Is Michael Buble the Bubluonic plague of popular music?

Sinfonia

Rigsby wrote: »

Nope, the point still has not sunk in with you.

IMO, it is always about perception. How a person perceives a given music will determine whether that music is great or sh**e, but only in THAT PERSON'S (the previous two words seems to be where you are missing the point) mind. Someone else might have a different perception on the exact same music, with a completely different result, again only in THAT PERSON'S mind. Either way, the perception is always there.

I think what he's getting at is that it doesn't take much knowledge, skill, talent or craft with respect to musicianship to sing songs that are covers or otherwise built on hackneyed ideas in an acceptable but by no means outstanding voice.

Rigsby

Sinfonia wrote: »

I think what he's getting at is that it doesn't take much knowledge, skill, talent or craft with respect to musicianship to sing songs that are covers or otherwise built on hackneyed ideas in an acceptable but by no means outstanding voice.

I accept your point. However, music does not have to be skillful, talented, or complex to appeal to people. Granted, that type of music where musicians put in work, writing, performing, and trying to be original is much more deserving of appreciation, but such is the human perception of music, that we all know this is not always the case.

All I am saying is that if a person likes any type of music, for whatever reason, then in their eyes/ears it is good, and I say good luck to them.

MrStuffins

Rigsby wrote: »

Nope, the point still has not sunk in with you.

IMO, it is always about perception. How a person perceives a given music will determine whether that music is great or sh**e, but only in THAT PERSON'S (the previous two words seems to be where you are missing the point) mind. Someone else might have a different perception on the exact same music, with a completely different result, again only in THAT PERSON'S mind. Either way, the perception is always there.

:rolleyes:

Lad, I DO get the point. It has sunk in well! I just bloody disagree with you!

Rigsby

MrStuffins wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Lad, I DO get the point. It has sunk in well!

At last... !!! Took awhile !

We'll agree to disagree then.

MrStuffins

MrStuffins wrote: »

While I understand your post, and I kinda agree,

MrStuffins wrote: »

Look, I get your point. I understand your train of thought.

MrStuffins wrote: »

I get the points. I completely understand.

MrStuffins wrote: »

Lad, I DO get the point. It has sunk in well! I just bloody disagree with you!

Rigsby wrote: »

At last... !!! Took awhile !

We'll agree to disagree then.

Er........... yeah. At last

Rigsby

MrStuffins wrote: »

Er........... yeah. At last

Yes. You said you understood, but some of the accompanying posts to those quotes suggested otherwise.

Over and out !!

MrStuffins

Rigsby wrote: »

Yes. You said you understood, but some of the accompanying posts to those quotes suggested otherwise.

Over and out !!

Yes, I said I understood. Which would imply that my comments to the contrary meant that I just disagreed no?

I don't know how many times it was necessary for me to say I understood!

karaokeman

In the words of Noel Gallagher "Music is all about perception of the listener", that is the bottom line as a few posters here have pointed out.

I don't know why there is always such bickering about it.

I can't stand The (un)Wanted and they are dire to me but there are other people who like them so I cannot be qualified to say they shouldn't be making music. Sure I don't enjoy what they create but the world doesn't revolve around me.

Michael Buble, I like some of his songs but admittedly he's not the best showman who ever lived. Maybe some people think he's up there with Sinatra, Elvis and Diamond but thats just their opinion and they should be entitled to it.

MrStuffins

karaokeman wrote: »

In the words of Noel Gallagher "Music is all about perception of the listener", that is the bottom line as a few posters here have pointed out.

I don't know why there is always such bickering about it.

I can't stand The (un)Wanted and they are dire to me but there are other people who like them so I cannot be qualified to say they shouldn't be making music. Sure I don't enjoy what they create but the world doesn't revolve around me.

Michael Buble, I like some of his songs but admittedly he's not the best showman who ever lived. Maybe some people think he's up there with Sinatra, Elvis and Diamond but thats just their opinion and they should be entitled to it.

This is true and I wasn't talking about The Wanted, Justin Bieber etc who people always claim are sh*t and who are actually just not to their taste.

But to say that there is no such thing as bad music just because a couple of people might like it is not true in my opinion!

daveyeh

Rigsby wrote: »

I accept your point. However, music does not have to be skillful, talented, or complex to appeal to people.

Bono? Is that you?

walshb

Rigsby wrote: »

Fair comment, as this is how you perceive his music. For the record, I'm not a fan of his either. The reason why he is popular ? Others perceive him differently to us. No mystery there.

Absolutely. I just think he is so so bland. Same way I think Subo and Mary Byrne are so so bland. People like it, so be it. Not for me. One thing I hate is musical snobbery. I don't give a toss who sings it, writes it, or composes it, if it hits MY ears, and I am moved, I will say so. Too many people have closed minds when they hear a piece of music or if it's associated with a particular person. They cannot separate the music, and the voice, from the person and the genre. It's downright silly.

I hate hearing this "guilty pleasure" crap from people. Take Abba for example. Fantastic band, great performers, singers, and amazing tracks, yet many folks seem to think it's odd to like them?:rolleyes:

Also, many folks cannot separate a good singer, great singer, from a good writer, or great writer. Bob Dylan could write songs, but I wouldn't cross the road to listen to him singing them. Elvis wrote nothing, but boy god could he deliver a vocal performance.

Westlife. Wrote nothing and play nothing, but so what. They can perform, and at least two of them are fine singers.

You always hear, "They don't play instruments and can't write their own material." So ****ing what. I listen to a CD to hear music and to listen to a singing of a tune. I don't give a toss who wrote it.