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Christmas Working Hours

  • 24-12-2011 1:14am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭


    o/

    I'm currently working in retail, and I've been rostered in Christmas Eve,Stephens Day,Tuesday(Which is a bank holiday as Stephens Day is on the monday?) and then New Years Eve.

    I'm fully expecting to be put in New Years Day. So that would be basically 5 holiday days I would be in for where as people are only in for one or two. If I do get put in I will argue that it's unfair that I've to work all the holiday days.

    As I'm only a Christmas temp I expect them to say that i'm new here etc etc.

    I would argue that with why would I want to work for a company which is unfair and favoritism goes to people who work there longer. I would understand if they wanted me in New Years Day and gave me another one of the days off but that is not the case.

    So any suggestion if they do put me in that they? Any Valid arguments I can use ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    you're a christmas temp, and you're complaining about having to work...over christmas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Dotrel


    Shure aren't you lucky to have christmas job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    Should be lucky you have a job:D

    /too late again ...damn goes those precious thanks ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭SteoL


    o/

    I'm currently working in retail, and I've been rostered in Christmas Eve,Stephens Day,Tuesday(Which is a bank holiday as Stephens Day is on the monday?) and then New Years Eve.

    I'm fully expecting to be put in New Years Day. So that would be basically 5 holiday days I would be in for where as people are only in for one or two. If I do get put in I will argue that it's unfair that I've to work all the holiday days.

    As I'm only a Christmas temp I expect them to say that i'm new here etc etc.

    I would argue that with why would I want to work for a company which is unfair and favoritism goes to people who work there longer. I would understand if they wanted me in New Years Day and gave me another one of the days off but that is not the case.

    So any suggestion if they do put me in that they? Any Valid arguments I can use ?


    If I were a Christmas temp and facing unemployment in Jan I would work as many hours possible in order to have a few quid in the bank for when I finished up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    you're a christmas temp, and you're complaining about having to work...over christmas?

    I'm not complaining, I'm no problem working the hours at Christmas. I do have family and would like to spend them with them on Christmas and or New Years, how am I expected to do that if I'm working on all the holiday days? And if you want to get technical, New Years isn't Christmas.

    A little common sense please.
    Dotrel wrote: »
    Shure aren't you lucky to have christmas job.

    :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    o/

    I'm currently working in retail, and I've been rostered in Christmas Eve,Stephens Day,Tuesday(Which is a bank holiday as Stephens Day is on the monday?) and then New Years Eve.

    I'm fully expecting to be put in New Years Day. So that would be basically 5 holiday days I would be in for where as people are only in for one or two. If I do get put in I will argue that it's unfair that I've to work all the holiday days.

    As I'm only a Christmas temp I expect them to say that i'm new here etc etc.

    I would argue that with why would I want to work for a company which is unfair and favoritism goes to people who work there longer. I would understand if they wanted me in New Years Day and gave me another one of the days off but that is not the case.

    So any suggestion if they do put me in that they? Any Valid arguments I can use ?

    Suck it up for Christ sake.

    You pay your dues when you're at the bottom of the food chain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭senorwipesalot


    Get the flu.
    Sure tis all the rage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    I know it sounds sucky but wont you get triple time. Think of what you could do with all that moneys!! (The 's' in money is on purpose.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve are not holidays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Dotrel


    :rolleyes:

    Excellent point. Clearly you've been a practitioner in the debating arts for some time now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I'm not complaining, I'm no problem working the hours at Christmas. I do have family and would like to spend them with them on Christmas and or New Years, how am I expected to do that if I'm working on all the holiday days? And if you want to get technical, New Years isn't Christmas.

    A little common sense please.

    :rolleyes:

    but it is common sense. when I worked in retail, the christmas staff we took on finished up on New Years day. makes sense to me, for a christmas job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Mr.S wrote: »
    You where hired to help with the increased amount of customers during the Christmas period. What did you expect when you applied?!!

    Which is exactly what I have been doing, I've been working 30+ hours each week since I was hired, getting the minimum days of yep grand doesn't bother me. But when I wish for 1 day off I'm the biggest cúnt in the world?

    Ah yes, makes sense...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    You could always make up an elaborate lie about pressing engagements you cannot avoid, most employers will try to accomodate you. Otherwise swap shifts or pull a sickie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    You have no argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Sorry, but that is exactly what is expected from a christmas temp. You do have to earn things like choicest holidays over time. I'm surprised you and your employer didn't discuss this before two days before christmas, don't even bother discussing it now, if you hope to get a reference or further employment from hem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    I know it sounds sucky but wont you get triple time. Think of what you could do with all that moneys!! (The 's' in money is on purpose.)

    Double time on Stephens day and New Year's Eve that's it.
    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve are not holidays.

    In Retail they are, because if you book Christmas off, it falls under Christmas Eve and Stephens Day.
    Dotrel wrote: »
    Excellent point. Clearly you've been a practitioner in the debating arts for some time now.

    It wasn't luck that I got my job in the first place. That's why I did the eye roll.
    but it is common sense. when I worked in retail, the christmas staff we took on finished up on New Years day. makes sense to me, for a christmas job.

    It depends on the contract and when it's up. I've worked before and my Christmas Contract was up Christmas Eve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    Ah another thread where nobody can see me. Im starting to fade away away. . .

    But am I right about the triple pay? Do I sound like a money obsessed ****?
    If so then sorry, it's just one of my friends is doing a 12 hour shift on Christmas and is saying he will get like 360 Euro for it.

    Sounds like a nice trade

    EDIT: Just saw your response. Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    It depends on the contract and when it's up. I've worked before and my Christmas Contract was up Christmas Eve.

    yes of course it depends on the contract, but if you're down to work new years then obviously your contract goes on longer.

    :confused: not getting the issue here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭rotinaj


    Boo hoo! I'm on a full time permanent contract and I have to do 12 hour shifts on xmas day and stephens day plus10pm to 4am over new years night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    If you have a problem with unsociable hours, get out of retail. I did it for 4 years and each Christmas I had a headache trying to string 2 consecutive days off together.
    Put up with it for the sake of the dough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Ah another thread where nobody can see me. Im starting to fade away away. . .

    But am I right about the triple pay? Do I sound like a money obsessed ****?
    If so then sorry, it's just one of my friends is doing a 12 hour shift on Christmas and is saying he will get like 360 Euro for it.

    Sounds like a nice trade

    I replied to your post scroll up :P
    yes of course it depends on the contract, but if you're down to work new years then obviously your contract goes on longer.

    :confused: not getting the issue here

    My contract goes past New Years. That doesn't necessarily mean I should have to work New Years Day was my point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I replied to your post scroll up :P



    My contract goes past New Years. That doesn't necessarily mean I should have to work New Years Day was my point.

    but the point of being a christmas temp / seasonal temp is that you cover all the extra days that need covering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    but the point of being a christmas temp / seasonal temp is that you cover all the extra days that need covering.

    If it was just to cover the extra days, then it would be understandable, but it's not with my job anyway. I'm working 30-40+ hours a week.(And No I'm not complaining simply stating to prove my point)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭rotinaj


    Ah another thread where nobody can see me. Im [SIZE="3"]starting to[/SIZE] [SIZE="2"]fade away[/SIZE] [SIZE="1"]away[/SIZE]. . .

    But am I right about the triple pay? Do I sound like a money obsessed ****?
    If so then sorry, it's just one of my friends is doing a 12 hour shift on Christmas and is saying he will get like 360 Euro for it.

    Sounds like a nice trade

    EDIT: Just saw your response. Thanks.


    Meh triple pay isnt worth it. I get €66 per hour for xmas day but I would give it up ina heartbeat if someone was willing to swap with me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    If it was just to cover the extra days, then it would be understandable, but it's not with my job anyway. I'm working 30-40+ hours a week.(And No I'm not complaining simply stating to prove my point)

    but what is your point? what do you mean it's not your job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    I finished up my job in retail last week after 7 years. So FINALLY have a Christmas Eve off and the week after. :D:D

    Won't know what to do with myself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    but what is your point? what do you mean it's not your job?

    You were implying my job is to just cover shifts so to speak.Implying that because I'm a Christmas temp I should be working New Years Eve. If that's the case why isn't every Christmas temp not in? Or the majority of them? Other temps are off both, which I deem as unfair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve are not holidays.

    They certainly arent.

    You will be owed a day in lieu, which you are entitled to take within am month, for working St Stephen's Day and New Years Day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    You were implying my job is to just cover shifts so to speak.Implying that because I'm a Christmas temp I should be working New Years Eve. If that's the case why isn't every Christmas temp not in? Or the majority of them? Other temps are off both, which I deem as unfair.

    no, most temps would do a full 40 hour week. it's up to your employer what hours you work. but taking on a seasonal job, you should expect to work all the awkward hours. all you can do is ask someone to swap with you, but I don't think you're in much of a position to argue tbh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    In short, OP what the good people of AH are saying is that if you're looking for sympathy you'll find it between shit and syphilis in the dictionary!.

    You won't find it here, I promise you that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    no, most temps would do a full 40 hour week. it's up to your employer what hours you work. but taking on a seasonal job, you should expect to work all the awkward hours. all you can do is ask someone to swap with you, but I don't think you're in much of a position to argue tbh.

    Aye, I see where your coming from.

    I think my only argument is why some temps have both off and I have to work both.

    Cheers for the opinion anyway :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    I finished up my job in retail last week after 7 years. So FINALLY have a Christmas Eve off and the week after. :D:D

    Won't know what to do with myself!

    My first Christmas out of retail too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    You were implying my job is to just cover shifts so to speak.Implying that because I'm a Christmas temp I should be working New Years Eve. If that's the case why isn't every Christmas temp not in? Or the majority of them? Other temps are off both, which I deem as unfair.

    2007 called.
    It want's it sense of entitlement back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    "hic....hic.." Stupidtheslayer........ Shanousername " hic " seee what I done




    stupid Linden Village makin me drunk[SIZE="1"][/SIZE]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    In short, OP what the good people of AH are saying is that if you're looking for sympathy you'll find it between shit and syphilis in the dictionary!.

    You won't find it here, I promise you that.

    I wasn't looking for sympathy I've been reading AH too long to believe the AH'ers are sympathetic


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭ActingDanClark


    Tough.
    Consider what a garda will encounter on Christmas day, and nothing extra because its a Sunday so they get a sunday allowance which works out at about e60 for a garda on max pay. A garda working new years eve night 10pm to 6am will get about e10 more (saturday allowance) than he got for working a Wednesday night in august


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    o/
    I'm currently working in retail, and I've been rostered in Christmas Eve,Stephens Day,Tuesday(Which is a bank holiday as Stephens Day is on the monday?) and then New Years Eve.

    I'm fully expecting to be put in New Years Day. So that would be basically 5 holiday days I would be in for where as people are only in for one or two. If I do get put in I will argue that it's unfair that I've to work all the holiday days.

    As I'm only a Christmas temp I expect them to say that i'm new here etc etc.

    I would argue that with why would I want to work for a company which is unfair and favoritism goes to people who work there longer. I would understand if they wanted me in New Years Day and gave me another one of the days off but that is not the case.

    So any suggestion if they do put me in that they? Any Valid arguments I can use ?

    :confused:

    Christmas temp and you're complaining that you have to work Christmas hours Haha


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 teishen


    Jesus Christ, when I was in working I wanted all the hours they sent my way!

    40 hours a week me hole. That's the minimum I'd want to have and the more the merrier! :pac: Give me the hours you don't want to work, I'd be more than happy to have them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    teishen wrote: »
    Jesus Christ, when I was in working I wanted all the hours they sent my way!

    40 hours a week me hole. That's the minimum I'd want to have and the more the merrier! :pac: Give me the hours you don't want to work, I'd be more than happy to have them.

    You can have my Stephens Day shift mate :pac:

    Bare in mind I havn't told you which retail shop :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 teishen


    You can have my Stephens Day shift mate :pac:

    Bare in mind I havn't told you which retail shop :P

    They're all pretty much the same in the end what with irritable feckers in every hour of the day complaining about the colour of the walls and the prices of everything and jaysis isn't the weather terrible out today. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    :confused:

    Christmas temp and you're complaining that you have to work Christmas hours Haha

    Read previous posts, the argument was already had


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    teishen wrote: »
    They're all pretty much the same in the end what with irritable feckers in every hour of the day complaining about the colour of the walls and the prices of everything and jaysis isn't the weather terrible out today. :pac:

    ''Warm out today'' ''Warm out yesterday'' ''Even warmer out today'' :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    ''Warm out today'' ''Warm out yesterday'' ''Even warmer out today'' :pac:

    Is this the weather forecast?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Is this the weather forecast?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Read previous posts, the argument was already had

    I did and tbh you don't deserve to even have a job with that attitude! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    o/



    I would argue that with why would I want to work for a company which is unfair and favoritism goes to people who work there longer..

    ?

    because if you work there longer, you won't be the guy that has to do the ****ty shifts in the future - do you expect to have everthing handed to you on a silver plater?

    Pay your dues buddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    I did and tbh you don't deserve to even have a job with that attitude! :mad:

    The fact I work hard 6 days a week, and would like to request 1 day off?

    Pft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I applied for a saturday job OP but the b******s wanted me to work a saturday then :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    woodoo wrote: »
    I applied for a saturday job OP but the b******s wanted me to work a saturday then :eek:

    Unbelivable Jeff! :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 460 ✭✭four18


    but what is your point? what do you mean it's not your job?
    jaysus an 8.65ph man....and its too much !


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