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conor.hogan.2 wrote: »Are g-unit still even releasing anything? Besides 50 obviously.
Game lost big time, but "seeing short term" is not the whole story. 50 expected Game to not be cool with people who he had no problem with that is where the beef started and it escalated big time.
As a group nope,there finished more than likely. really cant see another g unit album with just 50, banks and yayo... i could see a possible g unit label album with new artists though as 50 is currently re-building the label.
true , 50 was going at a good few. jada and joe because they ft'd on ja's new york song, he use to be signed by nas with brave hearts so their was history their and i think nas threw shots first at one of his concerts in queens.
you cant blame game for not wanting to take on his battles but thats 50, he came into the rap game with songs like how to rob going at the industry. He thrives on beef just like the game. If you remember game dissed jay z before his debut and jigga replied so 50 rang him to ask him to squash it, i guess he expected a favor in return.
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Jimmy Iovine wrote: »Anyone have any idea why Game said "I woke up out that coma 2001, 'bout the same time Dre dropped "2001"" at the start of Dreams? Surely he realised that that album was released in '99. Dre was an executive producer on it and all.
It's something that's bothered me for years. It rhymes nicely but it sounds stupid when you know about the other album.conor.hogan.2 wrote: »It sounds better and still makes kind of makes sense?
"woke up from a coma around 2001, 2 years or so after that dre album called 2001…" does not have the same ring to it
It can come off as silly though I know what you mean, many many people have taken the piss out of it.
The bigger question is why did Dre release an album in 99 and call it 2001?mufcboy1999 wrote: »or maybe he was never in a coma like his brother said...
who knows but its more than a bit odd, 2 year time frame in fairness.
8 years late with this observation, is it any wonder that every other thread in this forum turns into a Game v G-Unit debate? Everyone noticed the line when they first heard it and thought "But Dre didn't release it in 2001..". Game/Dre went with it because it sounded good, of course people can get pedantic over pointless, minuscule things like 3 words but at the end of the day they didn't give a flying **** so they kept the line.
And he was never in a coma like his brother said? His brother has said a lot of things, do you believe everything that he says? He was shot 5 times, I've seen the wounds up close. Is the thought of him being in a coma after being shot 5 times unbelievable?
Conor really hit the nail on the head, a better question would have been why did Dre call the album 2001 when it was released in November 1999? Of course people think it's a great name because Suge prevented him from using "2000" and 2001 sounded futuristic...to put it into perspective, if Game released an album in late 2012 and called it 2014 would it be a cool, futuristic name? The answer is no, the same people here that take every opportunity to piss and moan about him would be jumping down his throat. "Why's he calling it 2014, it doesn't make any sense, it's a ****e name, why's he still name dropping, why does he have x amount of features, why do people like him??"
I've avoided discussing Game in recent months because it's pointless and people just go around in circles arguing but the same people keep bringing him up again and again. You don't like him, you don't listen to him but yet you feel the need to keep talking about him, constantly.
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And he was never in a coma like his brother said? His brother has said a lot of things, do you believe everything that he says? He was shot 5 times, I've seen the wounds up close. Is the thought of him being in a coma after being shot 5 times unbelievable?
relax man theres no need get so defensive.
But in all honestly after watching a so called gangsta with a butterfly tattooed on his face on change of heart, it shouldn't be surprising that people have their doubts about the coma story. more than likely a story with added legs by the label to gain publicity, look at rick ross a fictional character created by the industry but obviously no where on that level but it does happen. Like i said though his own brother said he was never in a coma, im not saying it didnt happen, i just said i have my doubts is all.
We can talk about any rapper we like or dislike on the forum, a question was asked and to answer it I felt some of games past career was needed to be brought up. Just about every rapper gets there fair share of criticisms here by fans and neutral posters. The problem is like paddy highlighted a few posts ago that people come attached to certain artists refusing to accept anything negative said about them, we are all guilty of it in some ways. I could tell you right now that if someone came on here bashing 2pac, conor would defend him straight away aswell as the game, jimmy with chamiilonaire, yourself with the game , myself with 50 and lamar and maybe paddy with dmx.
but there's no need to get that defensive and wound up anytime someone bashes or says stuff that you might not like about game. I could tell you've been biting your tongue for a while as he's been on the end of a few negative comments and rightfully so man, he's just released a terrible album, his worst yet. I dont really think it was a game/gunit debate either , g unit was obviously brought up as it was the biggest part of his career with the documentary , the conversation stayed on topic , it just strayed a bit but was still pretty relevant to game. At the end of the day this is a hip hop gossip thread so if we cant have these type of conversations here, theres no where else.:)0 -
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He released RED 10 months ago, it's not a classic but it has a few nice tracks, fair enough you don't like it, some people do, get over it. I just think it's odd because Game is without question the most talked about rapper on this forum, by a huge margin. More than Pac, DMX, Lamar, Cole, etc. Really unusual considering most of the regular posters hate him. Same people don't like to listen to him but they love to talk about him. Same with Rick Ross, I swear it's like people have a passionate, deep hatred for the guy because he was a CO an now he's a successful rapper, some posts read like they're losing sleep over it.mufcboy1999 wrote: »relax man theres no need get so defensive. But in all honestly after watching a so called gangsta with a butterfly tattooed on his face on change of heart, it shouldn't be surprising that people have their doubts about the coma story. more than likely a story with added legs by the label to gain publicity, look at rick ross a fictional character created by the industry but obviously no where on that level but it does happen. Like i said though his own brother said he was never in a coma, im not saying it didnt happen, i just said i have my doubts is all.
We can talk about any rapper we like or dislike on the forum, a question was asked and to answer it I felt some of games past career was needed to be brought up. Just about every rapper gets there fair share of criticisms here by fans and neutral posters. The problem is like paddy highlighted a few posts ago that people come attached to certain artists refusing to accept anything negative said about them, we are all guilty of it in some ways. I could tell you right now that if someone came on here bashing 2pac, conor would defend him straight away aswell as the game, jimmy with chamiilonaire, yourself with the game , myself with 50 and lamar and maybe paddy with dmx.
but there's no need to get that defensive and wound up anytime someone bashes or says stuff that you might not like about game. I could tell you've been biting your tongue for a while as he's been on the end of a few negative comments and rightfully so man, he's just released a terrible album, his worst yet. I dont really think it was a game/gunit debate either , g unit was obviously brought up as it was the biggest part of his career with the documentary , the conversation stayed on topic , it just strayed a bit but was still pretty relevant to game. At the end of the day this is a hip hop gossip thread so if we cant have these type of conversations here, theres no where else.:)
Also find it odd that you're hugely skeptical and you struggle to believe anything about Game being shot but take everything you saw in the "Get Rich Or Die Tryin" movie as fact.
Didn't some people think the world was going to end in 2012? I think there was a movie about it. I could say "2014 is a great name because people thought the world was going to end in 2012, Game is really being clever with this 2014 title..." I could imagine the responses I'd get if I said something like that.Jimmy Iovine wrote: »There's a huge difference between Dre calling it 2001 and anyone else skipping on to 2014 nowadays. Back then the world was afraid of what would happen in the new millennium with the "Y2K bug" and the effects that it would have on the whole world.
The whole idea of the new millennium and years starting with "20" was a major deal. I know it was for me anyway. All everyone knew was the 1900s. "2001" may not be the greatest name for an album but the leap from 1999 to 2001 has a lot more significance than any other leap in years in my opinion.
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I'm playing through San Andreas for the first time in about 5 years and im not joking, it has the best song choice of any game i've ever played. Hip hop wise there's something for everyone. So far today I've heard Big Daddy Kane, Dre, Slick Rick, Ice Cube, Kid Frost, Cypress Hill, Tupac, Kool G Rap....
I'm not sure what the hip hop will be like in the new GTA. I can imagine a lot of young money stuff and probably some watch the throne. The Recipe by kendrick lamar would fit in to it nicely seeing as they're basing it in Cali again.
great game, my all time favorite. bought it on my xbox 360 a while back and have it saved to the hard drive. soundtrack was unreal , story was unreal , the ultimate hip hop/culture game? i think so. this game right here was a big part of my childhood
ye it will be interesting though to see what the new soundtrack will be like, the last gta had some kanye and wayne but was mostly NY rappers, busta,joe, nas, swiss beats etc also the classic hip hop channel was great.
they'll have to give this soundtrack a modernized feel though as its not set in the 90's, i expect some snoop, lamar, game etc with some other hip hop outside LA maybe WTT like you said. id expect another old skool hip hop channel too with your ice cubes etc.0 -
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You're saying you're skeptical if he was in a coma or whatever, I'm saying he was shot 5 times, his bullet wounds are clearly visible in person, no question about the label making up stories or photoshop used. Give the pointless skepticism a rest.I mean did you hear yourself in your last post he's got 5 bullet wounds iv seen them up close bla bla.. fair enough you were up on stage with him but did you actually stop and count all 5 wounds right in the middle of a concert ?
I've barely mentioned Game here since RED dropped, posted a couple of his music videos and talked a bit about his most recent mixtape (which I hated) and that's it. My post history is there for everyone to see. I'm not posting about him, it's other people and I generally don't get into it because we always end up talking about how he was on Change of Heart, how 50 saved him from being shelved, his butterfly tattoo blah blah blah blahyour fascination with him comes across to me as that of someone on a stan level, a total fanboy. The fact you bite the head of anyone who criticizes his music is a clear indication. In all honestly the reason why he's one of the most talked about artists here is because you kept that red album thread going for what 2 or 3 years? reacting to anything negative said about him just like you are at this very moment. Jimmy asked a simple interesting question about a few lryics and he gets get greeted with hostility and backlash as if he said something totally outrageous.
Your posts suggest otherwise. Yeah you like his first 2 albums but these days you jump down the guys throat at every single opportunity. It's not the odd time, it's constant. It's one thing to not like a persons music, fine, don't listen to it. It's another thing when you constantly bitch and moan and troll about his music, his past, points in his career - basically every little thing he does. You know yourself what you do. And it's not just on Boards.For the last time I dont hate the game. Just because i criticize clear flaws in his music doesn't mean I do
Random comment left on a YouTube video.
I'm sure there's plenty more on other videos/websites/forums. I don't like Flo Rida so naturally I don't talk about the guy constantly on hip hop forums and leave comments about him on his YouTube videos. You're the opposite with Game. Get off the guys dick, really.
How is this relevant to anything? The Change of Heart, butterfly tattoo issues clearly bother you but they really aren't relevant to a single thing. All of this skepticism about his criminal record...what the **** has that got to do with anything we're talking about?look you said you've seen the bullet wounds all 5 , so who am i too argue. honestly though i never said i didn't believe he was shot , i said i was skeptical about his past life i.e the coma story. The whole change of heart tv show does him no favors at all, he looked right soft and tbh not very gangsta like he claimed, his criminal record completely clean before he came a rapper, everyone from his own block saying he's trying to be his brother by rapping about his life etc. it goes on and on the latter part im not going to reply to as its not relevant and will only go in one direction.0 -
You're saying you're skeptical if he was in a coma or whatever, I'm saying he was shot 5 times, his bullet wounds are clearly visible in person, no question about the label making up stories or photoshop used. Give the pointless skepticism a rest.
yes skeptical of the coma, as were a lot of people were around the time he came on the scene. His own brother stating it obviously didn't help matters. As far as the bullet wounds you'v said the 5 are clearly visible in person but didnt he get shot in the ankle? he was wearing pants in dublin man i doubt you seen them all, infact in a concert situation where everyone is buzzing in poor lighting i severely doubt you copped them, be honest. Again though I do believe he got shot 5 times , never said he didnt.I've barely mentioned Game here since RED dropped, posted a couple of his music videos and talked a bit about his most recent mixtape (which I hated) and that's it. My post history is there for everyone to see. I'm not posting about him, it's other people and I generally don't get into it because we always end up talking about how he was on Change of Heart, how 50 saved him from being shelved, his butterfly tattoo blah blah blah blah
No wonder you didn't mention him, he's fell of the face of the planet after that album and those disastrous attempts of mixtapes of late. The reason i brought up change of heart was because it was relevant to my skepticism of the coma story, like many rappers involved in beef with the game have said what gangstas you know with a butterfly tattooed on his face on a dating show? wasnt he meant to be out slanging, drive bys etc why did he try his best to cover up the butter fly? what was there to be ashamed of.. past life as a stripper maybe, his mother owned a strip club after all.
These are all more questions that could be raised about how sincere the games actual story is. you asked me do i believe everything games brother says, i ask you do you believe everything game says? because the above are all topics that could of been raised to aid the coma story with actual evidence backing them up.
i wouldn't even stoop so low to go back and quote some of your posts, to follow me around on youtube is a bit extreme tbh mate. Here's the link to my new youtube channel (lost password for that account) with hip hop songs i like, feel free to look , i bet you'll be surprised how much of the game is actually in it. I might aswell give you my facebook, twitter, name & address while im at it too ye ?Your posts suggest otherwise. Yeah you like his first 2 albums but these days you jump down the guys throat at every single opportunity. It's not the odd time, it's constant. It's one thing to not like a persons music, fine, don't listen to it. It's another thing when you constantly bitch and moan and troll about his music, his past, points in his career - basically every little thing he does. You know yourself what you do. And it's not just on Boards.
Random comment left on a YouTube video.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=FLzraBZ7VNG2C_3tdwrWbLmA&feature=plcp
the reason i posted that was because of his reactions to 50s sales on bisd where he mocked him, what goes around comes around . Im a fan, when the goings good il give praise when its bad and i feel someone deserves it il bash them and say what evers on my mind. iv posted similiar content on 50s videos, 50 threads here where i bashed his work so its not trolling or been on the guys d*ck, thats just the kind of fan I am, i can be harsh.
look at my opinion on lamars recipe before it grew on me...the good comes with the bad, im not going to pussy foot around certain artists here or anywhere just because it might upset so and so. Im entitled to talk about any rapper i like here, look at drake and young money, odd future, 50, they constantly get bashed too game is no different.How is this relevant to anything? The Change of Heart, butterfly tattoo issues clearly bother you but they really aren't relevant to a single thing. All of this skepticism about his criminal record...what the **** has that got to do with anything we're talking about
like i said i have my doubts about the coma story everything else is an example of his shady past. His nemesis 50 was locked up before rap , he's got the rap sheet , the record, the street beef and all the proof but whats game life before rap... the shooting ye but thats as common as f*ck in america and change of heart are the only things he has proof of. Most drug dealers, shooters or what ever he claims to be have records, history with the police that's my point. He obviously wasn't as active/heavy in the streets as he makes out in his music thats all im saying, you cant blame people for being skeptical.
before rap, you do the math.
for the record because i know you dont belive me. like i said mate if i wasnt a fan i wouldnt of bought his music.:)
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Jimmy Iovine wrote: »Remind me never to post about the Game again
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There's a biography worth of information in the last 2 pages alone thanks to you 0 -
Jimmy Iovine wrote: »Remind me never to post about the Game again.
Or 50....
Being an actual gangster is not cool kids.0 -
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It's comical though from me and prettyboy as its going back and forth for years
I do feel people should be allowed discuss anyone without having their heads bite of though, a simple question about a few lryics and why do people like him and People got defensive and ratty straight away ..0 -
For **** sake when did I say I examined his body and counted 5 wounds? Don't put words in my mouth, I saw wounds on his torso, they were very visible. I didn't count them on the night, never said I didAs far as the bullet wounds you'v said the 5 are clearly visible in person but didnt he get shot in the ankle? he was wearing pants in dublin man i doubt you seen them all, infact in a concert situation where everyone is buzzing in poor lighting i severely doubt you copped them, be honest. Again though I do believe he got shot 5 times , never said he didnt.
I believe more or less nothing of what any rapper says they did, what they sold, how much money they have and how many bitches they've ****ed. Not Game (stripper that was on a dating show), 50 (rat/police informant, addicted to steroids), Pac (ballerina turned rapist) etc. The fact that you do believe everything you hear certain rappers say is ridiculous. You're more concerned with the rappers pasts and personal lives than you are with their music. It's pretty desperate but I suppose you did start this "Hip hop gossip" thread so I shouldn't be surprised.These are all more questions that could be raised about how sincere the games actual story is. you asked me do i believe everything games brother says, i ask you do you believe everything game says? because the above are all topics that could of been raised to aid the coma story with actual evidence backing them up.
No ones following you around, I was looking at a certain video on YouTube a while back and glancing through the comments, I see another YouTube user mention your name. There you are trolling, same as you're doing here. You can't search the comments you've made through your YouTube profile, I literally came across it by chance. You keep telling us you're just giving fair criticism when you're blatantly trolling, it's there for everyone to see, you were caught out.i wouldn't even stoop so low to go back and quote some of your posts, to follow me around on youtube is a bit extreme tbh mate. Here's the link to my new youtube channel (lost password for that account) with hip hop songs i like, feel free to look , i bet you'll be surprised how much of the game is actually in it. I might aswell give you my facebook, twitter, name & address while im at it too ye ?0 -
Right I've another lyrics question. This time it's about Kanye. At around 1:40 in "Dark Fantasy" he says the following: "I'm just a Chi-town n***a with a nice flow". At least that's what I think he says. For a while I thought he was saying "with a Nas flow". Even Kanye wouldn't think so highly of himself as to say that.
Anyone else have any opinions? Personally, I think he says 'nice' but bends the sound of the word so that it could be mistaken for 'Nas'.
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Jimmy Iovine wrote: »Right I've another lyrics question. This time it's about Kanye. At around 1:40 in "Dark Fantasy" he says the following: "I'm just a Chi-town n***a with a nice flow". At least that's what I think he says. For a while I thought he was saying "with a Nas flow". Even Kanye wouldn't think so highly of himself as to say that.
Anyone else have any opinions? Personally, I think he says 'nice' but bends the sound of the word so that it could be mistaken for 'Nas'.
That's nothing. When I first heard this:
Right around the 3:41 mark, Drake says "I'm feeling like Nas: who am I to disagree?" First I thought he's comparing himself to Nas, but on further look he's actually just quoting a Nas line from Street Dreams.0 -
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Jimmy Iovine wrote: »Supposedly the members of Wu Tang Clan might be playing themselves in the up-coming biopic on ODB. GZA has ruled himself out already though. Hopefully the rest of them do it. It's based on a period of ODB's life in the early 00's so they wouldn't look too old playing themselves.
GZA is easily my favourite member,
thought he would be good at acting, well fúck it, it's not really acting, he's playing himself. He was cool in coffee and cigarettes along with rza and Bill Murray.
It would just be great to have all the members in for legacy, a really authentic project.0 -
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Was watching the video for Common's "The People" when I seen this comment from our very own:
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Lol forgot all about that. It's basically a pisstake aimed at the morons that go around youtube writing:
"If you want to make a difference to my life please thumbs up this comment, i am a (insert age) rapper from (insert rich white suburb) please stop by my channel and share my videos etc etc"
I must see about 10 of them comments daily.
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Lol forgot all about that. It's basically a pisstake aimed at the morons that go around youtube writing:
"If you want to make a difference to my life please thumbs up this comment, i am a (insert age) rapper from (insert rich white suburb) please stop by my channel and share my videos etc etc"
I must see about 10 of them comments daily.
Nice to see i have the top comment anyway
Haha that's brilliant. Fair play with the top comment.
My dad had a top comment on a video once. He set up an account to post a reply to a video. He got a good bit of abuse over it from people.0 -
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little freestyle from em for a ice t documentary called something from nothing (the art of rap)
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