM_7

Without being that dismissive of the opposition, I do agree with the point that Uniteds squad players are good players in their own right. That should not be forgotten and they are more than capable of performing on the day.

Kylo Ren

The thing about Liverpool is they could get beat 6-0 the week before and win the next week against United. They always play hard against United, even if they're squad leaves something to be desired, they deserve more respect than that.

Kylo Ren

Owen just got his level 3 coaching badge. He can now manage at League 2 level.

kmart6

And I'd say he's left him self open for dogs abuse with that tweet! League 2 fans saying they wouldn't have him etc....! But not in such a friendly manner!

MagicMarker

Doesn't strike me as someone who'd be a good manager tbh. He said earlier that he's been coaching Utd's under 14's, imagine being coached by Michael Owen?

Wanna feel old? Some of them probably weren't even alive for this magical moment! :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFcTVlLj8Q4

DOC09UNAM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Doesn't strike me as someone who'd be a good manager tbh. He said earlier that he's been coaching Utd's under 14's, imagine being coached by Michael Owen?

Wanna feel old? Some of them probably weren't even alive for this magical moment! :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFcTVlLj8Q4

My maths mightn't be the strongest, but none of them would have been born if it's u14s? :pac:



Dunno about him as a coach either really, although he can't be ruled out unless given a chance somewhere.

MagicMarker

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

My maths mightn't be the strongest, but none of them would have been born if it's u14s? :pac:

It's only January and that goal was scored in the Summer of '98, which means it happened approx 13.5 years ago, ya fúcking smart arse. :pac:

DM_7

Keno 92 wrote: »

The thing about Liverpool is they could get beat 6-0 the week before and win the next week against United. They always play hard against United, even if they're squad leaves something to be desired, they deserve more respect than that.

Especially when the reasoning used is United squad players are international that cost millions.

What are Liverpools players again? They have some very good players and its foolish to think otherwise.

I am certain SAF won't be thinking otherwise.

Orando Broom

DM-ICE wrote: »

Especially when the reasoning used is United squad players are international that cost millions.

What are Liverpools players again? They have some very good players and its foolish to think otherwise.

I am certain SAF won't be thinking otherwise.

There's a serious amount of dross in that Liverpool squad. It's the product of six years of mismanagement. United's squad for all its faults is a Ferguson squad.

Orando Broom

DM-ICE wrote: »

Especially when the reasoning used is United squad players are international that cost millions.

What are Liverpools players again? They have some very good players and its foolish to think otherwise.

I am certain SAF won't be thinking otherwise.

16 players out of thirty I'd recokon could be classed as internationals.

homerjay2005

anybody that honestly expects united to win comfortably on sat is away with the fairies.

personally i think we will manage a draw and do well to get it.

Orando Broom

homerjay2005 wrote: »

anybody that honestly expects united to win comfortably on sat is away with the fairies.

personally i think we will manage a draw and do well to get it.

Don't think anybody thinks that but United's second team should have the match for a lot of this Liverpool first team. A draw would've a great result, but United should be able to match them every step of the way.

Son Of A Vidic

newballsplease wrote: »

You couldnt be a real UTD fan if you think loseing ANY match to liverpool isnt a big deal. Mickey mouse cup, FA cup whatever match.....

So you think Lordgoat isn't a United fan? Get a grip will ya. Sick of this "Are you sure your're a fan" type shyte cropping up again.

lordgoat wrote: »

we could be playing argentina in the FA cup and this season i couldn't give a ****. We don't have enough players right now so it's an easy decision for me. League>any other competition we're in right now.

I'm tending to agree with you there, the league has got to be the priority for us. When you look at the injury nightmare we've had all season, our position is excellent. This despite a season also littered with a few shyte performances.

If we can clear the injury list and get the lads back, then we should get the usual title run in groove going. City might crumble because if they can't break away from us when we are on our knees, then they're fúcked when we get off them.

greendom

Griffin1988 wrote: »

Would £35m+ I would imagine to get him, but would be some combination with Rooney.

Arsenal wouldn't even swap him for Rooney. Dream on

Mr Alan

Some serious arrogance on display in here tonight

J. Marston

Mr Alan wrote: »

Some serious arrogance on display in here tonight

homerjay2005

Mr Alan wrote: »

Some serious arrogance on display in here tonight

by who?

MagicMarker

I wonder if Clyne will leave Palace during this window now?

eugeneious

Former Utd 'keeper Tom Heaton was the hero for Cardiff there...

MagicMarker

Does anyone else hate the Utd website? I think it's awful.

Anyone hear about Brighton planning to make a bid for Owen? I'd say unless he could go to another EPL side then he'd retire.

Jax Teller

Yeah I hate the united website . It's stupid they usually have small enough articles spread across 2 pages .

Corvo

greendom wrote: »

Arsenal wouldn't even swap him for Rooney. Dream on

Bet you thought that Nasri, Clichy, Toure, Flamini, Fabregas, Hleb and Adebayor would never leave too

Van Persie is next.

homerjay2005

the united website is crap enough, i only use it for away tickets really, nothing else on it.

i mean ffs, they put news from teh daily main and the sun on their front page....they should have regular interviews with players, better youth/reserve features etc etc. they used to do an away days section that they stopped and alot of good things, so it seems to have gone down hill.

_blank_

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the united website is crap enough, i only use it for away tickets really, nothing else on it.

i mean ffs, they put news from teh daily main and the sun on their front page....they should have regular interviews with players, better youth/reserve features etc etc. they used to do an away days section that they stopped and alot of good things, so it seems to have gone down hill.

Remember what I used to call it?

stovelid

Orando Broom wrote: »

That is fine but this cretin has to realise that the tripe he is writing alienates foreign supporters..

LOL

Nalz

The whole layout of the site is awful. Looks like a glossed up 4th year college project.

Des wrote: »

Remember what I used to call it?

Go on...

_blank_

Propaganda dot com

homerjay2005

Des wrote: »

Remember what I used to call it?

i would think all sites are the same. can only imagine the liverpool site being full of political correctness:pac:

Griffin1988

Griffin1988 wrote: »

greendom wrote: »

Arsenal wouldn't even swap him for Rooney. Dream on

Bet you thought that Nasri, Clichy, Toure, Flamini, Fabregas, Hleb and Adebayor would never leave too

Van Persie is next.

I don't believe he's saying that he thinks Van Persie won't leave.

Just that he won't be going to United, and he's right.

Al Capwned

Regarding the team for the Liverpool game, I was of the opinion that this i s Liverpool, put out our best 11 and beat them - just cos it was Liverpool.

But with next league game coming soon after - one post has changed my opinion

VW 1 wrote: »

I'd rather lose in the FA cup to Liverpool than to lose the league to city

League has to take priority, and if it means trusting a 'weakened' team to take care of the cup game at the weekend, to ensure we have the best possible chance of three points in the Stoke game, then I believe that is what must be done....

Blatter

flah closed his account yesterday. I know he was serving a ban anyway but it's a big loss to the forum.

He was an excellent contributor and will be missed

MagicMarker

That's unfortunate, he was a great contributor to the thread!

Professey Chin

Blatter wrote: »

flah closed his account yesterday. I know he was serving a ban anyway but it's a big loss to the forum.

He was an excellent contributor and will be missed

Fallen homies

Al Capwned

Blatter wrote: »

flah closed his account yesterday. I know he was serving a ban anyway but it's a big loss to the forum.

He was an excellent contributor and will be missed

Am sorry to hear that - isn't he the second major contributor in a few days to close an account - tommyhaas???

kstand

Looking at the fixtures in the League between now and the end of the season, its going to be very hard to stay on City's coat tails up to the derby on April 28th. United are going to have to take at least 7 points from the trips to Chelsea and Tottenham as well as the home fixture with Liverpool as well as a full 3 points from the Norwich game at Carrow Road which has proved difficult for teams this season. A good run in the cup is very important - get over Liverpool on Saturday and it's there for the taking. I'd scrap the Europa League, its a joke competition anyway and concentrate on the domestic double which will be a huge ask.

Vertigo100

Blatter wrote: »

flah closed his account yesterday. I know he was serving a ban anyway but it's a big loss to the forum.

He was an excellent contributor and will be missed

Any idea why?

Blatter

Vertigo100 wrote: »

Any idea why?

Not sure, he didn't seem he was really enjoying it as much as he used to, possibly had stuff in real life to attend to as well, who knows.. Hopefully he returns one day under a new account.

Vertigo100

Blatter wrote: »

Not sure, he didn't seem he was really enjoying it as much as he used to, possibly had stuff in real life to attend to as well, who knows.. Hopefully he returns one day under a new account.

Agree. I'm more of a lurker here but always enjoyed flahs posts

Maximus Alexander

Vertigo100 wrote: »

Agree. I'm more of a lurker here but always enjoyed flahs posts

Same, I'm only new here but have been lurking for about a year.

Himself and keane2097 are two of my favourite posters with their low bullshít tolerance thresholds and dry, scathing, oft witty responses.

I had looked forward to being on the receiving end of his abuse.

wheres me jumpa

Maybe he will come out of retirement in the future if the thread gets really poor and there is no sign of new arrivals to improve the situation.

adox

Blatter wrote: »

flah closed his account yesterday. I know he was serving a ban anyway but it's a big loss to the forum.

He was an excellent contributor and will be missed

That is a shame. I had some disputes with him last summer over his posting style in regards to his attitude to posters speculating on possible signings, but apart from that we pretty much agreed on most things.

He`ll be missed thats for sure.

Kylo Ren

Blatter wrote: »

flah closed his account yesterday. I know he was serving a ban anyway but it's a big loss to the forum.

He was an excellent contributor and will be missed

Ah feck sake. I was only looking at the thread on closing your account too.

Adios my Waterford brethren

DOC09UNAM

Ah for **** sake.

I'll miss his posts, well capable of banter and always fairly on the ball regards united.

keane2097

LeighH wrote: »

Same, I'm only new here but have been lurking for about a year.

Himself and keane2097 are two of my favourite posters with their low bullshít tolerance thresholds and dry, scathing, oft witty responses.

I had looked forward to being on the receiving end of his abuse.

I can abuse you if you want - I know it won't be the same but still...