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Bobby Baccala

That's some pretty embarrassing stuff for wayne, and he's been described as the greatest rapper alive...

Mr. Rager

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

That's some pretty embarrassing stuff for wayne, and he's been described as the greatest rapper alive...

By himself...

mufcboy1999

Of course most of the other industry rappers jump on the bandwagon , I think kanye called him the greatest alive too but then again he called rick ross something like that a while ago.

Terrible reply from a terrible rapper.

Andy_rse

Can anybody link me, youtube or otherwise to the unedited version of Hit Em Up?

When I say unedited I dont mean with cursing in it, but the version where he mentions Lil Kim and someone else (Da Brat or Jay Z maybe?) at the end, where he says "Chino XL f*ck you too, all you motherfu*kers, fu*k you too, *edited* all you motherfu*kers, fu*k you die slow"

Cant seem to find it on youtube and am beginning to wonder if I dreamt it.

Bobby Baccala

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2suKH7gzvIg

thats the closest thing i could find.

Andy_rse

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

thats the closest thing i could find.

Yes thats what it was I was after. I must have imagined that it was the whole track I had heard.

Thanks mate!

conor.hogan.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1SyOjB2_BU

Andy_rse

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Yeah but if you listen to the released version, from 4:26-4:30 there is something missing. Some names, Jay Z, Lil Kim and Lil Cease (it sounds like them names to me anyway)

They are in this video posted by P4DDY2K11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2suKH7gzvIg

I had heard the clip that P4DDY2K11 posted a few years ago and just assumed that a full unedited version existed. I was asking for that, but it doesnt seem to be floating around anywhere.

I wonder why the names were taken out, and even if its legit?

conor.hogan.2

Just the way it was released. He was riffing at that point so I am sure he said 100s of things that didn't make the final edit.

The video above shows that his voice kinda trailed off after lil kim / cease as he almost certainly didn't write any of that down. Each 2pac song has 100 or so versions, you might find it around somewhere but it is not in the official one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrcLrBfBaDU - This shows it as fading out, which makes sense. No mention of Jay-Z though. Jay-z was only releasing singles in promo for his debut album 2pac probably tuck out the diss as he wasn't big enough at the time to warrant a diss?

Boom_Bap

the full version of Hit Em Up is on a Death Row compilation double disc thing they released.

Mr. Rager

Here we go. This song epitomizes everything wrong with hip-hop music today.

5 minutes of absolute trife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6PAfGCRLCo

mufcboy1999

I'm allergic to the feathers on them bird ass niggas :P

I hate this click with a passion everyone from Wayne and niki to Birman and Ross. Dj Kahled gets a special mention for somehow making it despite being IMO utterly talentedness.

I know Ross and Kahled have seperate groups but they may aswell be all the one with their constant collabs.

Mr. Rager

I don't understand how they can rap about how much money they've made in every song and people just lap it up. I mean, how did they make the money in the first place to rap about the all the money they made from rapping? Conspiracy perhaps? :P

mufcboy1999

Mr. Rager wrote: »

I don't understand how they can rap about how much money they've made in every song and people just lap it up. I mean, how did they make the money in the first place to rap about the all the money they made from rapping? Conspiracy perhaps? :P

To be fair I don't mind a genuine rapper from the streets who made it from telling tales of his life etc Ye it's gets repetitive but it's all most gangsta rappers can rap or even know about in terms of creativity etc.

I think gangsta rappers more so then any other kind of rapper have little room to manuver in terms of lryics etc. most come from poor backgrounds, selling drugs etc very few make it but it's the culture in most ghettos in America and it follows through in their music. If they try and change their content it's deemed selling out , if they get too rich and succesful it's deemed selling out, catch 22 in so many ways is gangsta hip hop IMO.

But rick Ross ? He was a cop that lied about absolutely everything by mimicking someone else's lifestyle but yet he's somehow relevant as a gangsta rapper because he's a product of the industry , now that my friend is a conspiracy :P as far as birdman, he's just a shocking rapper, I don't know much about him as I genii ally despise his music bar what happened to that boy ! That's a banger

mufcboy1999

this is just class, if your a hip hop fan and dont know the words to this, slap yourself!:D

will smith is a legend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFjwbKMlmF4

Bobby Baccala

Some people need to stop being so emotionally attached to Rappers. I have a mate who wont listen to 50 because the game doesn't like him, even though 50 is the better rapper. He wont listen to pac because biggie had beef with him. He only started listening to Drake recently because he says "the game likes him so he's good".

From being in his house alone i have developed a new hatred for the game, we must have listened to The documentary about 4 times in one day. And then when i put on "only built 4 cuban linx" i was told to turn it off and put the game back on, him and a few more of my friends seriously don't know what they're missing by limiting themselves to The Game and Eminems music. I pity them for not having heard some of the classics.

Oh and they also think La di da di is snoop doggs song. It's infuriating. I'm never discussing music with them again, it's just painful. :pac:

mufcboy1999

looks like will smith is back in the news a lot lately with the release of MIB 3, this is funny, will hits the reporter a little slap.

he's lucky i didnt sucker punch him lol

young jack thriller the comidian of thisis50 caught up with him, love how he winds dj kahled up too, this isnt the 1st time he got in kahleds face lol totally just takes the piss outa him.

hey kahled you gona be rapping on the new album lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cBRfjcY9SQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9SaFwuzRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYPe5SWun-A

Jimmy Iovine

Haha that's brilliant. I loved the bits with Khaled.

"The **** you lookin at? Buss a move mutha****a!"

Jimmy Iovine

Just talking to a girl I know who is down in Sydney. She said some guy was onto her about a rapper playing near her tomorrow. She couldn't remember his name.

I looked into it more though. Ghostface and MF Doom are playing on Saturday night, and Fashawn is playing in 2 weeks. I'd give my left arm to see any of them.

Worst of all though is that I've another friend who's off to New York for the summer. He hasn't a clue about rap. He could pretty much go to a different gig by a top artist every night of the week. That dude Emcee Jermaine is shooting a video for "Crazy 88" on Saturday and is just inviting people along.

I think if I was over there I'd probably explode from the amount of gigs. I know I'd run out of money after 3 weeks. I think I'll move over there in a few years for the summer and just spend all my money going to rap gigs. That should keep me going for a good while :P.

Jimmy Iovine

I'm going for three posts in a row here. Drake got destroyed on Twitter a few hours ago. Go to see him put back in his box once in a while.

Bobby Baccala

who's T.Boone Pickens?

PrettyBoy

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I'm going for three posts in a row here. Drake got destroyed on Twitter a few hours ago. Go to see him put back in his box once in a while.

Mehh..I'd hardly call that destroyed to be fair, just a witty response, really doubt it caused Drake any embarrassment.

Jimmy Iovine

Some oil billionaire from Texas. He's the 874th richest man in the world apparently. 1.5 billion dollars in the bank.

Jimmy Iovine

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Mehh..I'd hardly call that destroyed to be fair, just a witty response, really doubt it caused Drake any embarrassment.

Destroyed is too big a word. I've started to use it a lot lately though and it crept in. It's my version of "like" :P.

It'll cause him a slight bit of embarrassment. No one, especially a rapper, wants to be slagged by an 84 year-old on Twitter.

mufcboy1999

I read today that Lil Waynes next single is to ft big Sean , well so much for the beef lol. Knew this would happen, this good music v young money is laughable.

Twitter beefs again, meek mill and drake and chris brown all had a little battle over rhianna a few days ago via twitter. Meek and drake banged her and there tweets were aimed at brown , something like that not sure tbh but it was all a bit of banter in the end I think.

Btw rhianna is turning into a right slut a sexy slut that is but none the less a slut

Jimmy Iovine

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

I read today that Lil Waynes next single is to ft big Sean , well so much for the beef lol. Knew this would happen, this good music v young money is laughable.

Twitter beefs again, meek mill and drake and chris brown all had a little battle over rhianna a few days ago via twitter. Meek and drake banged her and there tweets were aimed at brown , something like that not sure tbh but it was all a bit of banter in the end I think.

Btw rhianna is turning into a right slut a sexy slut that is but none the less a slut

Until I get with her she is a very respectable young lady. After that, well I don't really care too much.

Bobby Baccala

She's probably the fittest bird on the face of this planet, I would do unforgivable things to nail Rihanna.

weemcd

Rihanna has ruined herself lads, (thank you Chris Brown) she'll do a Whitney Houston

mufcboy1999

I'd say she's filthy between the sheets, looks a right goer anyway

She has been with a load of rappers though, I remember even hearing rumours of her and eminem. There was meant to be a bit of a spark between the two on the set of love the way you lie or something like that even rhiannas mother was saying something was their between them.

I do wish some of the local sluts around my way could look like rhianna, don't get me wrong they tried with the whole dieing your hair red faze last summer but It just wasn't the same

mufcboy1999

weemcd wrote: »

Rihanna has ruined herself lads, (thank you Chris Brown) she'll do a Whitney Houston

Early signs of it anyway. If she gets back with cb then who knows what could happen.

Mr. Rager

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conor.hogan.2

I wish that that was a cool billionaire and not a BP guy, would have been a better burn.

Jimmy Iovine

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I wish that that was a cool billionaire and not a BP guy, would have been a better burn.

If you're looking for a cool billionaire then Herb Kohler is your man. I saw him at the JP McManus golf tournament in Limerick two years ago. Tiger Woods was there. So too was Tony McCoy, John Magnier and countless other celebrities and multi-millionaires.

I was following a group and I saw a strange looking guy with a beard and a cigar. He looked like he walked straight off the set of the Sopranos. It took me an age to find out who the hell he was. When I went home that night I checked him up.

He is worth $4 BILLION. I'd say he wasn't far off being worth more than every single person at the tournament put together.

He made all his money through plumbing fixtures of all things. I never knew there was so much money to be made from them.

He is the richest person that I'll ever see in my life. And also probably one of the coolest as well, as the picture below shows. He just strolled around the course, club in one hand and a cigar in the other. He probably made about 100,000 every hour while he was there.

Thankfully though he was absolutely cat at golf. Goes to show money can't buy you everything :P.

Jimmy Iovine

A map of New York City coded by rappers' origins. Pretty cool to see where everyone is from. Love the way it's only the Wu Tang Clan (minus GZA and ODB) who are on Staten Island. MC Serch must have been pretty lonely growing up miles from everyone else :P.

mufcboy1999

That's class ^^^. NY is really the meca of hip hop even the wests most famous rapper pac is a NY n*gga

What a roster and there was a few names left out. I'd love too see an LA and Southside one to really compare , also the Detroit scene is pretty decent , eminem, d12, obie, reks , Royce etc etc.

The west would obviously be the closet to rival the NY scene but tbh rapper v rapper I think they'll fall a bit short? Maybe ...

conor.hogan.2

There are loads of rappers from outside of NY, "the west", the "southside" and Detroit you just have to look.

NY is huge* and the birthplace of hip-hop so them having the most and the best makes a lot of sense.

*the city, mainly.

Oleg Luzhny

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

That's class ^^^. NY is really the meca of hip hop even the wests most famous rapper pac is a NY n*gga

What a roster and there was a few names left out. I'd love too see an LA and Southside one to really compare , also the Detroit scene is pretty decent , eminem, d12, obie, reks , Royce etc etc.

The west would obviously be the closet to rival the NY scene but tbh rapper v rapper I think they'll fall a bit short? Maybe ...

Yeah, they're some good rappers from Detroit alrite but Reks isn't one of them! He's from Lawrence, Massachusetts.

Jimmy Iovine

Anyone have any idea why Game said "I woke up out that coma 2001, 'bout the same time Dre dropped "2001"" at the start of Dreams? Surely he realised that that album was released in '99. Dre was an executive producer on it and all.

It's something that's bothered me for years. It rhymes nicely but it sounds stupid when you know about the other album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0q74jtV8s

conor.hogan.2

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Anyone have any idea why Game said "I woke up out that coma 2001, 'bout the same time Dre dropped "2001"" at the start of Dreams? Surely he realised that that album was released in '99. Dre was an executive producer on it and all.

It sounds better and still makes kind of makes sense?

"woke up from a coma around 2001, 2 years or so after that dre album called 2001…" does not have the same ring to it

It can come off as silly though I know what you mean, many many people have taken the piss out of it.

The bigger question is why did Dre release an album in 99 and call it 2001?

mufcboy1999

or maybe he was never in a coma like his brother said...

who knows but its more than a bit odd, 2 year time frame in fairness.

conor.hogan.2

We could all quote at least 1 line from every rapper that is stupid/wrong.

Or we could give them poetic license as I said "2 years or so after 2001" does not have the same ring to it.

mufcboy1999

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

We could all quote at least 1 line from every rapper that is stupid/wrong.

Or we could give them poetic license as I said "2 years or so later than 2001" does not have the same ring to it.

true but its just odd is all.

conor.hogan.2

Dre calling it 2001 is even odder tbh.

"I am the second dopest rapper from Compton you will ever hear, the other only dropped an album every seven years" - Game knows when Dre released his albums btw.

As I have said before he is not even in my top 10 current possibly 20 tbh, but that does not mean I do not like his music and I am still looking forward to his new album.

Bobby Baccala

Now that i don't like the game i struggle to find what it is people like about him? As fans what would you lads say you like about game, because i cant find anything special about him to be honest, average lyrics, nothing special about his flow, fairly repetitive, bad mixtapes and a not so great ear for beats. That's all just my opinion, but I'd be interested to see what you lads think of him.

conor.hogan.2

He is one of the few good rappers around, but yes just one of 100's nothing too special about him atm much like Snoop, Common and Eminem rappers tend to go stale after they release a few albums generally speaking.

Jimmy Iovine

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

It sounds better and still makes kind of makes sense?

"woke up from a coma around 2001, 2 years or so after that dre album called 2001…" does not have the same ring to it

It can come off as silly though I know what you mean, many many people have taken the piss out of it.

The bigger question is why did Dre release an album in 99 and call it 2001?

It does sound better, but it sounds stupid as well.

As for 2001, I think Dre wanted to call it The Chronic 2000 but Suge got there before him and released an album with the same title.

Dre wasn't best pleased. He couldn't really call it 1999 so he went for 2001. It's a great name imo. It kind of has a futuristic sense to it.

conor.hogan.2

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

It does sound better, but it sounds stupid as well.

Not really. Poetic license, plus a few tracks later he drops the line "every 7 years" about Dre and releasing albums I quoted above so it is not as if he did not know when it was released.

I know the legal reasons behind it but call it 99 or something else. They say "99.." several times in the album for example snoop loves saying it. It does have a futuristic sense I suppose.

Mr. Rager

2001: A Space Odyssey?

conor.hogan.2

Mr. Rager wrote: »

2001: A Space Odyssey?

An amazing film by an equally amazing producer.

mufcboy1999

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Dre calling it 2001 is even odder tbh.

"I am the second dopest rapper from Compton you will ever hear, the other only dropped an album every seven years" - Game knows when Dre released his albums btw.

ye it is, love to find out why tbh. Im not doubting games knowledge of dre's career either, he obviously grew up a big fan of dre and nwa. Just sounds stupid imo and makes me doubt he was ever in the coma like speculated.

Now that i don't like the game i struggle to find what it is people like about him? As fans what would you lads say you like about game, because i cant find anything special about him to be honest, average lyrics, nothing special about his flow, fairly repetitive, bad mixtapes and a not so great ear for beats. That's all just my opinion, but I'd be interested to see what you lads think of him.

He was the most high profile artist from the westcoast in years when he broke through with g unit and going against 50 at the time gave him a huge amount of attention more so than he would of got if he stayed with the group.

the documentary and doctor advocate are great albums, the doc being a certified classic imo. To be fair he has got an ear for beats too, he's been on a few banging beats down through the years, how we do, put you on the game, one blood etc. The red album was shocking though and lax not too much better but the 1st two are well worth a listen if you haven't done so yet but more than likely you have already.

as far as content , yes very repetitive lryics with the name dropping etc ,the habit of jacking other rappers flows and the reliance of ft's on just about all his songs is fairly annoying and im always critical of him over it. I still listen to his music as i do all of g unit's artists past and present , I followed the original g unit before they went to shady/aftermath so iv a spot for them all tbh despite the break up, thats my reason for listening to the game. I think he needs that g unit re-union he was crying out for too happen, it would benefit them all so much because when they were together they were huge despite game never actually featuring on a g unit album.